ok olive oil experts some questions???

[ksabe98]

Hi all hope you are all well.
Ok here is my question first is Bariani the only raw olive oil available or is any first cold pressed organic olive oil ok? And second I want to take this oil with me in my purse in a smallish container to put on my veggies and salads when I am dining al fresco of the house. I am having a hard time finding a container that will not leak any good suggestions?
Thanks a lovely day 6 for me.
Lisa

[VeganVixen]

Well , I dont know if bariani is the ONLY raw oil ,but what I usually do is use a good quality cold presses extra virgin organic oil in a DARK container , it seems to be fine.

about the containers have you thought about small mason jars ? also maybe if you get a small jar or bottle of mustard and use that ,they can be no-spill reliable.

[ksabe98]

thank you that is a good idea. They sell small picnic size ones at cost plus. I didn't think of that. I just don't want something so big or leaky. I am trying to be not so conspicuous. As it is it takes like 5 minutes to order what I want these days and they still seem to do it wrong. oh well at least there are alot of places that start with salads and raw veggies that are willing to accomodate.
Lisa

[rawpriestess]

Hi,

I use living tree olive oil, as far as I know, IT is the ONLY raw olive oil, because it is ground slooooowwwwwwwllllllyyy, so it does not reach above 105 degrees, bariani is supposed to be cold pressed, but can reach 280 degrees in processing.

I could be wrong, but this is what I've heard.

Sooooooo, you might want to ask them
www.livingtree.com

they also have the most wonderful black sesame tahini in the world, and butter of paradice a truly magnificent nut butter spread, yum.

anyway hope this helps.

as far as a container, I would consider using a glass container and a rubber sealing top, that twists.

I would NOT use plasic, or tupperware, or rubbermaid etc, as it can leach the oils, throught the seals,

What I do, is I used a small glass bottle with a rubber seal in the lid, and I then place it inside TWO small zip lock baggies, so far it has never leaded, but if it did, I'm protected.

Also, I keep it in a small cooler, as I don't carry a purse, so I don't have to worry about it leaking on anything that might be ruined by the oils.

Good luck.

[vegangelist]

2 things:

for those interested, the website is actually www.livingtreecommunity.com

and, i use an olive oil that i found at whole foods. it is by napa valley organics. they have 2 varieties (at least at my WF)-regular and a more robust version. the packaging says right on it that the oil does not reach temp. above 98degrees. SO, i am taking them at that and using it. It is basically about the same price as the WF brand organic olive oil...so, more affordable than olive oil at 30 bucks a bottle (for those that grow faint at such a price!) :)

kristi

[tracyinfo]

Kristi, I find the same brand (Napa valley Organics) at where I shop. I also think they are much more affordable olive oils. They taste delicious.


2 things:

for those interested, the website is actually www.livingtreecommunity.com

and, i use an olive oil that i found at whole foods. it is by napa valley organics. they have 2 varieties (at least at my WF)-regular and a more robust version. the packaging says right on it that the oil does not reach temp. above 98degrees. SO, i am taking them at that and using it. It is basically about the same price as the WF brand organic olive oil...so, more affordable than olive oil at 30 bucks a bottle (for those that grow faint at such a price!) :)

kristi

[RawTruth]

RP, I don't know where you got the info on Bariani's, but the person I buy it from states the opposite. He deals with them directly, sells only truly raw products, and will pick up the phone, make the contact and let me talk to the manufacturer myself if I still doubt him. So, I would assure anyone who buys it that it is definitely raw.

When I was first investigating "cold-pressed", I was surprised and dismayed to learn what it really means. Here is what Rhio says in Hooked on Raw:

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What Should Cold-Pressed Really Mean?
When you go to the health food store and look in the oils section, you may see a lot of oils labeled as cold-pressed. But most, if not all, of those oils are not really cold-pressed. Cold-pressed should mean that the oil was extracted in such a way that it was not subjected to heat, and additionally, that heat was not generated in the process of the oil being extracted. If a little heat is generated, it should be below the temperature at which the value of the oil is destraoyed. Genuinely cold pressed oils have all their nutritional value intact, including enzymes, omega 3's and 6's, and other known and unknown factors. These oils must be refrigerated to preserve their freshness.

In Practice, What Does Cold-Pressed Mean?
Most cold-pressed oils have been heat treated. Seeds that are going to be mechanically pressed are usually cooked first to increase their yield. This means they are heated to 248 degrees F for up to two hours. This process cracks the seed, exposing the oils to air and light, which cause oxidation. The oil is then extracted by squeezing the cooked seeds with screw presses, which generate heat again (approximately 185 degrees to 203 degrees F). These oils are sold as unrefined, but, as you can see, they have gone through at least two heat processes, which destroyed their nutritional value. Such heated oils are detrimental to your health because most of their fatty acids have been converted from the natural cis fatty acid form (present in unheated oil) to trans fatty acids, which are toxic and have been implicated as a causative factor in heart disease and cancer.

