Candida raw food diet [Archive]

Nadia

07-30-2008, 03:11 PM

Hi I have been raw on and off but was committed to be 100% raw. I kept feeling tired all the time among other things and was told that I was not absorbing the nutrients. I was told by the Doctor that I had a taurine difficency so I was given shots with B12 B complex and taurine. After three weeks I am feeling a bit better. Then my candida flared up but I read a book that has anti candida diet and it makes it quite difficult to remain raw and follow it.

All nuts are prohibited except for almonds sunflower and pumpkin seeds, but I dnt particularly like these. All fruits except cranberries, currants and pomegranat. All sweetners prohibited except steevia, which I hate.

Now if I cant have the fruits wat do you reccommend for breakfast and also no grains apart from quinoa, millet amarath and buckwheat. I live in the carribbean and these are rare and very expensive.

I would like to know, If anyone has overcome candida on this diet and what did you do and eat. I am very frustrated as I preferto eat raw. I use to do raw plantains, raw sweet potaoes, bananas nut now what can I have now. Coconut water is also prohibited.

Could you give me some advise.
I also am using herb called pau d'arco, probiotics and spirulina.

Can any one help
Thanks

Raw Yogini

07-30-2008, 03:18 PM

I would suggest "Rainbow Green Live-Food Cuisine" by Gabriel Cousens.

RawHeaven

07-30-2008, 07:05 PM

I ditto the above ^

and Victoria Boutenko's Green for Life

Who's prohibiting you from eating certain foods is what I'm not clear on?

I had candida before I went raw and I believe it's completely eradicated from my system now...a year later.

I eat EVERYTHING raw and never restricted myself, however I did listen to my body and when it 'craved' a particular food during my healing process (which is still taking place) I ate that.

I do remember going through a 3 month period where I only wanted green juice and I didn't eat any fruit or raw sweets of any kind. I also used oil of oregano in my green smoothies during that time period. I still take it easy with citrus and sweet fruits. I much rather non sweet fruits like cucumber, tomatoes and peppers.

I think juice & water fasting, intuitive eating and supplementing with yeast busting foods (like oil of oregano, garlic and grapefruit seed extract) helped me kick candida out of my system, among other things. :)

cherries

07-30-2008, 08:22 PM

I've never battled candida, but here is what I read in Fit For Life II about candida and fruit:

"I suffer from Candida, so how can I eat fruit?

This is not a subject that is easily covered in one short paragraph. However, one aspect of Candida is particularly important to understand: If you have the Candida yeast organism in your body, and almost everyone has, then be careful of fruit or anything else that can ferment in the body. THE ONLY WAY FRUIT CAN AGREVATE A CANDIDA INFECTION IS IF IT IS EATEN INCORRECTLY.

When fresh fruit is eaten alone and on an empty stomach, it will not ferment! This is the key. When you eat cooked fruit or eat fruit with other foods, it spoils and ferments in the stomach. The Candida yeats proliferates on fermentable foods - carbohydrates. By consuming only fresh fruit when the stomach is entirely empty, there is no possibility of fermentation from bacteria or yeast.

Also, it is exceeedingly important for those with Candida to be very strict with food combining. All carbohydrates will ferment if eaten with proteins or if cooked. If you properly combine your foods, eat fresh fruits correctly, and avoid fermented foods (alchohol, vinegar, miso, yogurt) your Candida problem will become a thing of the past."

Clare

07-30-2008, 08:47 PM

I no longer believe all those strict candida diets do anything. I did a very strict low carb one for over a year with antifungals and little relief. I started raw for Lent figuring that if I was miserable, I could offer it up :-) I ate whatever I wanted raw, way too much food, but in less than a month my symptoms were almost all gone. I also lost ten pounds and now weigh what I weighed at age 16. btw plenty of sweet fruit - it made raw a joy rather than a sacrifice though. Then I felt led to do a Master Cleanse but with a big greens/carrot/watermelon juice every day for a week. Since then I have wanted less fat but still enjoy some in the evenings (usually seeds or some nuts since cheaper than avocados at the moment). I felt totally free, however a few days ago I ate some popcorn two nights in a row (my first lapses) and I have itchy ears and some anxiety every since. I am cleaning out with lots of fruit.

