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Rawsome Ginger
03-03-2008, 07:03 AM
Hello All!
I have chosen not to give my son vaccines after the first time at 2 months old. Please refresh my memory why... I am getting so much static on it! Like my son wasn't going to get a cold sometime. Every single person is at me about it. The Grandmas, doctors, etc.. Even causing Dad to second guess our decision...Any advice???

4forme
03-03-2008, 07:20 AM
There are many reasons to not vaccinate. It's been a while since I have read up on it, so forgive em for being a bit fuzzy. The one thing I stuck to when people asked and my dd was little was the fact that the bllod/brain barrier isn't in tact before they turn 2. This is a huge factor when putting chemicals in thier body! So, if nothing else, you can say, I want to delay until he/she is 2 or until I can bcome more educated. The other reason that was big to me is that there are so many nasty things in the vaccines, such as tissues from animals, fermeldahyde, mercury (although not much anymore) and I have even read tissues from foreskin! YUCK! One more big reason I usually give is that the human body is not usually sunjected to so many diseases at on time, so why give so many vaccines at one time? The baby's immune system is so fagile and needs to be built up, not overlaiden with chemicals to give it a false sense of protection.

There are many websites out there to give some great info. Mercola, mothering, and on those sites they have lots of links as well.

I get frustrated with all the comments and judgements too. Sorry this wasn't super helpful, but hope you can find the info you are looking for.

coco
03-03-2008, 08:27 AM
pick up a copy of The Vaccine Guide by Randall Neustaedter if you can, it's written by a medical doctor and has a very unbiased review of vaccines, side effects, ingredients, alternatives, efficiency rates, etc. it's enough to convince even a sceptic, provided they have an open mind about it in the first place.

http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Guide-Benefits-Children-Adults/dp/1556434235

Raene
03-03-2008, 09:10 AM
This is an AMAZING lecture:

[url]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/2/14/why-vaccines-aren-t-safe.aspx[url]

Good luck. I really regret even doing partial vax with my daughter after she suffered a severe reaction to the polio vax. I'd never go that route again, but that's just me. Only you know what's right for your kids.

shakti17
03-03-2008, 09:17 AM
i didnt vaccinate my little guy....that stuff is poison imo.

yes - i indicated to family i d do it "later"

i think in other countries, like europe, they dont vaccinate until later - like 3 or school age....

i question anything that is a billion dollar industry.

my guy s never sick - happy and healthy!

you are making the right choice - follow your own inner wisdom and you wont have regrets.

s

MiahTay
03-06-2008, 08:56 AM
Check these out:

http://www.ccid.org/addviruses/sv40.htm

http://www.geocities.com/titus2birthing/VacProLife.html

Heather

BTW, my children are 11 and almost 9 and have never even had to take antibiotics in their life.

EmJo
03-11-2008, 10:38 AM
Vaccines compromise the immune system. Change the DNA. Are linked to autism and ADHD--and let's not forget death.

Whenever a disease outbreak occurs, the likelihood of contracting the disease is much higher for a child vaccinated against the disease than for an unvaccinated one.

There has never been a single scientific study done to show that vaccines work.

Bottom line, vaccines are much more dangerous than they are benign, and are just another ploy to put $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ into the pockets of Big Pharmaceutical.

If you want to watch a 2-1/2 hour video about the dangers of vaccines--full of FACTS and RESEARCH study results--let me know and I'll post the link.

Suz58
03-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Well done for taking a bit step. Stand your ground, you are doing a great thing for your little one. Immune systems are designed to help our bodies, they just don't need to be compromised with vaccines and all the rubbish that is added to them!

Raspberry4
03-23-2008, 04:19 AM
Our school system requires showing proof of vaccination. How do you get around that if you choose not to vaccinate? Anyone know????

Raene
03-23-2008, 07:52 AM
It really depends on your state b/c they all differ, but for us we claim religious exemptions even though we actually aren't really religious. They don't check into it too much.

EmJo
03-25-2008, 09:22 AM
Our school system requires showing proof of vaccination. How do you get around that if you choose not to vaccinate? Anyone know????

What PP said, and make sure you are firm w/ school nurse and administrators that it is in within your rights not to vaccinate your children as long as you follow state guidelines.

unbent
04-14-2008, 12:18 PM
Our school system requires showing proof of vaccination. How do you get around that if you choose not to vaccinate? Anyone know????


