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06-03-2005, 05:04 PM
Not sure what to do about this. Very difficult situation I keep comming up against. I have been trying to go raw for about 3 months now but have been unsuccessful. I eat well, just vegtables for a day or two (I take pills to kill parasites and yeast too) but whenever I go do on the first or second day I feel an uncontrolable urge to eat sugar. When it comes down to discipline I have a lot but this urge I just can't control. It's so bad I think if I had to stab someone (not fatally) I would do it just to get some sugar. It always ends up with the same result. I run downt to the grocery store and buy like 5 candy bars... I eat 3 of them and feel much better. I don't know what to do about this. If I eat a normal diet (like with eggs or tuna) I don't get this urge at all. Only if I go with just veggies do I get like this. I have tried eating nuts.. doesn't work. I have tried eating fruit... doesn't work... I have tried a ton of things but I got no ideas.
I am not sure if I have parasites or not but I know that parasites can secrete different chemicals (natural ones) like seritonin and others to make you hungry or give you a emotional reward for eating bad but I just go no clue. I don't know what I can do...
Anyone have a similar problem.
06-03-2005, 05:12 PM
Interesting that you hightlighted fish as a food that helped with sugar attacks - I've long heard, starting with my Grandfather the holistic dentist, that while red meat causes cravings for sugar (just take a gander at a typical English diet, circa 1800's to 1980 . . .) "stable" proteins - his term, not mine - like fish and turkey eaten in a 1/4 - 1/3 proportion to the rest of one's diet will keep glycogen levels on balance and thus the body will not clamour for sugar.
You did not mention if you drink black teas or coffee at all - if you do, that is like waving the red flag in front of a bull as far as sugar goes. Not meant to sound preachy - speaking from painful personal experience - both times I've broken with being 90-95 percent raw it has been over coffee.
Have you tried LARA bars? Raw, dates & almonds, and if I have one or even half of one around 3 - 4 pm each day, the wild lust for midnight chocolate seems to be just a whisper,not an internal scream . . . hope this helps.
06-03-2005, 06:15 PM
this was a huge problem for me for 15 years. I tried raw on and off for that long. I would always blow it over sugar or coffee, or alcohol (which is also a sugar thing). I turned 40 in January, and decided to make this the landmark year that I turned raw. There is life before 40 and life after, for me. This is it.
So, I realized a few things. I crave sugar when I am stressed out, even a little stressed, as in just a passing thought about something emotionally upsetting, not to mention much stronger stresses people can have, like having no money, place to live, abusive partners, or whatever. So I decided to take responsibility for all of my experience in life. If I feel upset, I created that-no one or nothing outside of me did, and I have a choice how I want to feel. That took LOTS of practice.
Secondly, STRESS! if serotonin and dopamine levels are constantly dipping, we are gonna crave stuff. Learn to meditate, do head to toe relaxation, just "getting present" for a few minutes REALLY can make make a difference. THis goes back to choice again, I have the CHOICE to do that, but will I, or will I just go for the chocolate, coffee, wine, etc?
Also, COFFEE!! that is a bugger with the neurohormones and blood sugar. I suggest to ALL- get it out of your life! It is maddeningly addictive. I just quit a 4 year, daily coffee habit. I've heard that coffee puts us into the future, alcohol into the past. I drank coffee cause it made me feel like I was productive, that I could do anything-it was all possible! I was definitely in the future. It is such a drug (that I LOVED). I was up to about 1/2-1 pot a day. Of course, I rationalized I was only drinking organic, free trade coffee with soy cream, so that was WAY better than spending money at Starbucks everyday, right? but it isn't. I quit 3 weeks ago and haven't looked back. I can sleep a whole night now! what a miracle.
