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Cinammon
05-02-2008, 05:23 AM
Hey

I just went to see my GP today, to see if she could prescribe some short-term tranx for extreme stress (I know, I know, tranx not good, but I'm getting pretty desperate ..)

Anyway, she treated me as if I was a drug addict (note: I've never been prescribed tranx before.) She didn't listen; she was just AWFUL!!!

WHY do doctors have such respect, when so few of them do anything to deserve it??? They just listen to their own ideas; they don't listen to you; they don't listen to/see the blazingly obvious.

And they're paid far too much money (GPs in the UK are earning up to and over £100,000.00 a year, which is far in excess of the work they do). Whereas a nursing auxilliary will earn about (I think) £15,000 a year for some really hard work, and for some really excellent attention and compassion to patients. It's a VERY unfair world!!

Up the revolution!!

I've written a letter of complaint about her, but don't know if I should hand it in to the surgery - you don't want to get a reputation as a 'troublemaker'.

God! Grrr!

Thanks for listening!

Cinammon xx

Revvell
05-02-2008, 06:34 AM
I'm not sure what the issue is here. Did she not prescribe drugs? If so, all I can say is, good for her!

Here's my take on "stress" ~ find out the cause and eliminate it; work on healing oneself mentally, emotionally and physically. Maybe you can find a meetup group or some sort of support group you can talk with; journal; do movement and blow out the energy. Drugs "should" be one's last ~ VERY last ~ resort as they don't take care of the problem, just the symptoms.

Just what you wanted to hear, right? :cool:

Apasaraw
05-02-2008, 09:28 AM
I thought you had a GPS problem at first. haha! I'm a GIS/GPS tech so I came this way.

I underrstand your anger and frustration. That experience was so disrespectful!

Not all Docs are awful...though many people run into are. You need to take your power back and find a good one who does listen. I have also found that Sports Medicine Drs are very open and listen and treat wholistically. Even if you aren't an athlete they'll see you. I highly reccomend them. They aren't pill happy and try to get to the root of problems.

I went though 4-5 Docs before I found my MD Dr. Eva who listens and will do any test I want and knows food is medicine. And she isn't afraid to look stuff up right in front of me as we find answers together. There are good MDs...truly. She's s sensible German...find a German! ;)

Good luck...

Cinammon
05-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Hey Revvell

Ah, no, it wasn't because she didn't prescribe anything; it was her attitude.
She was clearly bored and disgusted; couldn't offer anything else; was so fixated on being a 'good' (aka self-righteous) doctor and not prescribing any tranquilisers that she didn't listen to a word I was saying.

I feel she put her own assumptions onto me.

And she couldn't offer anything else - and she didn't seem to care.

I bet twenty years ago she'd have prescribed tranquilisers like smarties - the not thinking for herself thing got to me, too. She did mention anti-depressants - despite the fact that recent trials have proven they don't work, and can actually cause psychosis (although obviously not in all cases, and I do feel they can be good for things like clinical and post-natal depression.)

Just not for someone who's just been stressed out of their mind for months, and who will probably start smoking again, and drinking more - and THAT'S what I mean, really. She didn't give a toss that smoking and drinking more are probably worse long term than a quick course of mild tranx. Just so long as she didn't appear to be the 'bad' doctor who prescribed tranquilisers - never mind the fact that the person in front of her was desperate.

But it was the fact that she was clearly bored and disgusted and didn't give a toss that I was sitting there nearly in tears and obviously in a v bad way.

You'd think I'd gone in there with a gun to her head and said 'Drugs - or else'.

Grrrr ....

Good suggestions; like the phrase 'blowing out energy'. I've done some of them; it's just ... I've been running on adrenalin and a lot of emotional pain/anger/fear for months/years/decades(!!) and I feel it's got to the point where the adrenalin automatically kicks in when I go home (bad home situation), and I'm falling behind on coursework, which is terrifying me. It's taking all my energy just to hold it together enough to attend lectures. I just wanted something to relax me - stop the adrenalin. And I know there are other ways - I've tried a lot of them - but they don't hold out against a bad living situation - they just drive it down deeper. (And I know you're thinking tranx would just do that too - but I feel my body just needs a break!!) I'd love to give it a break by going high raw, but I think, right now, all the surfacing emotions would probably kill me!!!

