View Full Version : Third time sick in four months...please help me.
01-31-2008, 06:47 PM
I went raw on Sept 24th, and since then I've been sick THREE times in the past four months!!! I'm on my "first day" of my third sickness, and I feel awful. Before I went raw, I would get sick three times a year, and now my dad is threatening to make me "eat like a normal person" if I "can't take care of myself."
I thought you never got sick on raw? Why is this happening? I haven't gone back to SAD, not ONCE! I feel so awful, will someone please explain this to me and give me advice on a) how to prevent it and b) how to get better. Since it's in its early stages (as in I'm feeling myself just starting to get sick) what can I do to prevent myself from getting worse? I'm sorry for being so needy, I'm just really, REALLY upset by this. Thank you so much.
01-31-2008, 07:06 PM
I think we need more details. What's going on? What does "sick" mean? What and how are you feeling?
01-31-2008, 07:06 PM
i feel your pain. i've been getting sick a lot lately, too.
the only thing i could recommend is fasting with any initial signs of sickness, it always helps me ward it off. also, just maybe try taking some supplementing different herbal remedies, depending on what the illness is. i like to take goldenseal.
i hope you feel better!!
01-31-2008, 07:25 PM
I too would need more details about what you mean by getting "sick".
But I have a few thoughts. One could be that you are eating something you are allergic to. I was chronically sick all my life. Either sick to my stomach or with respiratory infections. I seemed to catch every cold that went around and the flu a couple of times a year. Then at age 46 I was diagnosed with food allergies. Suddenly I was no longer getting respiratory infections. But I was still sick to my stomach sometimes (another cause, gastroparesis was found).
Then this past year, a full 2 years later, I noticed that I hadn't had a single cold. I did get the flu though and so did daughter. She hasn't had any colds either. So apparently if you do have food allergies it can take a while to get everything out of your system.
Two of the things I am allergic to are not things eaten on a vegan diet. But I am allergic to almonds so I do have to be careful since so many recipes and prepared raw foods do contain almonds.
Another possibility is that you are getting some form of food poisoning from the raw food. I don't know the particulars of your diet. I just read an article about how a common cause of food poisoning is salad bars because people spread their germs and things to the raw food. If you think this is the case, it might be best to prepare the food yourself and wash fruits and vegetables well before eating them.
I suppose a third possibility is detox. And another possibilty is dealing with the public. When you go to school or work with the public, you are subjecting yourself to all of their germs. I decided to quit volunteering at my daughter's school because I seemed to be getting everything that was going around.
01-31-2008, 07:50 PM
Thank you all SO much for responding so quickly! I cannot even begin to express my gratitude for the support I receive on this forum <3
Revvell - This time around I think it's a headcold. I feel incredibly tired, headachey and sniffly.
Earth-sista - Yes, I am taking herbal supplements (Amazon Herbs)
Juliebove - I'm a little bit confused by your post. Do you mean I'm currently including something in my diet to which I am allergic, or that I'm getting rid of something I used to eat to which I was allergic? Because from age 6 to the end of my 14th year I drank cow's milk and ate A LOT of cheese. Recently, I've had tests done to show that I am allergic to cheese. So does that mean this is detox? Whenever I used to eat cheese I got really mucusy, and for the past month I've been coughing up the icky stuff.
I do take the bus about eight times a week (although not recently, as I haven't been to work for the past week due to finals) and I've been under a lot of school-related stress. That could have weakened my immune system, I guess, but as I said before I was under the impression that raw prevented you from getting ill.
I'm sorry for my lengthy post!
01-31-2008, 08:19 PM
You may need to undertake a detoxing program, like the Master Cleanse. Or try colonics. Toxins may be building up in your colon, and a colonic would cure that right up. I have been raw for 7 months, and around the 6th month, I came down with a horrible fever. I did a colonic, and it was gone within 20 minutes. I would say this is detox you are experiencing.
01-31-2008, 08:20 PM
Here's a suggestion ~ google "detox (or detoxification) symptoms". You'll probably find that everything you are experiencing can be found there.
You say "this third time around" ... what were the first two? So far, sounds like pure detoxification.
01-31-2008, 08:30 PM
That is an unfortunate misconception that when you eat raw, you never get "sick" (or go through cleansing and detox).
Cold symptoms are nothing more than the body doing it's job of cleaning out the respiratory system. If you are taking public transportation then you are being exposed to a great deal of things and because you're raw, your body is working overtime to keep cleansing itself of whatever foreign matter is entering into your body 1. through the fumes of that bus 2. the "germs" from other people and their possible sicknesses 3. any other environmental elements that are at play here.
When we eat SAD, yes, we get colds and all but sometimes too what can happen is, our organs are so overtaxed and so bogged down and our digesstive system so backed/clogged up, they may have their bodies go through a cleansing crisis in other much WORST ways i.e. diseases.
Colds can be looked at in both a positive and a negative light...negative when we KNOW our system is all jacked up and we're just overburdening our organs and then we just get sick from that - positive when we KNOW we are eating healthy and cleanly and our bodies are either detoxing and this detox can be from past eating habits, medications, etc. OR it can be from CURRENT things we're exposed to NOW such as environmental elements, mold spores, pollution, pesticides, etc. See, I am of the firm belief that our bodies are EVER detoxing...if not from our past, from current things as I just previously mentioned.
And yes, stress can be a major factor as well!
Just keep in mind that diet/food is only a PART of the equation when it comes to health and wellness - an important part, but just a part, just the same!
