I will just have surgery

[freespirit]

My mother calls me today and tells me she is having her gall bladder removed next week and she needs me to pick me up from the hospital. Ive known this was coming for awhile bc she has been complaining of pain especially when she consumes fats.

Everyone in my family is sick, my uncle had his gall bladder removed and had thyroid cancer. My mom had thyroid cancer and has had a hysterectomy due to cysts. My aunt has had a portion of her intestines removed and just had a hysterectomy bc of cysts. My grandmother is on dialysis three days a week for almost 4 hours bc she is a very brittle diabetic.


They are the reason I am so diligent about my diet- I dont want major surgery or to ever contribute to the profits of GlaxoSmithKline!!

This morning when we spoke about the pain she was in and the planned surgery I once again brought up raw foods. We kind of got into an argument bc she feels as if I am attacking the way she eats when I bring up raw. She closes the argument by bringing up cancer- "So, if you got cancer you would just eat raw??" I said I wont get cancer bc I am raw, however if I wasnt and I knew about this lifestyle and all the people that have healed themselves, I would become raw overnight-100%. it ended there w/ us agreeing to disagree.

I guess my point here is why is a person willing to have major surgery and have an organ removed before they will consider giving up the cheesy poofs?!?!? I dont understand. How is our instinct for self-preservation so distorted?

[cara4art]

(((Emily))) so sorry to hear about your family's health problems! You are so right on to stick to your guns about raw, especially with these tendencies in your immediate family.
There will come a time, hopefully sooner than later, when people look back on mainstream medicine and see how barbaric it is in so many respects! People think it's "radical" and "extreme" to eat all fresh foods, but they don't seem to blink an eye about being cut open, burned with radiation, and essentially poisoned with chemotherapy for major situations. Granted, there are tales of people who come through such, but these might have been very strong people who prevailed DESPITE some of these kinds of debilitating treatments.
As you've found, people get real defensive about continuing their junk food habits, because to do something else, for them, would upset the apple cart and it is "easier" for them to just go along the status quo.
You're doing your best to stay healthy, and I sure hope you do. Like you, I sure hope not to enrich Big Pharma or anyone else in this line either. My mother died of breast cancer many years ago while I was still relatively young(I was 31 at the time), and my cousin died of lymphoma 4 months ago. His mother(my aunt on my mother's side)STILL believes in mainstream medicine, and his surviving wife has had two sisters die of breast cancer at young ages over the years, and just found out her mother has melanoma!
Seems that people in our mother's generation, especially if we ourselves are somewhat older(I'm 61 here)are much more likely to be fatalistic and believers in mainstream medicine than younger people. A generalization to be sure, but something to ponder anyway.
You see, on all of our journeys here, we are experiencing our own health truths and how powerful raw can be. As I'm fond of saying lately - "Raw changes more than your food."
Best of luck during this challenging time, and keep on rollin' with raw!

[Raene]

It's EASY, that's why. This culture is all about doing things the easy way. We want our food ready for pick-up so that we don't have to be bothered by getting out of the car. We're all lazy now...and yes...we'd die for our lifestyle of laziness.

[Rrose]

Listen, I know plenty of people who would rather wolf down another Big Mac and fries, then to eat all raw food even knowing how bad the SAD food is, and that it is slowy killing them. Plenty. And your question is excellent, I want to know that, too. Guess the flesh is weak.:confused:

[JEN]

Most people believe the lies we are told. You know the truth.

[freespirit]

I know the truth, but why are others so unwilling to open their eyes?

[Revvell]

I know the truth, but why are others so unwilling to open their eyes?

Because it's easier not to. It's easier to put their lives, their health in the hands of others. It's hard to admit that WE, when ill, are the cause of our problems. If we do, then what?

I go out and speak to women's groups about this same thing. What's interesting is how many will nod when I say certain things then go about doing what they've been doing... making excuses for why they can't rather than reasons for how they can.

People unknowingly carry their imbalances from childhood into adulthood. Unless they are willing to examine their fears and their childhood "survival" techniques, they can't/wont change.

If they admit what they've been doing is the cause of their dis-ease/illness, then they'll beat themselves up for it; make themselves bad/wrong and then what? They'd rather not face that.

Just look at the people on this forum who choose to eat raw, do so for awhile, then beat themselves up when they eat something cooked. Imagine the guilt someone is carrying from a lifetime of doing something that has lead to where they are now. Very few will want to face that.

