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bicb85
07-30-2008, 12:37 AM
Hello everyone,

This is my first post. I recieved Alissa's book and DVD in the mail about a week ago- I have read it all and I am so excited to start eating raw!

I am posting because I need help and have not had any luck with doctors. My father is currently experiencing some pretty serious health problems. He has inflammation of his muscles and poor blood circulation to his extremeties. Its a very long story, but the doctors he has seen dont seem to be 100% sure of what is happening. His fingers actually turned black and the doctors wanted to amputate them. He refused the surgery and there has been some improvement since them. He is complaining about pain in his foot and I am so worried that it will start there too. I am wondering if raw food would be able to help him? Does anyone have any ideas?

My dad doesnt eat raw now (he eats fairly healthy food, but its ALWAYS cooked). If this is something that could help him, then I am sure I could convince him to try it- even if only for a month or so.

Any ideas and/or advice would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to posting here more often as I begin my own raw journey!!!

Steph

StarFire
07-30-2008, 02:47 AM
Aloha Steph... well... I'm not a dr - so I cannot offer medical advice ~ but i do know that eating Live foods can't hurt... I know people that have been cured of diabetis, thyroid problems, MS, autism in children has been almost completely healed, the list goes on and on... so -- I'm sure if you helped your father to get started on living on Live Foods... it will greatly benefit his health!

also... if he can get some exercise -- get his circulation going - that might be a benefit... even if he is just sitting in a chair and moving his arms or legs the best he can.

He must be an AMAZING person ~ to stand so strong and believe he can heal without the surgeries and amputations.... that is beautiful...

and blessings to you to - for being there to help him thru this time.... that's awesome...

I look forward to following your journey.... Alissa's book changed my life quite drastically - and I will always be so grateful!! Good luck and enjoy the ride!!

RAWk on! :D

rawstrength
07-30-2008, 03:26 AM
Lend your Father Alissa's book and DVDs.
I'm wishing you and him all the best!

Veganforlife
07-30-2008, 09:16 AM
Green Smoothies

Aleesha Sattva
07-30-2008, 09:25 AM
i agree... get some green smoothies into him. it's the most nutrition for your buck!

tanishamarshall
07-30-2008, 09:41 AM
I would like to believe raw food could help... of course most of us are not doctors so he might want to eat raw (If he want) and try to work with the doctors, I think it really depends on his belief. If he believes in raw I bet it could work for him.

I believe raw could help me and it did.

Do you think he would want to eat raw?

Coconutcutie
07-30-2008, 09:49 AM
Any chance that your father was on antibiotics somewhat recently? If so what type?

bicb85
07-30-2008, 10:11 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies,

I think he would be open to eating more raw foods, but it would be a challenge to get him to go 100%. I have decided that I will just start making raw meals for him and try to get him as close to 100% as possible (and me as well!). Starting each day with a green smoothie is a great idea- does anyone have any good recipes?

Coconutcutie- He has been on so many medications in the last few months. Before all of this started (almost 4 months ago), he didnt take any medication. Now he is taking about 10 a day, although he is seeing the doctor in a couple of weeks about reducing that. He has been on antibiotics, but I dont know which one(s). I am sure I can find out thought... why do you ask?


Thanks again everyone. I look forward to chatting more with you all!:)

Steph

michigan roman
07-30-2008, 11:28 PM
JUICE FEASTING IS MY THOUGHT , LINK =

www.juicefeasting.com ..

* pineapple helps in circulation , and makes a delicious raw juice .

* he / you can start a profile page at the juicefeasting site to get in tune with others for support / info . theres alot of pages / info at the site and its worth the time to look over imo . btw , they juice with blenders and strain pulp out as opposed to using juicers . so its simple to start without buying a juicer .

Coconutcutie
07-31-2008, 12:31 AM
Thanks everyone for your replies,

I think he would be open to eating more raw foods, but it would be a challenge to get him to go 100%. I have decided that I will just start making raw meals for him and try to get him as close to 100% as possible (and me as well!). Starting each day with a green smoothie is a great idea- does anyone have any good recipes?

Coconutcutie- He has been on so many medications in the last few months. Before all of this started (almost 4 months ago), he didnt take any medication. Now he is taking about 10 a day, although he is seeing the doctor in a couple of weeks about reducing that. He has been on antibiotics, but I dont know which one(s). I am sure I can find out thought... why do you ask?


Thanks again everyone. I look forward to chatting more with you all!:)

Steph

I ask because I and many others have had similar symptoms after taking a certain class of antibiotics. Check out the second link in my signature if you want to read more. Most people do not make the connection between the onset of these "mysterious" symptoms and having taken the drugs, as symptoms can occur during the course of treatment but often they develop after the treatment is stopped. Most doctors will not acknowledge the link between the drug and the symptoms either and bounce us from specialist to specialist trying to find out what's wrong (most tests come back normal/negative), but those of us suffering are full aware of what is going on and the symptoms are listed as ADR's in the PDR. For me the worst of my symptoms began 48 hrs. after stopping the antibiotic and I still have many disturbing symptoms 10 months later with new ones appearing occasionally, so new symptoms can and do develop once the drug is discontinued. I'm not saying this is the issue, but it caught my eye and is worth looking into. The antibiotics in question are Cipro, Levaquin, Avelox, Tequin, etc. or basically anything ending with "floxacin".

bicb85
08-01-2008, 01:23 AM
Coconut Cutie- That is so scary... I never would have thought of that. Its so disappointing because doctors are supposed to be professionals who help people- im not saying that doctors dont help people in many situations, but this whole experience with my father has made me lose A LOT of faith in them. I know that my dad was on levoquin, but im not sure if he has been on any others. What can be done to get all of the drugs out of the system? You said you still have new symptoms- isnt there any way to completely clean your body out from the drugs?

