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Vivafree2
01-16-2008, 12:36 PM
I am not happy i am not sad - learning to be flat!
I would love flat belly, and would not mind to flatten my other body areas - i don't know what to do with flat emotions. Is that peace? How to deal with this sudden change - i feel almost indifferent. Help.
Sugar out drama out emotions out.

SbutterAMfly
01-16-2008, 01:23 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say that one needs to be "happy" or "sad".

Just BE-ing is all there is.

Vivafree2
01-16-2008, 03:03 PM
I just red zilion of older posts related to emotional detox - i think i just experience different stage of cleansing.... it is not pretty, it is not sexy and it is not kind, but i am willing to go through it .

maui_butterfly
01-16-2008, 03:41 PM
in my experience, peace is not flat. peace is smiley... detatched but happy.

i think you're right about the emotional detox thing, and also your comment "sugar out drama out emotions out"... could be that your old overstimulated self needed emotions "pumped up" in order to recognize them... your emotions are still there, but your emotion receptors need time to re-equillibriate. does that make sense?

just a thought.

i really like this article about emotional detox: http://www.rawgosia.com/articles/bryan_yamamoto.html

Vivafree2
01-17-2008, 08:33 AM
Yes - i think you are very right! I need to recalibrate, tune into different vibrations. I was rather very quick in emotional responses to everything, short tempered too. Yes - peace is a pleasant clear state, flat is grey and foggy - but eventually the fogg will clear and sun will come out. I think that current state is a prelude to the peace.
And thank you very much for the article - it is great!!!! I understand it fully and i agree!!!
...and flat emotions are not necessary flat as yet - one email and all the fears and stresses are alive! I am exhausted of all the tremblings in the soul so when they stop for a second i see it as a change.

maui_butterfly
01-17-2008, 04:49 PM
glad you liked that article. i did too!

i was reading through your blog on this forum. lots of good work there on toxic emotions. one thing i have found amazingly helpful is byron katie's simple (but not easy) inquiry method called "The Work". her book "I Need Your Love, Is That True?" is a very good intro to the practice, although she has a lot of stuff online as well www.thework.com (check "The Work In Action" little video clips for a great primer...). by questioning your stressful and painful thoughts in this manner, they really let go of you. its worked like magic in my life!

best wishes on your raw journey. you're doing great!

Draginvry
01-19-2008, 01:13 PM
Peace is not lack of emotion. Peace is the ability to look at the world without attachment.

EZ rider
01-19-2008, 03:33 PM
I like to think of peace as being the opposite of agitation. Peace to me is a state of rest, a feeling of being satisfied, and overall harmony. Its a feeling of not having to go anywhere or do anything, just relaxing.

Vivafree2
02-27-2008, 10:00 AM
I write again couple weeks after my first post - i do change - gradually i become more peaceful, but it is a process. I learn great deal from it - for me peace ( as it was absent mostly in my life so far) is associated with still waters, feeling relaxed, mellow and yes - there is no attachement to any other emotions and happenings. I didn;t achieve it yet but i am working on it and it is my goal.
Real peace is probably also being content and healthy.
My toxic, spiking emotions now are more stable and i do not feel "flat" as it was scary - i slowly open to feel.

maui_butterfly
02-29-2008, 01:57 AM
thanks for the update vivafree, i'm glad to hear the news of your unfolding. :)