01-31-2008, 08:31 PM
I just want to say I hope you feel much better very soon!!!
01-31-2008, 08:39 PM
I would like to think it is some form of detox. Do you drink Green Smoothies?
01-31-2008, 08:41 PM
Revvell - Last time I had a very high fever of about 102 or 103 degrees. I'm pretty sure I had the flu as I felt very weak, hot and cold at the same time, didn't have an appetite (VERY unusual for me!) etc. I also had an EXTREMELY sore throat that might have been bronchitis...I'm not quite sure. The first time I think was just a bad cold
Rawkinlocs - That was SO informative, I never thought of things that way! But try explaining to your practically carnivore father that your "sickness" is actually making you BETTER and that NO you're not going to take Tylenol or Advil! *slaps forehead*
shashibala - THANK YOU! :)
Docsharp - No, not on a regular basis. I just don't have the time in the morning, as I wake up very early as it is. I would have to clean the blender after making them, which would take about ten minutes (VitaMixes are so high-maintenance, but I love them anyway :D !)
01-31-2008, 09:06 PM
Ohhh...I didn't realize until looking at your profile that you're a minor. I was going to say, "Gee, who cares what your father says/thinks?" but I see now that you are a teen at home! Okay...yeah, that kinda makes things a bit different because you are still in your folks care.
Well, I'm not sure what you could or even should tell daddy...sometimes when you're a kid living at home, you have to kinda play by the rules with some stuff...so do you take the meds or eat the "normal" food...which is the "lesser of two evils"? Tough one when you're still at home and you're not an adult. I'm sorry...I don't really know what to tell you at this point. But I also hope you're feeling better soon and maybe if you got some kind of literature that your dad could read about detox/cleansing that maybe he just may be open to receiving it! You never know!
01-31-2008, 09:08 PM
Yeah, luckily my parents are divorced! Heh, I know that sounds odd, but my mother is VERY into holistic healing and the like, so I'm able to take the good stuff here. I've tried getting him into it before, but he said "we aren't witches making a potion" :eek: Ever since then I just haven't brought it up...sigh.
01-31-2008, 09:33 PM
It's possible that you could still be detoxing from the dairy. For my daughter and I, we got really sick at about the 2 week mark and then got better. But the time frame could be different.
I was actually thinking that perhaps there was something you might be eating now that you didn't eat before that you are allergic to. Did you add anything new to your diet? Or are you eating more of something? For me, if I didn't know about the almond allergy I am thinking a raw diet might make me really sick.
01-31-2008, 09:34 PM
I can't really think of anything...I have been eating more salads lately, but that can't possibly be it O.O
When my mum gets home, I'll have her do a specific food allergy test using her quantum machine. Thanks for the heads-up!
01-31-2008, 10:39 PM
Revvell - Last time I had a very high fever of about 102 or 103 degrees. I'm pretty sure I had the flu as I felt very weak, hot and cold at the same time, didn't have an appetite (VERY unusual for me!) etc. I also had an EXTREMELY sore throat that might have been bronchitis...I'm not quite sure. The first time I think was just a bad coldm
Please, google "detox". All the names you are giving to symptoms are symptoms of detoxification.
I would have to clean the blender after making them, which would take about ten minutes (VitaMixes are so high-maintenance, but I love them anyway :D !)
Actually, they aren't. I can make a smoothie AND clean the blender well w/in 10 minutes. A VM is one of the EASIEST appliances to clean.
01-31-2008, 10:53 PM
Really? Maybe I'm just going about it wrong. And I'm sorry for my helplessness, I'm still getting used to this. Thank you so, so much.
EDIT: OH WOW. I just realised the last time I got sick was EXACTLY a month ago. I remember because it was New Year's Eve. Whoa, I wonder if that means anything. And I've a fever now, lovely.
02-01-2008, 12:03 AM
i notice that i detox more around that time of the month. i assume that has something to do with shedding inside crap and i was on birth contro for YEARS, but have been off of it for 6 months if not a little longer. so you might want to journal what you have been eating daily, your feelings, thoughts, the way your body feels, symptoms, weight and measurements too if you want, etc etc and see what corresponds with one another. i have been doing this for a few months now and can definitely say that it helps. you get to see if your body is developing a pattern of releasing, sy,ptoms if you eat anything, etc. so it is a great way to learn about your body and what it needs. keep a piece of paper and pen with you and just try to write down what you eat, approx time too if you want and how it makes you feel. i hope you feel better and good luck with finding a resolution betweeen you and your dad.
02-02-2008, 12:07 PM
WOW. WOW. I have an update for everyone, and I think you'll find this pretty interesting!
Well, I've gotten worse, I have a fever of 103 and I fainted 3 times in a succession of about 5 minutes! Fun, right? So I asked my mother to run the quantum session on me, and guess what showed up...
Yup, that's right. You all knew exactly what you were talking about :D
So the quantum healing session said that the problem was I was detoxing too quickly....does anyone have suggestions to remedy this?
02-02-2008, 12:21 PM
To help the detox along?Drink plenty of water to wash out toxins and eat plenty of raw high fiber foods to wisk out toxins.
02-02-2008, 02:07 PM
lots of green smoothies... heavy on the green!!!
get more sleep than you really need and be gentle and loving to yourself. attempt to keep your stress level down by being mindful (focusing on your breath when you get stressed and don't allow yourself to become emotionally attached to your thoughts... just let them come into your mind, thank them and let them float away)
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