Using raw oats

[rawererin]

Is this safe for cookies? I found a couple of great recipes that I would love to try...

[subbacultcha]

Yep, but if you're thinking of rolled oats you had in your cupboard anyway, they're probably not raw. Nearly all oats are steamed unless it says otherwise :rolleyes:

I don't worry too much about a few steamed oats if I don't have oat groats though...

[rawstrength]

Are all oat groats raw, or does it specifically have to say "raw" oat groats on the package?
I have some oat groats, which I enjoy soaking, blending with honey and cinnamon and eating for breakfast on occasion, but they're just normal oat groats that I bought from whole foods.
They don't sprout. Do any oat groats (even truly raw ones) sprout?

[pan.droid]

Are all oat groats raw, or does it specifically have to say "raw" oat groats on the package?
I have some oat groats, which I enjoy soaking, blending with honey and cinnamon and eating for breakfast on occasion, but they're just normal oat groats that I bought from whole foods.
They don't sprout. Do any oat groats (even truly raw ones) sprout?

I know that I've been able to sprout buckwheat to make cereal before. It is def. one of the more starchy cereal grains. Perhaps you could sprout a bunch of it, dehydrate it, and then grind it up into a powder. I did enjoy the flavor...

Good luck,

Pan.Droid

[raweater]

As I just posted in another thread, I thought it would be worth mentioning here also for those who aren't already aware:

Not to dissapoint you, but please consider the serious negative health impacts of grains. They do not belong in a human diet, they are made for birds. There is lots of research showing the damage grains cause when consumed regularly by humans (diabetes, cancer, heart disease, obesity, etc.). One of the reasons most cats and dogs have diabetes is because pet food makers use rice as the main ingredient to save money while making pets sick with foods that don't belong in their diet.

I also feel my health take a huge plunge whenever I eat grains, as they have the same effect as white sugar (grains are about 80% sugar, have many natural toxins, carcinogens and anti nutrients, and are often contaminated with molds). Many of my raw recipe books also explain why grains should be avoided at all cost, and sprouted grains may be eaten with great moderation, in very small amounts, as they still have lots of health problems.

www.mercola.com has lots of great info on why we should not consume grains and the damage they cause.

[rawstrength]

I know that I've been able to sprout buckwheat to make cereal before. It is def. one of the more starchy cereal grains. Perhaps you could sprout a bunch of it, dehydrate it, and then grind it up into a powder. I did enjoy the flavor...

Good luck,

Pan.Droid

Buckwheat is a different species than oat groats. Buckwheat is not even a grain, it's an herb.
I'd actually prefer to use buck wheat, but I've avoided buying it so far as I have a huge batch of oat groats that I have to use up. Though I'll eat them anyway, I'd like to know if they are truly raw or not so I'll know whether to buy them again in the future.

[pan.droid]

Buckwheat is a different species than oat groats. Buckwheat is not even a grain, it's an herb.
I'd actually prefer to use buck wheat, but I've avoided buying it so far as I have a huge batch of oat groats that I have to use up. Though I'll eat them anyway, I'd like to know if they are truly raw or not so I'll know whether to buy them again in the future.

I'm sorry, I didn't claim that Buckwheat was an oat grain or any species of wheat. My point was that Buckwheat grains might make a good flour substitute AND they sprout, and are GLUTEN FREE. From reading the Wiki on Buckwheat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat), it looks like it may be the basis of a good raw flour, provided it is soaked first. It says that the Japanese were able to pull of making a noodle out of a Buckwheat derived flour - although it doesn't go into exactly how the flour was made, which it probably immaterial to us living foodies anyway.

Peace,

Pan.Droid

[pan.droid]

As I just posted in another thread, I thought it would be worth mentioning here also for those who aren't already aware:

Not to dissapoint you, but please consider the serious negative health impacts of grains. They do not belong in a human diet, they are made for birds. There is lots of research showing the damage grains cause when consumed regularly by humans (diabetes, cancer, heart disease, obesity, etc.). One of the reasons most cats and dogs have diabetes is because pet food makers use rice as the main ingredient to save money while making pets sick with foods that don't belong in their diet.

I also feel my health take a huge plunge whenever I eat grains, as they have the same effect as white sugar (grains are about 80% sugar, have many natural toxins, carcinogens and anti nutrients, and are often contaminated with molds). Many of my raw recipe books also explain why grains should be avoided at all cost, and sprouted grains may be eaten with great moderation, in very small amounts, as they still have lots of health problems.

www.mercola.com has lots of great info on why we should not consume grains and the damage they cause.


Responses to your post in that other thread:


From www.mercola.com :
In short, we are consuming far too much bread, cereal, pasta, corn (a grain, not a vegetable), rice, potatoes and Little Debbie snack cakes, with very grave consequences to our health. Making matters worse, most of these carbohydrates we consume come in the form of processed food.

www.mercola.com claims that grains were only added to the human diet about 10,000 years ago, and thus are not evoluntionarily fit for human consumption. Thus, grains cause many of the ailments of modern society.

I believe the problems with obesity, diabetes etc. are from large amounts of concentrated grain in processed, chemical laden, non-whole grain foods such as "little debbie snack cakes." Small amounts of grains that were minimally processed (perhaps even sprouted during storage by nature) were eaten by hunter-gatherers. Sprouted grains are also more like vegetables than grains, as they contain a whole minature plant with roots. I see no harm in incorporating small amounts of sprouted grains into a raw food diet. Little Debbie snack cakes and cooked whole-wheat, toxic-sodium-benzoate-laced bread, on the other hand, can cause problems, especially as most cooked food eaters base their diets around grains and eat the same grains (mostly wheat and corn) at every meal, causing allergies to develop and poor nutrition.
The problem with grains is that they are over-processed and eaten in excess. Otherwise they are fine. That said, they are not necessary for a healthy diet, just a nice addition.


Are you talking cooked grains? I think that there is more nasty stuff to pet food than rice (meat, cooked fats, GMOs, emulsifiers, artificial flavors, food coloring, pesticides, hormones, etc.) and that most information about grains is about cooked grains (though I concede that people eat far too many of them and they should never be eaten unsprouted).

To be fair, raweater is pretty much right on, but I still think that the stuff can be alright in moderation, just so long as it is sprouted. Of course, though, if you feel your health take a plunge every time you eat it and you are eating it raw, sprouted and in moderation maybe you have some sort of aversion to it... a malady or intolerance that others don't have?? Don't get me wrong; I don't really eat wheat grains and wouldn't know where to begin sprouting them, either (although - obviously - there is a way). I am beginning to advocate Buckwheat, as it is gluten free and somewhat starchy which seems necessary to hold everything together in a raw cookie recipe, though I could be wrong about this, too.

Peace,

Pan.Droid

[raweater]

Pan.Droid: I also think in moderation it's not too bad. In fact it may surprise you due to how violently I went against grains, but I actually do consume some every now and then, but very rarely, maybe once a week at the most.

[deberaw]

what??? Raweater You eat grains maybe once a week????!!! Now that does surprise me!;) hee-hee!!!

[Zuri]

I don't think some oat groats are raw; they're steamed. I contacted an online supplier and asked him and this is what he told me. Yup, moderation is key. I have a taste for some oatmeal cookies and will be partaking very soon. :D