Revvell

[Aleesha Sattva]

because that is THEIR path and we have no right to judge their choices or their path. it is for her to make that decision... not us.

instead, hold her in the light and cherish her path... while walking your own. over the years, others will see you... they will see your health and it will make an impact or not... their choice. as it IS their life to live. :)

my son said to me the other day... "mom, if i ever get real sick... like real sick, it's nice to know that all i have to do is eat raw and i'll heal myself completely. watching you has taught me that." i said, "why not eat raw and prevent illness?" (he's 14) "LOL" was his response.

but hey, someday that may change ;)

[RawHeaven]

because that is THEIR path and we have no right to judge their choices or their path. it is for her to make that decision... not us.


Amen.

I'll add they are "experiencing" this to fulfill their soul's purpose. Not for us to judge. Hard to watch most definately, but everything is in divine order.

[freespirit]

so, I must lead by example.

However while my mothers eyes remained closed to something that could heal her ailments, I watch her health deteriorate, and I watch my only remaining parent become more ill.

My father died three years ago bc he believed in the so-called miracles of modern medicine- namely radiation- and I refuse to sit by the wayside and watch my mother follow suit. I am only 26 and I want my mother here for a long time. I cant just let her follow her path because it is wrong- I see it in her face, hear it in her voice, and feel it in her negative vibrations

How do you wake a person up??

[RawHeaven]

How do you wake a person up??

You can't. You can only wake yourself up.

Your mom has made a choice as painful as it is, it's her choice. Love her and influence her with your own good health. Don't project what happened and is happening with the rest of your family onto her with your own thoughts. Instead send your Mom lots of love and see her well daily, every time a negative thought enters your consciousness regarding her situation, turn it around and see her well. Visualize her healthy, well and strong. Eventually she will see herself the same way...the energy of love is the highest vibrating energy out there and a huge healer.

Many blessings to you & your Mom.

[Raw Yogini]

Yes, unfortunately you can't wake anyone up.

Do you live close to your mother? Would she be willing to let you make her green smoothies? Would she drink them? Would you get them to her, etc. W/OUT preaching to her? You know, if she agrees to drink even like a cup a day, that's progress, but it won't be a good experience for either of you if you hound her about changing her ways. You know, you get a supply of GS to her w/out talking about it or focusing on it. Could you just casually ask her if she's willing to do that and receive her answer? If she says no maybe you could suggest she think about it and let her know she can call you anytime she changes her mind, no preaching or "I told you so" involved, then end of discussion.

If she's willing to have a GS every day she might feel the power of them. She may feel how alive and healing they are and ask for more OR she might not but at least she'd be getting something healthy. She may also completely refuse to drink it and that's something you'll have to accept.

I personally believe trying to convince people to change just gets most of them to dig their heels into their own beliefs even more.

Best wishes to you and your mother.

[Aleesha Sattva]

so, I must lead by example.


exactly! it is all you can do... so do it well!

[D'vorah]

People unknowingly carry their imbalances from childhood into adulthood. Unless they are willing to examine their fears and their childhood "survival" techniques, they can't/wont change.



That is powerfully true.

I've been using and recommending

http://www.thepathway.org/

It's frustrating to watch family members do damage to themselves. It's frustrating to be the one trying to change and struggling.

For some, I suspect it's complete and total denial. For others, an addictive like response.

Deborah

[D'vorah]

Amen.

I'll add they are "experiencing" this to fulfill their soul's purpose. Not for us to judge. Hard to watch most definately, but everything is in divine order.


I couldn't disagree more. I don't for a minute believe it was divine order or G-d's plan that my elderly father have his leg sliced open and 12 inches of artery bypassed, only to return home having been given NO diet or lifestyle counseling. If he has vascular disease in his leg, he also has it in his chest and head, and it's like listening to a time bomb tick away.

Deborah

[Nurse in the Raw]

How do you wake a person up??

You can't. If the disease process itself is not enough to wake them up, nothing will. I watched my mother smoke herself into an early grave. She refused to eat right and drank sodas and smoked all day. She drank cups and cups of nasty milk, cottage cheese and ensure. That was her diet.

I was forced to watch her health decline, and couldn't do anything about it. She wouldn't listen to me. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I quit beating myself up about it though. People are responsible for their OWN health.....just as we are.

I just tell my family members who refuse to eat right, they better carry good life insurance because I am not going to be financially responsible for their funeral expenses. My mom left us with a huge funeral debt because she let her policy lapse. Not something you want to go through while you are grieving.