My point is to agree with the above responses. You can figure this out and don't need to take one yeast experts advice since they all disagree anyway. Even the raw experts. I have heard low sugars, low fats, and Alissa's (and Jinjee's) opinion is to go 100% raw and your body will take it from there.

Dimond

07-31-2008, 06:52 AM

I no longer believe all those strict candida diets do anything. I agree. I suffered for years, with very little working other than sometimes probiotics. It's funny how restrictive that diet is & how deprived you feel as I attempted it but never ever could make it work. Yet on 100% raw, I didn't feel that way at all. The only thing I would suggest is just less of the very sweet fruits & dried fruits. But really you could probably get away with all raw & no other restrictions. Just make sure to continue with a good quality, dairy-free probiotic.

lizzyrose

07-31-2008, 07:02 AM

This may be a really dumb question, but I swear that every chart I look at regarding glycemic index has a different list... what do you define as "sweet fruits" that should be avoided if someone is worried about sugar/candida?

Nadia

07-31-2008, 09:34 AM

Thanks so much guys.

I will definitely take your advice. I tell you I feel miserable. I will definitely add green more greens to my diet and see what happens.

Nadia

Vaclare79

07-31-2008, 09:58 AM

What exactly is candida anyways? Is that the bacterial vaginosis or fungus ?

RawHeaven

07-31-2008, 10:19 AM

What exactly is candida anyways? Is that the bacterial vaginosis or fungus ?

It's yeast. Causes vaginal yeast infections, can be in the intestines etc. I found a lot of info on the web about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(genus)

This may be too much information, but when I was releasing it and detoxing there would be white blobs of yeast in my eliminations. It was candida coming out of my colon. :eek: When it takes over the body and gets in your organs is when it can get very serious and of course unpleasant.

This may be a really dumb question, but I swear that every chart I look at regarding glycemic index has a different list... what do you define as "sweet fruits" that should be avoided if someone is worried about sugar/candida?

Not a dumb question. I don't follow those charts too much anymore because they seem inconsistent. I know that strawberries and most citrus fruits except lemons do something weird with my blood sugar levels. I'm still healing something I believe and I just listen to my body with regard to which fruits cause a reaction. Sweet fruits for me are citrus and anything that tastes really sweet to me. Actually I guess I really don't know exactly and just whatever is non-sweet I just stick with that and the rest I consider sweet. lol.

RawHeaven

07-31-2008, 10:25 AM

Thanks so much guys.

I will definitely take your advice. I tell you I feel miserable. I will definitely add green more greens to my diet and see what happens.

Nadia

Good luck Nadia. I feel for you because it can make you feel ultra miserable. Just keep plugging away with the greens. If you can get yourself some grapefruit seed extract and put a few drops in a glass of water, it really works!

Dimond

07-31-2008, 10:41 AM

High sugar fruits.

Vaclare79

07-31-2008, 12:15 PM

It's yeast. Causes vaginal yeast infections, can be in the intestines etc. I found a lot of info on the web about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(genus)

This may be too much information, but when I was releasing it and detoxing there would be white blobs of yeast in my eliminations. It was candida coming out of my colon. :eek: When it takes over the body and gets in your organs is when it can get very serious and of course unpleasant.

Not a dumb question. I don't follow those charts too much anymore because they seem inconsistent. I know that strawberries and most citrus fruits except lemons do something weird with my blood sugar levels. I'm still healing something I believe and I just listen to my body with regard to which fruits cause a reaction. Sweet fruits for me are citrus and anything that tastes really sweet to me. Actually I guess I really don't know exactly and just whatever is non-sweet I just stick with that and the rest I consider sweet. lol.

