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06-02-2005, 07:31 PM
I'm sitting here on the verge of throwing up, I was wondering if anyone could shed some light for me.
Here's a brief rundown of my day. I ate lunch about midday. Big salad(and I had an orange this morning). About 1.5- 2 hours later I walked down to the gym and worked out for about an hour(during which I drank about 24oz of water). I stretched then went to Jamba juice and had a 2oz shot of Wheat Grass. I then went to GNC and had two sample vitamins(vit c and papaya enzyme) and 2 of the multivitamin tablets I purchased(recommended doseage).
I then walked home, which takes me about 20 minutes all uphill(San Francisco Hill). As I was rounding the corner to my house on the flat, I started feeling really nauseated as if I was going to throw up. My mouth started salivating and I thought I'd be fine, but I couldn't hold it and I vomitted in the bushes. I spewed so hard it came out my nostrils and it was BRIGHT GREEn, which makes me think I've had a reaction to the Wheat Grass.
This was about 25 minutes ago and I feel like I need to vomit again very soon. I feel very sick.
Is this because of the wheat grass? Or maybe not eating with the vitamin. I'm not sure.
Should I eat something now? I'm not hungry. I feel so nauseated every time I move.
06-02-2005, 08:27 PM
Wheat grass is a really potent detoxifier. It is commonly recommended that people start with no more than 1oz [better .5] and work their way up to a few ounces a day. Also, never drink on a full stomach or with food [can't help but think the papaya may have reacted with it]. Wait at least 20 minutes after consuming to eat. Personally I drink a few full glasses of water after I down my wgj but my best friend fights a [psychological] urge to gag when he drinks it and can't consume more than a small water chaser for about an hour.
If you are still burping you have some undigested food in your system. I'd drink some water but hold off on eating, give your body a chance to digest the wheat grass and whatever else. But that's just MHO.
06-02-2005, 08:39 PM
Yes it could be the wheat grass ,but you might just have a bug? You might have ingested some bad bacteria?hope you feel better soon :( , so get better ! :)
06-02-2005, 08:40 PM
Thanks Pixie. I did wait 2 hours before working out, so I would've thought my food would've been digested. I didn't eat heavily at all. I'm not burping or anything. My stomach feels empty. It's 6:41pm. I haven't eaten since midday, so I don't think it was a digestion issue at all. No nuts or fats. Just basic green salad with tomatoe carrot cucumber lettuce etc. I didn't have actual papaya at GNC, it was just a vitamin. You think that still would've reacted with the wheat grass?
I think you're right about the wheat grass. I haven't had it in a long time. There was a guy in the store who said "WHOA 2oz" when I got it. So I guess next time I'll heed the warning. One good thing though, he asked how it tasted, and I told him it tasted alot sweeter than I remembered. He said that was a good sign in regard to my body being alot more cleansed.
06-02-2005, 08:40 PM
it is not uncommon to be allergic to wheatgrass, as being allergic to wheat is. In fact, there are quite good arguments against grains (check out Dr Graham's wensite, for example), and myself, after years of believing in macrobiotic, and then switching to raw food diet, I completely elliminated wheat and any other gluten-containing grains from my children's diet (after reading about connection between wheat and autism, my son is slightly autistic).
I do not believe that you should need to train your body to get accustomed to something it does not like. I suppose your body has indicated something to you already.
There are peple who believe that wheatgrass is a great part of their diet, and there are those who cannot tolerate it. Ask yourself, does it feel natural for you to have wheatgrass? Then, act accordingly.
All the best,
06-02-2005, 08:42 PM
My guess is that it's the vitamins. You just finished working out, you had not eaten anything in a while, and then the vitamins. I guess that is just my experience. Not eating anything when I take them makes me wretch almost every time. I do my best not to, but, I guess I should just learn to have a little something in my stomach when I take them.....
So, I am in favor of your nausea being vitamin/empty stomach induced.
Just my two cents!
06-02-2005, 08:45 PM
I had not seen all the posts pointing your nausea to the wheatgrass (don't ask me how I missed them, just tunnel vision, I guess), and so, I encourage you to try it (wheatgrass) at least one other time, w/out the other factors, before giving it up. Especially because I DO think it was the vitamins....
06-02-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm not sure, it's possible though, Vixen. I feel fine aside from that though, and I felt fine up until the wheat grass. So I'm pretty sure it was my body reacting to either too much, or just rejecting it altogether.
Thanks for your take, Gosia. I'm going to check out the website. I should've researched more really before acting so blindly. Live and learn. :rolleyes:
06-02-2005, 08:50 PM
Thanks, Swish. You could be quite right. It's been at least 5 years since I've taken a multivitamin, and I don't take any kind of pills at all. No asprin, allergy pills, Nothing at all.
I think I'm going to research the wheatgrass and experiment, see how my body adjusts to a smaller dose. I've read alot of great stuff about it too, so I'm not going to reject it until I feel sure it's not for me, and not just my abuse of doseage.
06-02-2005, 08:57 PM
I always feel nauseated if I take an MVI (multi-vitamin) on an empty stomach. I don't think 2oz of juice qualifies as a full stomach. I'd try them both again, but seperately. Juice on an empty stomach & MVI after eating. By the way, you need some "fat" in your gut to properly absorb the "fat soluable" vitamins like Vit. A & E. -- another reason to take them with a full tummy. :p
06-02-2005, 09:06 PM
I wonder, if your body rejects something, is it becuase of the dosage? Compare eating a big piece of watermelon and a small piece of watermelon. My body is happy in both instances. Now, compare eating a small piece of a garlic and a bowlful of garlic. Totally different outcome. This is a sort of argument (agains eating garlic etc) that hygienists use, and it make my brain spin around. OK, why something that is good for my body, could be rejected by my body if the dose was bigger than a tiny amount? I know, that if I start smoking, initially I will hate that, but after a while, my body will get used to the dosage, and I will be "OK". But, we are not talking about drugs, or harmful substances, or are we??? :confused:
I would be inclined to think that if I can mono-eat some type of raw food, and fill up my tummy, and make my body happy, then this food should be OK. And, if not, then perhaps it is not?
