What do a person do when...

[goingrawchelle]

What does a person do when she's allergic to all fruits, vegetables, and nuts? I mean anacephalactic (sp?) allergic...throat closes up, tongue swells, etc. and also digestive responses like diahhrea, vomiting, bloating, etc. Eeks! My friend is now wanting to get rid of her food allergies and has read about enzymes helping with food allergies (although she's tried that a long time ago). How can she get those into her diet other than with supplements? Hmmm... appreciate whatever you can offer.

[Raspberry4]

This is a very frustrating situation. To be allergic to ALL fruits, nuts, veges - and still wanting to be healthy. I have no advice at all. I just feel so sad for your friend and am sending well wishes across the internet to her. Good luck.

[Frugal Raw]

What DOES she eat?

[goingrawchelle]

Well she eats meat, rice, pasta, bread, and all dairy. I shouldn't have said she can't have ANY fruits or vegetables since she is able to eat spring mix lettuce (no other kind except cooked). Oh that reminds me...she CAN eat COOKED vegetables, but not raw. I should have specified that. She can eat raw tomatoes, red onion, and strawberries and THAT IS ALL. It is sad because she can't even share an apple with her kiddos. When she needs a snack her only choice is really a piece of meat and/or some cheese.

[Aleesha Sattva]

that's odd. i wonder if all the cooked food is making her allergic to the raw.

weird.

[goingrawchelle]

Hey what a thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOODNESS!!!!! Could that POSSIBLY be??????? :eek:

[LisaDS88]

Wow! It sounds like she needs to detox in a serious way!! Food allergies to natural things (fruit, veggies, and nuts) are nothing more than your body going into rapid "detox" when you eat them..... or so I have heard. Certain raw foods help people detox more than other raw foods I think. When I first started eating raw I DEVELOPED allergic reactions to strawberries. I never had problems with them before. Then I read that allergies from raw natural food is nothing more than strong detox symptoms caused by that particular food, and in order to get rid of the problem, you should eat more of that certain food until the allergy goes away. SO, hearing that, I ate bowl fulls of strawberries for a few days (suffering with a major breakout of hives the whole time) and then it totally went away. I haven't had a problem since.

If she is so allergic she can't even try a little raw food without her throat swelling, I would recommend a very long water fast to do some major detox.

And, YES, it is the cooked food making her allergic to raw food. That is because the cooked food is making her toxic. Once the toxins go away, so do the allergies to raw food.

[Conscious Midwife]

I bet the anaphylatic shock response is due to the pesticides on the raw foods not the actually food.

[Aleesha Sattva]

I would recommend a very long water fast to do some major detox.

i second that.

[DavidZaneMason]

I agree with the above great posts. FAR more likely is the probability that the person has eaten very unhealthy in the past....or has chronic conditions....and that eating healthy food immediately starts 'scrubbing' the person out....and this dumps quantities of toxins into the system/blood.....causing an 'allergic' type reaction. All a person CAN do is eat increasing amounts of what THEY regard as the healthiest foods....and accept responsibility for what happens....and do not try to supress symptomology. Good luck and strength to you and your loved ones.

-David Z. Mason

[goingrawchelle]

Raw veggies and fruits and nuts cause her to go into anaphylactic shock and cooked veggies cause her digestive symptoms.

[goingrawchelle]

And, YES, it is the cooked food making her allergic to raw food. That is because the cooked food is making her toxic. Once the toxins go away, so do the allergies to raw food.

OK so if she took out dairy, meat, and cooked food and she's allergic to raw food what WOULD she eat? She is reading this book called Cures for Food Allergies (something like that) and the author said for her food allergies she ate grapes and drank water for THREE months and when she went back to eating she had the same allergic responses. What to do...what to do?:confused:

[JEN]

Has she had these reactions her whole life??? How old is she??? When did they start???

[goingrawchelle]

Since she was a child. She's now 29. It's gotten progressively worse to where she's added more and more veggies to her list of "have nots." She's been to allergists for testing and she breaks out in hives really, really bad and immediately. Eek! :(

[DavidZaneMason]

Look: I hear you...but there are 1000's....maybe 10,000 varieties of fruits and vegetables. SHE will have to do the leg work...and find the ones that WORK for her....and incorporate those into her system. If she got 'used' to a crappy diet....she can get 'used' to a healthy one......but she MAY have to endure some transitional allergy symptoms....which I would allow. But she should definitely focus on what she CAN do....and not what she SHOULD do! LOL.

-David Z. Mason

[Banshee]

This sounds like such a scary situation!
I wouldn't even know how to suggest anything, because if she increases her intake of things that could send her into anaphylactic shock, that is super serious, like possible death serious.

Has she met with a holistic/naturapath doctor or nutritionist? Maybe she can get some insight into changes from them. I do find it odd that her body isn't rejecting the dairy, but the vegetables.

I think everyone elses posts are great, and I agree that she should try to do some transitioning. If grapes work, she should eat grapes and slowly add things that may be tolerated. Nuts and seeds are probably something to stay away from initially just because those seem to be the most allergenic. There are many other items that good fats could come from.

I am also sending MANY positive thoughts her way...good luck!

[RawforSeth]

Have her look into NAET. It has done wonders for people with allergies.

naet.com

[Kalimelle]

Hi all,

I know that what I say is likely to be unpopular, but I hope that you'll listen with an open mind. I want to start by saying that raw works WONDERS for me, and I'm a big fan of this way of eating, and am happy to encourage others to give it a try. I'm also an ethical vegan, so of course I'm not interested in advocating the use of animal products.

