Help me eat black beans and wild rice raw.

[Mueller]

Ok, so the only thing I am really missing are veggie burritos.

When I was vegan, before I went raw, Ezekial tortillas with black beans, wild rice, green peppers, lettuce, seasoning ect were one of my staples.

Do I need to soak wild rice and black beans? How do I buy them? Just organic and dry in a package?

Any tips appreciated. I am thinking about buying a dehydrator so I can make my own tortilla wraps and warm these little treats.

[raweater]

Beans/lentils/etc contains toxins and are unhealthy, I would not recommend eating them.

Wild rice is a grain so it too is unhealthy (grains are for birds, they are too rich in sugar and antinutrients and poor in nutrition for humans) but probably not too bad in moderation, especially if you exercise to burn off the excess sugar.

[subbacultcha]

Some wild rice can be soaked and sprouted, but I think it is sometimes cooked. I don't use it because I don't like it that much but some here do so I'm sure they can help you out.

About the black beans - I'm not sure if you could eat them raw even if they were sprouted, as I have a feeling they have a similar toxin to kidney beans...I could be wrong though. You could try using another sprouted bean like aduki beans, or maybe sprouted lentils? I know they're not the same but they have a similar composition so they might sort the craving for you! Sprouted puy lentils are lovely, and they sprout really fast!

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!

[Mueller]

All beans and lentils contain toxins?

[Mueller]

Well the end result is just ingredients for tacos or burritos, I'm not married to any ingredients.

I was just looking for some options with less fat than nuts. I still haven't wrapped my head around what my optimal intake should be.

Anyone know where I could read more about the toxic properties of beans and which ones to avoid? I am going to reference Brendan Braziers book(which isn't a 100% raw book), 'The Thrive Diet' as I was first introduced to sprouting there.

[Mueller]

When I initially googled I came up with this site which had recipes for both.

http://www.rawfoodlife.com/raw_food_recipes.html

I'd be really interested in opinions on Alissa's or your thoughts about these foods.

[subbacultcha]

I found some info on sprouting large beans and toxins here http://www.living-foods.com/articles/largebeans.html
It mentions black beans near the bottom.

I think there's some disagreement regarding toxins in sprouted pulses. Personally, I consume sprouted lentils, chickpeas, mung beans, aduki beans, etc. regularly and feel great!

[walnutty]

Hey mueller,

I also love veggie tacos! The "refried beans" recipe in this post is addicting and very hearty:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=35649

I just take a long leaf of romaine, place the beans on the bottom, then guacamole, then salsa and fold the romaine over on the end (leafy part). The vein is the bottom and supports everything. These are delish raw vegan veggie tacos. Good luck!

p.s. I omit the oil and use a teeny bit of water if needed to keep the food processor moving. Always remember to "taste as you make" to adjust raw recipes to your liking. I also add cayenne cuz I like my mexi food to be spicy! I also do not add the vinegar, because I am not a big fan of vinegar. It's so good!

[rawgreenyogini]

Beans/lentils/etc contains toxins and are unhealthy, I would not recommend eating them.

Wild rice is a grain so it too is unhealthy (grains are for birds, they are too rich in sugar and antinutrients and poor in nutrition for humans) but probably not too bad in moderation, especially if you exercise to burn off the excess sugar.

Wild rice is actually a seed and not a grain, although one tends to treat all "rice" as a grain.

see this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_rice)

[rawgreenyogini]

Well the end result is just ingredients for tacos or burritos, I'm not married to any ingredients.
I was just looking for some options with less fat than nuts. I still haven't wrapped my head around what my optimal intake should be.



Why not use chopped mushrooms as "meat" if you feel that is what you need in your tacos? There is a wonderful Spicy Taco recipe here on RFT that calls for soaked walnuts. You could probably sub the mushrooms for walnuts and proceed the same way. I never make dehydrated shells for my tacos. Either I use Romaine lettuce leaves or purple cabbage leaves ( because it's so pretty and crunchy too! ).

Here is the link to the Spicy Tacos (http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=35363&highlight=spicy+tacos)

[subbacultcha]

Inspired by rawgreenyogini's mushroom idea. You could use crimini mushrooms, the really small ones, and chop the stalks off. Maybe marinate them, and use them. They are a similar size/shape and have a similar texture to cooked beans.

[rawgreenyogini]

Inspired by rawgreenyogini's mushroom idea. You could use crimini mushrooms, the really small ones, and chop the stalks off. Maybe marinate them, and use them. They are a similar size/shape and have a similar texture to cooked beans.