A counter-argument sometimes is that small amounts of something (call it a poison) might be good, because, for example, a little bit of garlic will help you get rid of some parasites. But, in this line, would wheatgrass be a poison???
I think that I am going to go to some hygienists forum and try to get some answers to my questions.
I hope that you do not mind my loud thinking.
Best of all,
06-02-2005, 10:06 PM
I think that wheat grass is great ,but its just SO potent !!!!!
06-02-2005, 11:05 PM
I'm not a fan of wheatgrass juice, mostly bc it gives me the feeling of wanting to throw up. . . that stuff is NASTY!!!! I used to force it down bc it's supposedly so healthy, but then decided to stop torturing myself, so I no longer drink wheatgrass. My husband loves it though, so go figure. :rolleyes:
06-03-2005, 02:06 PM
My wife cannot take vitamins on an empty stomach, as it makes her very nauseous. She can't even drink one of my energy drinks on an empty stomach for the same reason (Vitamin B3 and 5 at 100%, Vitamin B6 at 300% and B12 at 4900%).
I believe it was the vitamins that got you. The reason it was green is that was the last thing you had eaten/drank.
I bet if you try them the way msmia advised, you'll be fine. Of course, I could be a complete idiot and not know what I'm talking about, so, ultimately, it's up to you.
06-03-2005, 05:05 PM
At risk of being booted off Raw Island on my first day, about every 5th time I go to Jamba Juice it feel slightly "off." Once I had hives for 3 days afterward, thought it might be something in one of the supplements/add-ons they offer, went back and asked for a list of ingredients for the supplements and they were unable to provide it. I know wheat grass is more straight forward than that, but still . . . clean equipment?
The first couple of months I was raw I felt nauseated rather frequently - especially if I had bannanas, for some strange reason . . .drinking room temp or warmer water seemed to help . . .
Take care, Jane Claire
06-04-2005, 05:53 PM
About a little bit not making you sick, but a lot of it making you sick, I think it only makes sense! Great things come in small packages, and there are little things that pack a lot of punch. It kind of makes me think of the old adage that less is more.....
Sometimes I think that having to overthink everything makes my stomach queasy... : )..... Just kidding.... That is one thing that has halted my raw journey a bit... because it seems to take the fun out of it.
Of course, this coming from an over-thinking over-analytical addict. One thing in my life that was simple would be divine!!! ; ).
Why would complaining about a place of business get you kicked off the boards? That is funny, too : ).... I guess everything is funny to me today : )....
I still stand by my vitamin theory. I think wheatgrass tastes great!
Now, one theory. I am not a huge fan of eat right 4 your type, but I do think that, being fearfully and wonderfully made, we are not all clones. Therefore, what causes one body to thrive, may not be the best thing for another's. No?
06-05-2005, 05:56 PM
I did a bit of searching, and my initial suspicions got confirmed. There are definitely those who get a very strong allergic reaction to wheatgrass (including those who has compared their strong allergic reaction to another one, when they had some dye injected in them; throwing up is very common). And, the argument that grasses are meant for horses, cows etc, not for people, does make sense to me. Although we are not all clones, we belong to the same spieces, which means that there is only one optimal diet for us, as it is for every other spieces on this planet. Even if wheatgrass contains some valuable vitamins, it is better to get them from a more natural (as in human-appropriate source), such as for example tender greens. To me, it is pretty clear, if something is not naturally appealing to us, then it is not meant for human consumption. I did try wheatgrass, and I say - yuck. In comparison, fruit, tender greens - yummy! So, I no longer have doubts on the topic. I liked what Dr Graham had to say:
(Below quote is from http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/11748.html)
Here are a collection of Dr. D's posts on Wheatgrass:
Wheatgrass offers nothing that is not in the soil. It offers nothing of importance that is not in lettuces, celery, and other greens. In fact, all of the greens carry, basically, all of the nutrients, just in different proportions. There is nothing special about wheat grass other than the fact that it will make you sick if you attempt to eat it.
Q. Why is wheatgrass juice toxic?
A. The response from most people is not one of health. Too high a percentage of the responses include: vomiting, nausea, stomach upset, irritation, stimulation, shakey feelings, etc, all key indicators of something toxic.
I'll go out on a limb here, but, to my knowledge, humans have no known need for chlorophyll. That said, let's remember that whole foods are a cornerstone of healthy eating. Hence, the juice of the grass of the wheat is not superfood, it is at best no better than the juice of any other vegetable. Personally I recommend the use of whole foods over juices. It is my opinion that foods that cannot be eaten in their whole raw state are not actually fit foods for human consumption.
I am aware of and ascribe no therapeutic or health benefits to the consumption of wheat grass, its juice, or the juice of any grass for that matter. Personally, I think it is a gimmick. Let's stop looking for cures and start living in a way that results in health.
I recommend the use of whole foods over juices. Eat wheat grass and you will get sick. I see no benefit in the use of wheat grass when comparing it to the use of tender greens such as lettuces, celery, etc, hence I do not recommend its use.
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All the best,
06-05-2005, 11:19 PM
I also believe it was the vitamins, or maybe the combo of vitamins and wheatgrass.
I believe in the healing power of wheatgrass. Especially when you are anemic, but that's just one of it's many uses. I just started drinking it again (mixed with carrot juice) because I'm in my last month of pregnancy. ;)
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