Nah, it's not too much information. I used to get BVaginosis all the time.. Supposedly caused by a yeast bacteria.. Would take antibiotic Flagyl for it all the time and it'd come back so I guess I'm toxic too. Did you go on the lemonade/MC diet? Or, was it just eating raw made you get rid of it ? Thanks for the article but it didn't come up oh well I'll look it up later today to see.

RawHeaven

07-31-2008, 05:48 PM

Nah, it's not too much information. I used to get BVaginosis all the time.. Supposedly caused by a yeast bacteria.. Would take antibiotic Flagyl for it all the time and it'd come back so I guess I'm toxic too. Did you go on the lemonade/MC diet? Or, was it just eating raw made you get rid of it ? Thanks for the article but it didn't come up oh well I'll look it up later today to see.

The MC really helped begin the process of cleansing/healing my colon, liver and other organs, but eating raw 100% really was the kicker for me. I actually noticed the white blobs about 6 months after I was raw 100%. One evening I put some grapefruit seed extract oil in some water before going to bed as my detox was intense; my stomach was bothering me. I woke up to white yeasty poop! Gross, but it was nice getting rid of that stuff, especially since I had no idea it was in there. :eek: I'd say the next 4-5 eliminations in 2 days yielded a lot of it. I just kept drinking green juices, water and swallowing chopped garlic clove pills. I felt GREAT a week later! Woo - just amazing. I think that was the last of the candida monster in my body.

Vaclare79

08-01-2008, 12:24 AM

Wow.. that is truly amazing that just FOOD will do that!! I'm going to have to start drinking more green smoothies to fix my body.

rawbutterfly

08-01-2008, 09:24 AM

Cherries- Thanks for that info. I had horrible Candida before raw and after a few months it was gone completely. Despite what I had heard, I did not restrict myself. I ate all fruit nuts etc. But I did eat simply and mono, so your info explains why that worked for me!

Raw Heaven- Amazing experience. I have heard so much great stuff about GSE. I need to go get some to see what it does for me.

SweetTangerine

08-11-2008, 09:27 AM

I have also been battling Candida overgrowth for years. I have made some progress in the past few months but over past few weeks I have been slipping a bit. I am not 100% raw at the moment but am seriously considering making the transition. I noticed that it was mentioned that low glycemic fruit is exceptable if eaten alone and on an empty stomach. How long after eating would one's stomach generally be considered as empty? Also would smoothies including fruit be to complex for my system to handle at this point in time?

domestic goddess

08-12-2008, 07:37 AM

I did alot of research around this last year when I was told I had Candidia. I 3rd (or 4th) Gabriel Cousin's book...though I didn't really follow it myself. The info is great. Staying away from 'moldy' nuts, fruits, mushrooms is a given. The thing that made the most sense to me was the whole sugar/Candidia comination. Candidia, like all yeast, needs sugar to grow. SUGAR, like table sugar, etc. Thing is, if your body has Candidia, it cannot differentiate between fruit sugar and white sugar if you are consuming both. I stopped all white sugar (I had a bit of an addiction before going raw :eek: ) and did some of the herbs that supposedly helped eliminate the yeast. I was careful about fruit for a while, but really missed and craved it so I ate it. I eat LOTS of fruit now. No white sugar though :) I also only use raw agave as a sweatener, no maple syrup or even raw honey because it acts like white sugar in your body. When I was still using those products, even sparingly, I would get an 'invisible rash' and it would drive me crazy! No sugar, no rash. :D

Just my experience :D

RawHeaven

08-12-2008, 11:00 AM

This is wonderful everyone who's had success clearing candida. I personally have to still watch it though. For me I notice if I combine nuts and fruit, I feel out of sorts. When I eat high raw, I feel great. My body prefers less overt fat these days, but honestly sometimes I don't listen.

