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Raene
03-06-2008, 07:13 PM
Anyone else see that he has cancer, apparently "the worst kind"? Too bad no one's told him about raw foods...isn't it sad that people just don't know? I wish we could just tell everyone about it, and even if they didn't want to do it, they'd at least know it could be great for them if they ever got diagnosed with something "deadly" and "incurable".

Bodhi
03-06-2008, 07:17 PM
He has always been one of my favorite celebrities. It is sad that he is sick and sad that more people don't know about the benefits of eating raw. :(

Bechtel
03-06-2008, 07:26 PM
raw food eating is not a cure for cancer. it is not a remedy. it just make body and immune system stronger to fight cancer. i have been raw for 5 years. it is great. i have a renesanse of health, BUT, for instance, it did not cure my bad back.
patryck was a great guy, but he did his share of stupid things (drinking, etc)
nobody nows the cause of this particular cancer. my opinion - it is more on genetic level.

DavidZaneMason
03-06-2008, 07:53 PM
Right. The answers are out there. He will choose his path, and the information paradigm that lines up with HIS goals....and HIS heart - which we cannot know. If he wants to know about raw...or juicing...or any other health paradigms, there are wonderful web sites like this one...that are not a secret...and open to all.

-David Z. Mason

Stina
03-06-2008, 08:39 PM
There are certainly a lot of documented stories of people with cancer who chose not to do Western medical treatment and instead do a raw food and/or juicing approach and lived to tell the truth.
Raw is so popular with celebrities, I'm sure at this point most of them have heard of it. It's the closest thing we'll get to the fountain of youth so a lot of them have hopped on board.

Marin Mom
03-06-2008, 09:10 PM
This is so sad, it's exactly what crossed my mind too. Whenever someone has an ailment or excess weight they are complaining about I try to gently bring up the subject of a raw food diet but unfortunately most (but not all) people seem to show little interest (or say "so that's how you stay so skinny") so I drop the subject. Has this ever happened to anyone else? :confused:

Stina
03-06-2008, 10:20 PM
This is so sad, it's exactly what crossed my mind too. Whenever someone has an ailment or excess weight they are complaining about I try to gently bring up the subject of a raw food diet but unfortunately most (but not all) people seem to show little interest (or say "so that's how you stay so skinny") so I drop the subject. Has this ever happened to anyone else? :confused:

Yeah, messing with people's gluttony just doesn't fly. but I've been pleasantly surprized at the minority of people who do listen open-mindedly. And for the others, I sympathize; it's so hard to change eating habits! I should know: I'm fasting right now.
We are so blessed to be on this path!

Bodhi
03-06-2008, 10:29 PM
I know most of you have probably seen this video before, but I'll post the link in case someone new hasn't seen it. Its about raw food diet and cancer.

http://www.drkelley.com/

lynnc72
03-06-2008, 11:40 PM
He has pancreatic cancer. The same kind that took Michael Langdon some years ago.

Cabosun
03-07-2008, 04:34 AM
I watched my FIL die from this cancer 14 years ago. It is a very painful cancer. He was gone within 3 months of being diagnosed. I wish I knew back then what I know now about cancer. I believe he would still be here. Noone has to die from cancer!

walnutty
03-07-2008, 05:53 AM
I ADORE Patrick Swayze (was watching "Dirty Dancing" last night)! He is a lifelong dancer, BUT he also at one time smoked three packs of cigarettes a day. I watched a program tonight about pancreatic cancer and smoking is the largest cause of this kind of cancer. What a shame! To be so active and so in tune with your body (dancing is a vigorous sport) and then abuse it with toxic chemicals. He quit smoking some time ago, but unfortunately cancer got him. Raw is so very healing, but it can only do so much. I know others on this board have posted their struggle with quitting smoking and I hope this has some impact on you. As Oprah has stated, "This is the year for change!". I hope if you are struggling with smoking or any addiction that you find the strength to end the addiction THIS YEAR!!!

I hope this post does not offend anyone, it just breaks my heart to see people suffer needlessly...whether that be Patrick Swayze or my fellow RFT'er.

walnutty
03-07-2008, 05:57 AM
p.s. I also found out that Mr. Swayze is on all liquid diet, although the doctor interviewed did not state that it was an all fresh juice diet, just an all liquid diet. He is on all liquids to give his digestive system a rest, isn't that interesting?

Revvell
03-07-2008, 06:57 AM
This is so sad, it's exactly what crossed my mind too. Whenever someone has an ailment or excess weight they are complaining about I try to gently bring up the subject of a raw food diet but unfortunately most (but not all) people seem to show little interest (or say "so that's how you stay so skinny") so I drop the subject. Has this ever happened to anyone else? :confused:

Absolutely. I purchased 50 "Eating" dvd's to sell and share and I have given quite a few out to people at networking meetings. Those who've watched them said it was "quite interesting" yet, they're still going to eat meat. *shrugs* Can't teach pigs to sing ~ it'll frustrate you and irritate the pig. Someone else calls it "shoveling smoke".

Revvell

jacsam
03-07-2008, 08:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to know that he already knows about the raw food lifestyle.

Raene
03-07-2008, 08:17 AM
raw food eating is not a cure for cancer. it is not a remedy. it just make body and immune system stronger to fight cancer. i have been raw for 5 years. it is great. i have a renesanse of health, BUT, for instance, it did not cure my bad back.
patryck was a great guy, but he did his share of stupid things (drinking, etc)
nobody nows the cause of this particular cancer. my opinion - it is more on genetic level.