Yup that sure sounds good!!!! I love mushrooms made anykind of way!!!

[subbacultcha]

Yup that sure sounds good!!!! I love mushrooms made anykind of way!!!

Me too :)
I think I might make a raw tortilla (rawtilla?) with crimini mushrooms tomorrow. I'm craving one now :rolleyes:

[rawgreenyogini]

Me too :)
I think I might make a raw tortilla (rawtilla?) with crimini mushrooms tomorrow. I'm craving one now :rolleyes:

quick run as fast as you can to the kitchen!!!!!:eek:

Make some for me too please....???:D

[raweater]

Wild rice is actually a seed and not a grain, although one tends to treat all "rice" as a grain.

see this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_rice)

It still has the very unhealthy and dangerous properties of any grain, and all grains are seeds, so all rice are seeds.

The problem is they are 75-80% sugar and have nearly no nutrition, it's really not much different than eating white refined sugar, and that's why rice and grains cause diabetes, cancer, crohn's disease etc. (the same diseases caused by refined sugar).

My reason for eating raw is health, so grains do not really belong in a raw diet unless you're not doing it for health (I'm not aware of much other reasons for being raw).

[momma-rawma]

It still has the very unhealthy and dangerous properties of any grain, and all grains are seeds, so all rice are seeds.

The problem is they are 75-80% sugar and have nearly no nutrition, it's really not much different than eating white refined sugar, and that's why rice and grains cause diabetes, cancer, crohn's disease etc. (the same diseases caused by refined sugar).

My reason for eating raw is health, so grains do not really belong in a raw diet unless you're not doing it for health (I'm not aware of much other reasons for being raw).

Question for you--would they be okay for a runner?

I'm only partial due to that I am participating in a marathon this coming up weekend....

Running requires complex carbs....so though fruit would be wonderful as far as a fast digesting sugar to replenish glycogen stores...not so good for stocking up.

I have found soooooo little on raw while running. I know there is a marathon runner who does it--but she did a water fast the week before her PR in some event....ummm....I am soooo not ready for that.

In any case, I would be interested in your thoughts on stocking up and replenishing glycogen for a run. The sight of me collapsing--just not something I am keen on.

[Revvell]

I'm only partial due to that I am participating in a marathon this coming up weekend....


Partial raw? Because you're running? Ummm, why would something that's unhealthy be good for a runner? I'm confused. :confused:

You might want to get to know two marathoners ~ one being 72 year old Ruth Heidrich and the other is Tim Van Orden who is also a tower racer. Both are raw. I've interviewed both of them on my web-based radio program.

Revvell

[momma-rawma]

Partial raw? Because you're running? Ummm, why would something that's unhealthy be good for a runner? I'm confused. :confused:

You might want to get to know two marathoners ~ one being 72 year old Ruth Heidrich and the other is Tim Van Orden who is also a tower racer. Both are raw. I've interviewed both of them on my web-based radio program.

Revvell

I turned raw on the 26th..it would be bad b/c I don't know what foods would work best on a 13.1 and 26.2 mile run this weekend (I am doing the Goofy at Disney).

My 20 miler was on Dec 23....3 days before I went partial/high raw.


From Tim's website:


Did I start training right away when I became raw?
I was raw for a year before I started to train. I don't think it's a good idea to be on a training regimen when you are starting a raw diet. The detox can be pretty intense, and the exercise can further the stress on your immune system.

To further elaborate--you don't mess with what your body knows and since I opted for a healthier way of eating so close to the event, it just isn't wise to shock the body that way. and evidently, Tim agrees.

[momma-rawma]

Partial raw? Because you're running? Ummm, why would something that's unhealthy be good for a runner? I'm confused. :confused:

You might want to get to know two marathoners ~ one being 72 year old Ruth Heidrich and the other is Tim Van Orden who is also a tower racer. Both are raw. I've interviewed both of them on my web-based radio program.

Revvell

Oh and I wasn't suggesting that it was unhealthy for a runner at all....

I was asking the other poster about the absence of any and all raw grains (That could be consumed raw or sprouted).

Just for clarification--I am too close to my event to rule out what I trained with as I can't practice with it.

[NoGMO!]

apparently black bean, kidney, pinto, etc. need to be cooked even after sprouting, but lentils, garbonzos and some others can be eated raw after being sprouted if you choose.

"Sprouts The Miracle Food" by Steve Meyerowitz
and books about sprouting by Ann Wigmore answered most of my sprouting questions. good luck.