That being said, there are naturally occurring 'toxins' in many raw fruits and vegetables, which most of our bodies are able to handle. For those of us who eat raw, we are usually choosing organic foods and reducing our toxic load in other ways, so it's not hard for our bodies to handle and denature these toxins. (I still won't eat raw mushrooms though.) That could be a piece of this.

Also, allergies are reactions to PROTEINS. What are enzymes, after all? They're proteins! Cooking denatures these proteins, changing their shape and deactivating them. For those of us who have more normal functioning, we want those lovely enzymes in an active, normal shape. For those people who have allergies, those enzyme proteins may be the triggers of their bodies' immune reactions. If the enzyme is denatured by cooking, it may mean that the body will not react to it in such a harmful way.

I have to say that in this case, I am not sure that a raw foods diet is the answer for your friend. I don't think that there is any single diet that will work for every single person, and even though we love RAW and thrive on it, we should be mindful of the amazing diversity that exists between human beings, and work with others to help them find their own personal best diet that incorporates ethical principles and vibrant health.

Namaste,
Kali

[goingrawchelle]

I want to quote and thank many of you for your responses. Haven't much time now though.

I quickly wanted to say she's seen an allergist (not sure if he's a homeopathic
doctor). There are 1000s of fruits and veggies out there. I'm going to see if we can figure out more things she can eat like the odd ones I had never tried until raw. This way of eating perhaps isn't the ideal one in her case (it's very unique in my opinion).

Thank you and I pray your responses will continue to come. You've all given me food for thought for her situation. I really appreciate you!

[Aleesha Sattva]

so what exactly is your friend's 'food' goal here? is it to become raw, is it simply to reduce her allergies regardless of what she ends up eating in the end?

if it were me... i would do an extended fast, using whatever veggies and fruits she can tolerate as juices (fresh of course).

after the fast (minimum 30 days... i would shoot for even longer).... i would slowly reintroduce other fruits and veggies back into her diet... s-l-o-w-l-y

[Betsy]

Wow! It sounds like she needs to detox in a serious way!! Food allergies to natural things (fruit, veggies, and nuts) are nothing more than your body going into rapid "detox" when you eat them..... or so I have heard. Certain raw foods help people detox more than other raw foods I think. When I first started eating raw I DEVELOPED allergic reactions to strawberries. I never had problems with them before. Then I read that allergies from raw natural food is nothing more than strong detox symptoms caused by that particular food, and in order to get rid of the problem, you should eat more of that certain food until the allergy goes away. SO, hearing that, I ate bowl fulls of strawberries for a few days (suffering with a major breakout of hives the whole time) and then it totally went away. I haven't had a problem since.

If she is so allergic she can't even try a little raw food without her throat swelling, I would recommend a very long water fast to do some major detox.

And, YES, it is the cooked food making her allergic to raw food. That is because the cooked food is making her toxic. Once the toxins go away, so do the allergies to raw food.


This is so SO totally true, and I can vouch for myself. I could have written this. I was very allergic to all foods high in sulfer (collards, broccolii, radishes, ect) breaking out with tiny bumps and feeling like there were ants crawling all over my skin and watery nose, fatigue, ect. But after slowly incorporating those foods into my diet after a while my allergy to sulferous foods went away. Now I enjoy many different kinds of suferous foods without reaction. This is SO true so I believe she needs to detox in a big big way. Poor thing I feel for her.:confused: ONe should NOT have to live on animal foods and cooked grains to survive. That is just not natural, you know?

[goingrawchelle]

I don't believe she would eat only raw but she wants to be able to eat fruits and vegetables.

[Seren]

I think maybe she should cut out the processed grains and dairy, and eat only the cooked veg she can handle and lots of the raw fruit and veg she can handle, (while trying to find more raw fruit and veg she can handle) and drink lots of water to flush out the toxins.

Also maybe upp the exercise to get her lymph fluid flowing to help eliminate the toxins.

She may also want to try a colonic (Ive heard people have helped their allergies with these... can't remember where!) and/ or a lymphatic drainage massage, and steam rooms.

Basically, cut out the most toxic foods and introduce detoxification methods that don't involve food, while slowly increasing the amount of raw food by finding new stuff :)

Hope that helps!

xxx

[goingrawchelle]

That's more to think about. Thanks. I like the idea of detoxing in ways that don't involve food for obvious reasons. ;)

[StarFire]

that's odd. i wonder if all the cooked food is making her allergic to the raw.

weird.


wow... i wonder??? .... :eek:

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[StarFire]

there are some really good suggestions here though... perhaps she might consider them, perhaps see a homepathic healer and discuss this with them??

I agree with Seren... "drink lots of water to flush out the toxins. Also maybe upp the exercise to get her lymph fluid flowing to help eliminate the toxins.
She may also want to try a colonic (Ive heard people have helped their allergies with these... can't remember where!) and/ or a lymphatic drainage massage, and steam rooms."

and recycling goddess... "an extended fast, using whatever veggies and fruits she can tolerate as juices (fresh of course).

after the fast (minimum 30 days... i would shoot for even longer).... i would slowly reintroduce other fruits and veggies back into her diet... s-l-o-w-l-y"

Perhaps a fast would do her good -- eating all that meat and dairy means she's probably very clogged up with mucous and toxins. If she is serious about her health.. a fast would be a good place to start.

Also -- EXERCISE.. she's gotta move - get the blood flowing and her lymphatic system moving... wow.. God Bless her.... I hope she is able to find her path to good health.

keep us posted okay?

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