Cinammon
05-02-2008, 09:49 AM
Apasaraw - many thanks! You're absolutely right - it was the disrespect! One human should not talk to another in distress the way that woman talked to me today.

I'll look into sports doctors - see if it's the same in the UK. Thanks.

Dr Eva sounds great. Funnily enough, I had a lovely German GP once, too - she was terrific!

It's such a lottery here - you get what you're given, and sometimes they're great, and sometimes they're that woman today!

I'll definitely try and shop around. The annoying thing is, you never know quite what they're writing on your notes, or saying to their colleagues. I'm probably down as a potential addict now ... !!! I'll be lucky to get neurofen for childbirth ... not that I'm planning any childbirths soon, but you know what I mean ...

Take care

Love

Cinammon x

PS: I looked GIS/GPS up on Google - it's something to do with internet mapping?

Revvell
05-02-2008, 09:56 AM
O.k., now I'm clear. Feels like if she at least cared (was going to say "acted as if") but yes, you need a more caring practitioner. I've gone through some harrowing stuff and never used drugs to relieve it. I understand what you're saying but please, find another way.

Suggestion: call one of the practitioners here: http://www.thework.com/facilitators.asp. Far as I know, unless there's a toll call, it's free. Hmmm. Just looking. Maybe not free. Use to be.

Just looking at Byron's vids on the site is so calming. Please, give it a try.

Revvell



Hey Revvell

Ah, no, it wasn't because she didn't prescribe anything; it was her attitude.
She was clearly bored and disgusted; couldn't offer anything else; was so fixated on being a 'good' (aka self-righteous) doctor and not prescribing any tranquilisers that she didn't listen to a word I was saying.

I feel she put her own assumptions onto me.

And she couldn't offer anything else - and she didn't seem to care.

I bet twenty years ago she'd have prescribed tranquilisers like smarties - the not thinking for herself thing got to me, too. She did mention anti-depressants - despite the fact that recent trials have proven they don't work, and can actually cause psychosis (although obviously not in all cases, and I do feel they can be good for things like clinical and post-natal depression.)

Just not for someone who's just been stressed out of their mind for months, and who will probably start smoking again, and drinking more - and THAT'S what I mean, really. She didn't give a toss that smoking and drinking more are probably worse long term than a quick course of mild tranx.

But it was the fact that she was clearly bored and disgusted and didn't give a toss that I was sitting there nearly in tears and obviously in a v bad way.

You'd think I'd gone in there with a gun to her head and said 'Drugs - or else'.

Grrrr ....

Good suggestions; like the phrase 'blowing out energy'. I've done some of them; it's just ... I've been running on adrenalin and a lot of emotional pain/anger/fear for months/years/decades(!!) and I feel it's got to the point where the adrenalin automatically kicks in when I go home (bad home situation), and I'm falling behind on coursework, which is terrifying me. It's taking all my energy just to hold it together enough to attend lectures. I just wanted something to relax me - stop the adrenalin. And I know there are other ways - I've tried a lot of them - but they don't hold out against a bad living situation - they just drive it down deeper. (And I know you're thinking tranx would just do that too - but I feel my body just needs a break!! I'd love to give it a break by going high raw, but I think, right now, all the surfacing emotions would probably kill me!!!

Apasaraw
05-02-2008, 10:01 AM
Nothing gets to me like a smug, pompous person who doesn't listen and also has a god complex. No wonder you're so mad!

One word...Valerian. If you are really stressing, this root will work. It's smells like poo but it will calm your nerves and help you de-stress.

Cinammon
05-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Thanks, guys!

Revvell - I'll definitely try and find Byron's vids on the site. Funnily enough, she's occasionally popped up as a potential answer, but I've never really fancied it much. Maybe I'll try it this time - see if there's anything in the UK. Thanks very much for the link.