Domestic Goddess, I think you're right on...I also think it feeds off of fats when they're fermenting in the gut with the sugars. I think it's about attaining balance. This seemed to be what worked for me. Oh I'm loving the fruits right now! It feels good to be free of it.

tammay

08-19-2008, 04:09 PM

What an interesting thread! I never had an interest in candida until I read a book on stomach health and it mentioned the symptoms. I realized I had many of them. I did several online extensive questionnaires and the spit test twice and all point to a high possability that my symptoms are candida related. So now I'm looking into it.

I've been doing a little research on an anti-candida diet but I've been 100% raw (or nearly - never can tell with those dried fruit :( ) for 6 days so I wanted to see what this forum had to say about it. I'm glad I did! It sounds like the anti-candida diet is very restricting and not particularly effective for some.

I do eat quite a bit of fruit but try to stick with low sugar. I'm eating less nuts and dried fruit, though, and I notice that I don't have sugar cravings (something that's never happened when I tried going raw before) and my anxiety is way down. I also noticed that apart from a small sinus headachy feeling in the mornings, I don't have headaches. I still do have pretty bad rashes on my thighs and bikini line, though, but I'm guessing that it's going to take more than 6 days to clear that up :D.

From what I've read so far on this board, my best bet is to continue with what I'm doing, maybe try to keep more to low-sugar fruits and add more greens if I can, and see what happens.

Tam

Jenifae

09-21-2008, 01:12 AM

What about ACV? Does that exasberate the conditions or is okay. I read vinegar isn't good for candida.
I am pretty sure that is what is and has been going on with me for sometime now. Fruit seems to be really affecting me. Everytime I eat fruit I bloat severely and my stomack starts girggling and grumbling and like squirshing...........It's a weird sound ............ kinda freaky. Makes me realize I better do something sooner not later.

mongodelight

09-23-2008, 03:49 PM

Its my 10TH day 100% and my candida makes me crazy. I ve had heavy symthoms allready last winter. The depression, my little injuries, the low energy all detoxing together doesnt bother me that much like the horrible itching.
The candida spreaded all over my body and now it comes out of my skin.

And its itching soooo terrible. I would prefer a serious pain. It makes u running up the walls when u know u cant grate because it makes it worse.

And i also cant stop eating fruits! I need some fruits.

I dont know how to make my green juice sweet without honey or sweet fruits.

Its not easy. But tommorrow i am going to buy all these vegetablefruits like cuhcumber to prepare my meals and i am going to have just fruit in one meal.

So know i am feeling better. Itching is the most cruel thing ever. I would prefer to be extremly depressed the time the itching comes.

Jenifae

09-23-2008, 05:28 PM

I get that itchy stuff especially after I have coffee. I have noticed that I am now getting it when I eat sugary stuff and even fruit. I am on Day 2 of Candida diet ......... i did slip on a goraw chocolate nugget. I think that cacao would be okay if sweetened with stevia only - this had agave and my stomach started girggling - squirshing. :eek:

Jenifae

09-24-2008, 12:14 AM

I found this link and thought I'd share it. I havent' tried it yet. Think I will try to remember for tomorrow morning.
http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html

mongodelight

09-24-2008, 11:38 AM

@jenifae: you should get as much sunlight everywhere on your skin as possible. David Wolfe said in one of his youtube videos that its the best thing you can do because mushrooms cant grow in sunlight. I want to get sunlight so badly but the wheater here is horrible. I discovered that i enjoy sunlight to the endth degree now(did i spelled it right?) Its so fun to lay down in the sun and enjoy. As a Sad-eater i mostly hated sunlight so much:D

I wont stay away from fruits. I am 100% for life and that means i dont need any cures anymore. I dont want to fast at the moment, i dont want to do a diet. I am still in progress of reverseing the association of cooked = food. The progress is finished about circa 75%(Allen Carrs method, he said it works on every drug and i found out its true:D)

All the shit that happens to me dissappear when i am walking through a grocery store while knowing that i dont have to eat this deadly crap devils poison anymore. Its the deepest joy you can feel. Like a livelong prisoner that escaped from prison. Its so sad that people still use the willpower method that doesnt work. Willpower works 0%. Its nonsense. But Allen Carrs method works 100% if u re determined and do it like he has written it down.