Michigan Roman- Wow, juice feasting sounds great. My only concern is making sure my dad gets enough protein (he really needs it right now to build up his muscle strength). Do you think that he could receive adequate protein from a juice feast?

Steph

michigan roman
08-01-2008, 06:26 AM
for protein could take nuts / seeds and grind them up into a powder in blender then add water to make a " milk " , then you strain in fine mesh metal kitchen strainer or the paint filter / nut milk bags . ive done this with almonds and almond milk is real good . you can add things like strawberries / sweet fruit to make like a sweet milk shake .

Coconutcutie
08-01-2008, 10:39 AM
Coconut Cutie- That is so scary... I never would have thought of that. Its so disappointing because doctors are supposed to be professionals who help people- im not saying that doctors dont help people in many situations, but this whole experience with my father has made me lose A LOT of faith in them. I know that my dad was on levoquin, but im not sure if he has been on any others. What can be done to get all of the drugs out of the system? You said you still have new symptoms- isnt there any way to completely clean your body out from the drugs?

Michigan Roman- Wow, juice feasting sounds great. My only concern is making sure my dad gets enough protein (he really needs it right now to build up his muscle strength). Do you think that he could receive adequate protein from a juice feast?

Steph

So far there is no known way to clear them from the system.. they appear to bind to mitochondrial DNA and alter structure,function, and repair of cells. This makes perfect sense because they are designed to do this to bacteria and that is how they are able to kill them and eliminate the infection, however they also bind to human DNA the same way, and hang around for a long time if not forever. From what I have read scientists in the lab have not been able to wash these drugs out of rat cells no matter what they have tried. Once it's in, it's in. I only took three pills and I am still suffering. For me this has translated to nerve damage, vascular problems, muscle loss, neurological damage and impaired healing. Others have had tendon ruptures as well. Some people recover in a year, some are ten years out and disabled. There is also the possibility that some kind of auto-immune response is initiated, since many of us develop auto-immune symptoms yet all auto-immune blood markers come back normal. This is an elusive but very real condition. Levaquin is a fluoroquinolone as is Cipro, the drug that I took. I would advise you (and your father) to take a read at www.fluoroquinolones.org. There is a lengthy report detailing the mechanism of damage and just about everything one needs to know about this, including what to do (and not to do).

Gittel
08-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Homeopathy should be able to clear these ailments, both for your father, bicb85, and for you, Coconutcutie. Being able to pinpoint the onset of the maladies is extremely helpful. A visit to a capable homeopath would be well worth the time and $$. I wish you both the best of health.

Gittel

annavon
08-01-2008, 11:03 AM
You may want to contact a naturopathic physician (if you state has N.M.D.'s all the better), or a Holistic Dr. His problems sound pretty serious. My naturopath suggested adding ground flax seeds to my diet because of the Omega 3 oilds in them; it helps with inflammation. Green smoothies and juicing are very improtant too because they get vital nutrients into the body quickly and promote healing.

Eva
08-01-2008, 11:10 AM
Coconut cutie -- MY oh MY goodness am I glad that I have made the choice to not take antibiotics or other "medicine"! I just read through some of the info on the links you provided. Wowee.

Coconutcutie
08-01-2008, 11:35 AM
Coconut cutie -- MY oh MY goodness am I glad that I have made the choice to not take antibiotics or other "medicine"! I just read through some of the info on the links you provided. Wowee.

Yes, I have literally cried (and screamed, and broken things) every day for the mistake I made. I was very against meds at the time that I took it and had tried various natural remedies to treat my infection with no success before I went against my intuition and sought treatment from a doctor. Who would think an antibiotic would be so dangerous? And have so many far-reaching implications? And why no informed consent from the doctor that these drugs have such risks so you can choose something safer before leaving the office? There aren't too many drugs out there that cause irreparable damage after only three pills (I stopped when I started having problems with it)...well, except for rat poison I guess....

bicb85
08-02-2008, 01:48 AM
Again, thank you all SO much for your replies. I have decided to buy a vitamix blender (my current blender is very bad) and start juicing for both myself and my father. Of course, I will also include as many raw meals as I can. For the first time in a while, I actually feel confident that I can help my dad get better. Im looking forward to updating you all on my dad's progress (and mine- I can only get healthier by doing this with him)

I talked my father into going to a homeopathic doctor today. He has an appointement in a couple of weeks. I have heard great things about this homeopathic doctor from many people and I hope that he can help my dad. I want him to go and do acupuncture as well....

Coconutcutie- Im so sorry that this happened to you... its crazy that only 3 pills can cause so much damage. I am actually shocked because I never would have considered antibiotics to be so dangerous... I guess I just assumed that everything would eventually be cleared out of your system. It just goes to show how important it is to use natural means as much as possible. I am actually pretty angry- why are doctors prescribing something like that if it causes so many problems. Its so disappointing.... Thanks for mentioning this because I dont think it would have EVER crossed my mind. I wish you the best in health and hope that everything improves for you.

Thanks again and Im so glad to be part of this board! You are all so helpful!:)

Steph