OH, I completely disagree. Raw foods do HEAL our bodies. It has been documented to heal people with cancer. Everyone does stupid things, but we can fix our mistakes with raw. I don't think things are genetic anymore. Eating habits are passed down from generation to generation...and those eating habits often aren't good ones and make us sick.

trinity082482
03-07-2008, 08:38 AM
I wish him the best of luck.

Revvell
03-07-2008, 09:41 AM
Ditto and well said.



OH, I completely disagree. Raw foods do HEAL our bodies. It has been documented to heal people with cancer. Everyone does stupid things, but we can fix our mistakes with raw. I don't think things are genetic anymore. Eating habits are passed down from generation to generation...and those eating habits often aren't good ones and make us sick.

rawnerino
03-07-2008, 10:12 AM
I lost my mother to Hodgkin's disease in the mid 70's and that is the time frame of the man in Dr. Kelley's video. Thanks so much for sharing this with us...so powerful. I eat as close to 100% raw vegan as possible and feel that I can be strong and healthy to be there for my daughters. I have been raw for only 2 months, vegan for 4 months and vegetarian for decades! I am sick off and on, but never like I was before. I hope it is just the process of detoxing my body. How long does this process last? I sauna in a far infrared sauna daily and work out regularly.

Thanks for any wisdom of experience, and I don't ever see going back to the SAD diet!!!!

Ginger
03-07-2008, 10:23 AM
100% Cure Rate in Terminal Pancreatic Cancer
http://www.drkelley.info/articles/archive.php?artid=283

free online book tells you how to cure cancer yourself
http://www.whale.to/cancer/k/Contents.html

Stina
03-07-2008, 10:40 AM
100% Cure Rate in Terminal Pancreatic Cancer
http://www.drkelley.info/articles/archive.php?artid=283

free online book tells you how to cure cancer yourself
http://www.whale.to/cancer/k/Contents.html

Excellent links. You're like our librarian on board, always sharing good info.:)

Stina
03-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Absolutely. I purchased 50 "Eating" dvd's to sell and share and I have given quite a few out to people at networking meetings. Those who've watched them said it was "quite interesting" yet, they're still going to eat meat. *shrugs* Can't teach pigs to sing ~ it'll frustrate you and irritate the pig. Someone else calls it "shoveling smoke".

Revvell

More like "herding cats."

Revvell
03-07-2008, 11:09 AM
HAH!!! Like that one too! :D



More like "herding cats."

RawHeaven
03-07-2008, 12:01 PM
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dogmd
03-07-2008, 12:35 PM
More like "herding cats."

I like that one too.. :D

carolg
03-07-2008, 03:09 PM
I never hear of SAD diet without drugs trying to heal others and sometimes they do get their temporary fix as they don't know the effects of the drugs on other parts of the body. Regardless even the hallelujah diet has fabulous testimonies and that is 85% raw, 15% cooked for the taste buds only, but vegan, plant based only with results.

Sometimes people hear the message but not ready to change or think it will never happen to them till it does. My son is living proof now. Growing up hearing the health, vegan, plant based message and seeing us live this way over 30 years he has always rebelled and today he is into massive cheese, plays like he was born and raised Italian, but just by my husband coming from Sicilty thinking he will never get sick. So far he has been lucky, but he surely is not doing anything to stay well except having a physical job and drinking lots of water. He doesn't get it so the student is not ready yet in our case.

carolg

carolg
03-07-2008, 03:14 PM
I never hear of SAD diet without drugs trying to heal others and sometimes they do get their temporary fix as they don't know the effects of the drugs on other parts of the body. Regardless even the hallelujah diet has fabulous testimonies and that is 85% raw, 15% cooked for the taste buds only, but vegan, plant based only with results.

Sometimes people hear the message but not ready to change or think it will never happen to them till it does. My son is living proof now. Growing up hearing the health, vegan, plant based message and seeing us live this way over 30 years he has always rebelled. Today he is into massive cheese, plays like he was born and raised in Italian. He eats lots of meats and loves Italian foods. My husband comes from Sicily so maybe son thinks he will never get sick. So far he has been lucky, but he surely is not doing anything to stay well except having a physical job and drinking lots of water.

I can't be the teacher yet if the student is not ready. I suppose his clueless wife who feeds the grandbaby horrible will be his guide. She is another story in itself. She's cute but bad news to say she's our DIL--"cold as ice personality"!

I wish Patrick the best and surley not long suffering ever.

carolg

RawLoveBaby
03-07-2008, 07:38 PM
It's so sad to hear this news because it's hitting so close to home at the moment. My father-in-law has a very aggressive form of cancer. It started in the bile duct. They found this early January. Since then, it has spread to the liver, pancreas, lungs, and lymph system. I wish he were open to the raw foods lifestyle or anything other than what western medicine offers, but he isn't. I've tried. It is a major lesson to be learned for me that I cannot force someone to do something even though I'm only wanting him to save his own life.

Barbie2
03-07-2008, 08:58 PM
Pancreatic Cancer is a very aggressive Cancer, my Dad died in 1965 from Pancreatic Cancer. He suffered from alot of back pain and Mom would rub his back with Ben Gay, to this day I hate the smell of Ben Gay.