I had hypnotherapy for it several years ago to find out what the "inital sensitizing event" was that created the template to the day I was born (that's a whopper) I was separated at birth from my mom for 24 hours, and even when reunited with her, she was really young and not emotionally ready for a child-she wasn't emotionally present with me, nor was my dad. what did the hospital give me since I wasn't nursing? sugar water! that was their standard procedure back then. I know that feeling that I could almost assault someone if they were in my way to get sugar, and those were the times in my life when I was under EXTREME stress (single mom with 2 babies, no money, no family support, no relief, no friends). So I can relate.
I'm just sharing there is more to addiction than just getting the substance out of our bloodstream. There ARE emotions the preceed the use of substances, and looking at them and realizing WE created what things mean about our life can give us our power back and actually be able to say "no" to things powerfully. So find a way to manage the stress-meditation, walking in nature, bubble baths, jounaling, counseling, hypnotherapy, massage/process bodywork, coaching. Blessings!
06-03-2005, 06:16 PM
oh, one more thing! So important-take good angstrom or colloidal minerals. One of the best is by Eniva company, called "cell ready minerals" you can order over internet. This can help A LOT, and sea weeds!
06-03-2005, 06:19 PM
Whoa Theresaann...that was DEE-EEP! Thanks for sharing. The real tripped out part for me was how you traced all the way back to birth and come to find out, they were feeding you sugar water....that is something!
06-04-2005, 03:08 PM
Some raw food teachers, such as Dr. Doug Graham, say that its not the fruit that causes a yeast problem, its the fat. Victoria Boutenko happens to agree with this as well. Just thought I'd throw that out there as an idea for you.
Dr. Graham's website is www.foodnsport.com
Another website that might help is www.fredericpatenaude.com. He's got an article written by Dr. Graham on this subject: http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/rawfat.html
Of course, other raw food teachers (such as Gabriel Cousens) would completely disagree. However, since the no-fruit approach does not seem to be working for you, this may be something you would want to research.
I find when I eat a lot of fruit, I don't crave sweets.
06-04-2005, 07:04 PM
oh, yeah, rawin-my mom confirmed it too. I have read that if the root chakra, which is our connection to family, groups and the earth is not formed properly, because bonding with mom, or some other central caregiver, is disrupted or faulty, that is the biggest contributor to addiction later in life. An experiment done with monkeys found that if the babies were deprived of bonding with their mothers (that is a cruel experiment, needless to say), they were something like 4X more likely to become "alcoholics". They set up this experiment letting the monkeys have access to as much alcohol as they wanted as young adults-the bonding-deprived monkeys became addicted to alcohol. anyway, I TOTALLY TOTALLY believe this.
It says a lot about the importance of how we bring children into this world, and treat them in their early childhood, yes? Also, I think addiction is our way of trying to "mother" ourselves with stuff. I believe that sugar addiction is the ultimate materialism=the root of materialism is "mater", latin for "mother," so addiction is like we are trying to "mother" ourselves with stuff.
Can we mother ourselves with our higher self instead? I sometimes think that's why we are here, in Earth school, to learn to choose trust our higher self, you know what I mean? rawfood really puts that in our face, yes, because it's so ANTI-materialitic. That's why, I think, it makes us have emotional cravings like crazy sometimes. My gosh, it's taken me FIFTEEN YEARS to be emotionally ready to be READY to go raw. geesh! Being human has GOT to be the biggest challenge in the universe.....
10-25-2005, 10:49 PM
Ever tried raw honey? I'm not sure if that would do it for you, but that is as sweet if not sweeter than anything I know.
I agree with everyone on here regarding cravings. However while you're dealing with those issues, raw honey could be used to fulfill the craving, and I don't mean doing it in an unbalanced way either. I don't think you can eat a lot of it, but it sure helps when sugar seems needed sometimes. I personally can't eat even a tip of teaspoon of it as it's so sweet, but every now and then I take a taste.
Also I almost forgot. I've noticed the more green veggies I eat the less cravings I have for any type of food. I usually drink heavy green smoothies once per day (32 oz.).
Just my two cents,
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