Apasaraw - absolutely right!! Totally agree with you! Such people should not really be GPs!

Will go and get some valerian root, and ignore the smell of poo!

Thanks again, both of you, for caring enough to respond, and for the positive suggestions. Much appreciated.

Lots love

Cinammon xx

jacsam
05-02-2008, 10:52 AM
There are alot of great relaxing herbs besides valerian, like kava kava. Girl, I hope things start going better for you.

Anastazia
05-02-2008, 11:50 AM
There's a product I used to sell called Prime One, a formula made with adaptogen herbs from Russia's Tiaga forest, they GREATLY help with stress, adrenaline, & the too high cortisol levels that result from it, (which, by the way, often causes weight gain in the belly), I highly recommend them...just google Prime one, you'll find it....it's cheaper to sign up as a distributor, of course, & there's no mimimum to purchase, & you can cancel anytime (including your month's coming order...)

They also have an excellent product, same thing but concentrated in tincture form, called Prime One Gold, expensive, but well worth it, a few drops under the tongue in a tenswe situation & you can clearly FEEL your adrenaline levels decline & your ability to cope increase! Amazing stuff!

The main ingredient is siberian ginseng, which, yes, you can get anywhere, but the propitiary blend of adaptogenic herbs they have works far better (for me, & have heard the same from many) than just ther herb on it's own...also helps immensly with things like handling jetlag, chemo, sleep deprivation, & other things that affect your immune system...

...I'll be keeping you in my prayers! Keep lookin' up! :rolleyes:

Also, please make sure you're getting enough sleep (so you don't need an alarm clock, your body gets to wake up naturally when it's fully rested...) that goes a LOOOOOOOOOONG way to helping you handle stress...

...if ya lived closer, I'd give you a really long massage! :D
~Anastazia~

Anastazia
05-02-2008, 04:31 PM
...bump...
...this dissapeared & I didn't know if you saw it, Cinnamon...
...hope it helps you & anyone else under high levels of stress...
~Anastazia~

Raw Yogini
05-02-2008, 05:30 PM
Do they have nurse practitioners in the UK? Here in the US they spend TONS of time assessing and are very holistic. If so, I'd go to one over an MD any day.

Cinammon
05-03-2008, 09:04 AM
Thank you so much, Jacsam and Anastazia. This forum really is the best(!)

Anastazia, I'll definitely be trying Prime One gold - it sounds fantastic. Interesting point re weight gain in the belly!

And thank you so much for praying for me - that's really good of you, and very much appreciated. And thanks for the offer of the long massage - wish I did live closer!!

Raw Yogini - hey! Yeah, we do have nurse practitioners in the UK, but I think they're few and far between as yet? (I've never come across one) but they sound fantastic. Something to look into.

Thanks again, everyone, and God bless - you've all made me feel so much better.

Love

Cinammon xx

Apasaraw
05-03-2008, 04:06 PM
I looked GIS/GPS up on Google - it's something to do with internet mapping?

Geospatial stuff...GPS data, scientific data and and map making and such all rolled together. I am a cultural GIS person as I used to be archaeologist. It's fun to see sites and artifacts on a map all at once.:)

MangoMadness
05-04-2008, 09:44 AM
I just want to say that I put off going raw for months and months because I feared not being able to handle the emotional detox. Eventually I decided I had to just do it and see what happened because it had to be better than how I was feeling. Well. It was. Much much better :)
The emotional detoxes were over in a few weeks and not constant. In between each I felt calmer and happier than I had felt in years.

Cinammon
05-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Thanks, MangoMadness! Glad it's working out for you!

I'm starting to feel the same way - I may as well do it; it can't be worse than I'm feeling right now (surely ...)

Love

Cinammon x

Conscious Midwife
05-05-2008, 04:51 AM
St; Johns Worts

A NAP

A Vacation

Time Alone, lots and lots of time

A big releasing snotty nosed, red eye cry, coplete will slobber, screaming

Some good, really good, SMOOCHES

PRAYER