If you go to the link that Raene put up at mercola.com the woman doing the lecture mentions several websites you can go to. Sorry I don't recall what they were. They will let you know which states require and don't require vaccinations and allow exemption. She also offers to help you 'inform' your school of your rights, assuming your state allows exemptions, if need be. I would start there. Unfortunately, even though I live in a state that allows exemption (Michigan) I did not know what I know now when they were being vaccinated. My 19 year old son has A.D.D., is BiPolar and has Oppositional Defiant Disorder along with Depression, Asthma and Allergies. Most of which were most likely at least kickstarted by childhood immunizations. Hope this helps.


Andy

Andy

Raw Angel Mom
04-14-2008, 02:51 PM
You can get hemeo pathic vaccine. I might consider this.

I haven't persue vaccination either. I got the first set and my daughter just started to go nuts for 9 days right after the vaccine. I did research and decided to back up for good. The best decision that i made. She is great and recover quickly if she catches anything, you barely notice that she has any cold.

Many pressure us but i tell them about the poison that they contain and the risk for Austimes. You will find many sad story about the vaccine.

If they can sign me a waver that they promise there is 0% risk regardless that they contain a huge list of dangerous chemical and mercury and this won't affect my child by any mean then maybe i will consider.

I beleive in vaccine but surely not the ones that are on the market and aren't chemical free.

Congratulations for standing your ground.

iamacranberry
04-14-2008, 03:15 PM
Vaccines have been effective tools in reducing the number of cases of many modern, clinically-identified diseases; however, their use even to protect society does in fact put a small percentage of individual users at risk for other diseases.

First of all, the link of vaccines to autism is a very tenuous one, and there are other things about vaccines which are more valid concerns. Take for example thimerosol, which is a mercury-based preservative used in many childhood vaccines. The dosage given exposes the patient to higher than recommended levels of mercury and puts him or her at a risk for mercury toxicity, which is very difficult to remove from the body completely. In other situations in volving mercury, nowhere near the levels used in vaccines are permitted.

Yes, Big Pharma is corrupt and wants largely to make money off of the vaccines and from medications. But, the vaccines are actually effective. Yes, there have been a few cases here and there in which vaccines have been defective or where the vaccines have led to serious side effects. The other alternative, which I think many people turn a blind eye to, is the potential pandemic of disease that these vaccines play a large role in preventing. Many of these diseases are serious and debilitating and have permanent, irreversible side effects.

But on the other hand, there is no good answer for what to say to the thousands of families whose children have been victims of the rare but harmful side effects of some vaccines. But let's look at it in the long run: Our choices are to allow the spread of a pandemic or know that inevitably a few children will end up with serious side effects of vaccinations.

It's not a perfect answer, but this is not a perfect world. We could, however, do to replace the dangerous thimerosol with a different type of preservative.

domestic goddess
05-09-2008, 08:57 AM
Um...OK.

I chose not to vax as we have a history on both sides of autoimmune disorders (me and dh) and according to some studies children with an increased risk for autoimmune disorders are more likely to have vax reactions. Not to mention, my DOCTOR told me there is a 0-4% chance my child will get the diseases vax's are meant to prevent while there is a 30% chance he/she could have a reaction! AND there was just an outbreak last year in WA whereby 16 kids came down with measles...12 of them were vax'd!

Pandemic? Sorry, that sounds like a scare tactic to me.

OP, I would say, based on my experience that if you choose not to vax, keep it to yourself. If you know you will get heat from your family, best to not mention it. Unless someone asks, no need to offer the info. It is really your decision, and one you need to be comfortable with. :)

Thick
06-04-2008, 11:24 PM
I also have a son with add, occasional astha and allegies that I believe to have been brought about by his full round of vaccinations. My other children have not been vaccinated.

It has occured to me that perhaps the vacinations were known to cause illnesses that would bring the drug companies even more profit... ridalin for example...

This is how you deal with the school/daycare. Call a midwife in your area and ask her if she knows of a pediatrician who does not require a vaccination schedule. Then go see him/her and get her to fill out an exemption form based on religious preferences. And, stay with this pediatrician as she will ost likely not prescribe antibiotics for anything viral and be more up to date on child health--and relaxed about raw food as well.

Kindermama
06-05-2008, 12:38 AM
Here is a vax refusal form.... read through it- very interesting!

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/4172/VacRefuse.html

I just can't get over the aborted fetal cells used in manufacturing.... yuck
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2002/aug/02081603.html

A good article
http://www.nvic.org/Loe_Fisher/wakeofvaccines.htm