Bitter honey tangerine juice

[raweater]

My local grocery was out of organic oranges, so I decided to try a few non organic varieties. I got regular california oranges, honey tangerines, and blood oranges.

I just made a large glass of juice with honey tangerines in my new Green Star juicer, and this juice is extremely bitter, I actually think I'm going to toss out the 650 ml I made, it's that bad!

One thing that just came to mind, could the bitterness be coming from the seeds that are also getting juiced? I know fruit seeds have the very powerful anti cancer vitamin B17 which tastes very bitter. I don't remove the seeds of my oranges and they aren't bitter out of my Green Star, yet not quite as sweet as hand pressed, so perhaps there is a bit of bitterness in the orange juice that's barely noticeable.

So is it the seeds? I didn't even taste the tangerines as is so I have no idea what they taste like.

Should seeds be removed befor using a Green Star juicer? In my centrifugal Breville it would just toss the pits in the pulp bin, but the Green Star juices the seeds as well (they come out all crushed).

Thanks

[raweater]

Well I tried but it really was undrinkable, I poured it down the drain! Now I really want to find the cause so this never happens again. I still have one of those tangerines left, so I'll try to remove the seeds before juicing it and see if that was the cause, I'll also taste a peice as is so I know what the original taste is.

If it tastes normal unjuiced, then I can't see what other than vitamin B17 from the seeds would be making it so bitter.

[raweater]

OK, I tried to just eat the last one. The flesh was very sweet, and I did eat a seed and chew on it and EWWW, that's a LOT of vitamin B17 in there! SO the seeds are where the bitterness is coming from.

Is there an easy easy way to deseed oranges? Well as I said the regualr oranges where great, so perhaps I should leave the seeds to at least get a bit of vitamin B17 (it's essential for cancer prevention and is almost only found in certain seeds, see the video on video.google.com called "World Without Cancer").

Now I almost wish this juicer wasn't THAT effecient, when it can manage to extract so much out of the SEEDS, that's because it's efficient. My Breville just tossed the seeds in the pulp bin.

So why do honey tangerines have so much more seeds and/or vitamin B17? My orange juices from the Green Star have no noticeable bitterness at all, only a slight lack of sweetness, possibly caused by a bit of vitamin B17 getting into it, but if it's enough to get benefits and not enough to make it bitter, I'm fine with that, but I'll try a deseeded orange also to see the difference.

[maui_butterfly]

i don't have a nice juicer, but i do have one of those electric citrus juicer things... very inexpensive, filters out the seeds automatically, and i can whip up a glass of juice lickety split!

sounds quicker/easier than deseeding the things...

[pan.droid]

raweater

Odd, I have always read that the nicer juicers usually suck at juicing citrus; was your pulp very dry?

Anyway - like maui said - perhaps you should consider just a manual citrus juicer of some design as they will not pulverize the seeds into the juice and are cheap, depending.

I don't know.

Non-organic withstanding, I would actually rather eat the entire fruit than discard all that pulp and rind - there is a lot of good to be taken in from the rind; I think a lot of the B17 you mentioned may be in there, too.

Peace,

Pan.Droid

[rawfoodmommy#1]

I have a $20.00 citrus juicer and I like it very much. The juice comes out sweet and I still get all the fiber from the pulp. Of coarse eating peeled whole orange is very good but sometimes I want the juice and don't want to peel the orange. My baby is drinking orange juice with me and he loves it.

[raweater]

i don't have a nice juicer, but i do have one of those electric citrus juicer things... very inexpensive, filters out the seeds automatically, and i can whip up a glass of juice lickety split!

sounds quicker/easier than deseeding the things...

I get over 100% more juice with the green star than even a professional restaurant grade citrues press. I'd be throwing half my money out the window by juicing citrus in a citrus juicer, it's well worth the 3 minute clean up to get more than twice as much juice (2-3 oranges fill my huge glass with the green star, I need 4-6 if I press them manually).

pandroid: I did read the omega was bad for citrus/soft fruits. I ordered the Green Star with the optional soft fruit adapters kit, this is a different coarser screen and a much lower pressure adjustment knob to adjust the juice extraction pressure. These are for things like citrus, tomatoes, etc. I actually just use the lower pressure fruit knob but with the same regular screen, the coarse one leaves too much pulp for my liking (it's purpose is to provide more pulp in the juice for those who want it). The high pressure knob is for things like carrots and wheatgrass where the pulp must be squeezed under much higher pressures than orange pulp, obviously.

My Green Star juices citrus fruits GREAT, the pulp comes out VERY dry and I get A LOT of juice, I wouldn't use the green star for citrus if it didn't extract this much more juice. In fact I had read a comparison of the green star VS professional restaurant citrus press and the green star got more than double the juice out of the fruits!

I've been making 1-2 citrus juices daily with it since I got it Monday.