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If you don't have Rhio's book, I very strongly recommend it. She is truly an original and has researched all of the facts in it herself. She does not accept "common wisdom" in the raw world ... and does not simply repeat what she's heard or read. I consider her the very best resource. For those newbies who don't know, she's studied at the well-established raw health centers and created the raw food hotline in New York years ago. She is a persistent researcher, which I love, because I don't have to be, yet I can emulate her and do contact manufacturers myself, knowing from her what questions to ask.

By the way, I now buy my olive oil at my local farmers' market, directly from the man who presses the olives.

[ksabe98]

raw truth what farmers market are you going to. I see you are in So. Cal. I am in the san fernando valley specifically studio city. Also what vendor are you getting it from and how much is it? Do you have any contact information for them? you could pm me with it if you do if they do not allow us to publish this information. Thanks so much
Lisa

[pineapple]

Rawtruth,
Thank you for the information. :)

You know I also keep wondering if raw coconut oil is really raw. I used to make coconut oil myself. But I could only release the oil by making coconut milk and then cook the milk untill the oil would seperate from the fluid. So, I just wonder how anyone can make raw coconut oil. :confused:

Pineapple.

[levamssg]

I use the Napa Valley organic olive oil too. Nice flavour and decent price.

As far as a container to carry oil - I use a small brown essential oil bottle - works great. I do keep it in a small zip lock baggie tho, just in case.

[vegangelist]

At tropicaltraditions.com they explain how they make their different coconut oils (both expeller pressed and virgin oil). they have a lot of information. i believe that the oil is raw. however, their coconut flakes and the creamed coconut (includes not just the oil but the blended meat included) are NOT raw. I emailed them about this specifically and they said that both of those products are heated above 150. they do have some other organic products (cleaning products, spices, oil, etc..)

kristi

[RawTruth]

raw truth what farmers market are you going to. I see you are in So. Cal. I am in the san fernando valley specifically studio city. Also what vendor are you getting it from and how much is it? Do you have any contact information for them? you could pm me with it if you do if they do not allow us to publish this information. Thanks so much
LisaHey Lisa! I'm in Long Beach. It's Adam's Ranch Olives. The phone number is 559-562-2882 in case you want to call to find out if he's at a farmers' market near you. Oh ... the one I bought is Mission Olive Oil (very flavorful -- he uses different olives for different tastes) at $11.95 for 16 oz. I also buy his olives - Dried Olives which are just olives, olive oil & celtic sea salt. They're $6.95 for 13 oz. -- a tall jar that lasts me a looong time. Huh. That's weird -- on the olive bottle, the phone number is different: 209-568-2626. Well, I guess now you have two numbers to try!
:eek:

Good luck.

[RawTruth]

Rawtruth,
Thank you for the information. :)

You know I also keep wondering if raw coconut oil is really raw. I used to make coconut oil myself. But I could only release the oil by making coconut milk and then cook the milk untill the oil would seperate from the fluid. So, I just wonder how anyone can make raw coconut oil. :confused:

Pineapple.The Virgin Oil De Coco-Creme (TM) is! I buy mine locally, but Alissa sells it on her site. You can check out some info about it at the site below (thought you need to poke around the website to find out how they "process" it):

http://www.qualityfirst.on.ca/CVO.htm

Best wishes.

[rawpriestess]

Dear Vegangelist, thanks for correcting my incorrect website address.

Thank goodness someone can read.

And yes, it is VERY expensive, the big bottle is $100 for 3 bottles, this is how I usually buy it, in the quarter case, I actually split it with 3 other people.

But the flavor and texture is sublime. yummmmmmm

If you are an olive oil coneseur (sp?) then you know what I mean, is yours also super smoooooth, and highly flavorful? I might just try the brand you suggested, if it is.

I'm always up for a new treat, especially if it tastes as good as the one I'm using currently.

[podol]

Most of you are buying the brand name. I buy DaVinchi. $9/litre or $5/litre on sale. It is extra virgin cold press.
Lisa as far as small container to take olive oil, you can buy a smaller bottle, use it and then pour from smaller bottle. You can place couple cloves of garlic in the small bottle and live overnight. Tha aroma is delicious.
Coconut oil is very tasty and smells great in salads. I buy in the local Indian store. Brand Laxmi. $5/quart. Very good quality.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I haven't read all the replies yet, but this is something I've done to keep salad dressing in while traveling:

I took a small glass vanilla extract bottle and washed it out very well. The screw top lid is pretty leak proof (a zip lock baggie's a good back-up though). Those little extract bottles are perfect. You also might be able to find some tincture bottles at your health food store, possibly.

[rawgrrl]

I haven't tried it yet, but someone recommended Tahema to me. I've googled it and haven't found a whole lot of info or distributors, though.