The willpower method works only for a short time. In the longterm the subconscious always wins against willpower. Besides its not worth to live 100% raw with the willpower method. My experience is that its more fun to live with benching crap when staying 100% on the willpower method.

So if u needed this advice, you know what to do. Get the book of Allen Carr(nonsmoker..) and use his method 100%. You will get 100% success, if u use it 100% (you must be really determined too)

I just can offer it over and over again. The whole idea of breaking addictions as nonsense, everybody telling its hard but if u re using the right method its very easy. Come on, go raw:)

Jenifae

09-25-2008, 12:32 AM

mongodelight,

I read that too in David Wolfe's book. I have to be careful with sun because, I'm fair skinned and i used to lay out and try to tan all the time (interesting, huh - maybe, I intuitively knew I needed because, I do so love the sun) and want to be careful.

When I first went Raw I needed all the fruit and Raw deserts I could get my hands on in order to be and maintain Raw. I feel that by doing this however it has triggered my candida to excel. I've been Raw since, March and am diffently more able to follow this regime. No way could I have even thought about it even a week ago.

I agree with you about the willpower thing. It really works against me. I have to reach a point where I feel like "Oh this is what I want to do, now". Everything is a process in life. Go with the flow and dont' resist and life well be so much more pleasant and even fun :)

Thanks for sharing.

kristinseto

09-28-2008, 04:33 PM

I never had any signs or symtopms of candida until I went 90% raw. This was only a few weeks back. Now I have a terrible rash nearly all over my body and it itches like crazy.
Does anyone know why this would come out now? I have always eaten a good amount of fruit, along with my SAD diet, but I have never had a rash and itch like this :(
Oh, I did the spit test and it camp positive right away for candida.

RawHeaven

09-28-2008, 10:47 PM

kristinseto

09-28-2008, 10:54 PM

Kristen you could simply be detoxing as your body heals. Sometimes eating raw foods triggers retracing. The skin is the largest eliminatory organ so it makes sense that it's releasing something as your system becomes cleaner. It happens to many of us, not necessarily this symptoms, but many others. Headaches, sore throat, skin eruptions, rashes, irritability you name it. Hang in there and simply keeping eating raw + drink plenty of water.

Thank you RawHeaven. Water is what my body NEEDS all the time. I drink glass after glass after glass. Then I eat the ice (my favorite part! I know, I know, it's bad for your teeth). I have been eating raw, but I need to eat more. Nuts are not agreeing with me. I am nursing my babe full time so I need to get a certain amount of food into my system. I haven't eaten much at all this weekend, really, it is so surprising bc since my dd was born I have been SOoooooooooooo hungry all the time and I thought it was the nursing. I still have a good milk supply, but I don't want to eat too little for much longer.
I just drank a glass of water with 5 drops of GSE so I will see if anything happens.
Thanks!!

Kristin

Conscious Midwife

09-28-2008, 10:57 PM

... however a few days ago I ate some popcorn two nights in a row (my first lapses) and I have itchy ears and some anxiety every since.

Stove popped with no topping or microwave popcorn?

Just curious. Nuked popcorn use to leave an odd film( fake butte I guess) on my tongue and teeth, and left the roof of my mouth feeling weird for upto 2 days.

Haven't nuked popcorn all year. But I occassionally enjoy stove popped, in EVOO with nutritional yeast mfor flavor.

jules88

10-09-2008, 01:48 PM

Maybe this already covered in the above text, but I couldn't seem to find it. If one is not supposed to eat fruit and veggies at the same time. What do you all do about your GS?? I need at least a banana in mine or I can't choke it down!! Would strawberries and agave and greens be a better combo? I need my fruit or I don't think I can stay raw. I can eat mono fruit meals without a problem, but with the GS I need at least a banana. What is everyones opinion?

Jenifae

10-09-2008, 05:57 PM