Read this very important for personal freedom and diet

[kyrie]

Hi all,

No this is very serious.

Follow this link:

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/12/07/senate-bill-1959-to-criminalize-thoughts-blogs-books-and-free-speech-across-america/

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/12/07/food-irradiation/

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/12/07/the-last-days-of-mexican-corn/

This is truly evil at work in plain sight, in my humble opinion.

Just trying to be informed.

Carla.

[crystalmoon]

Thanks for these links
Wow this is so scary for the entire world, truly awful for all in the US :eek:

This year a very well known Uk raw foodist/author was refused entry to the US. She was on her way to the raw festival in Sedona, they just didnt like the look of her (too hippy?) & the fact that she wasnt bringing lots of cash with her but was bringing her raw chocolate bars as gifts. She was really badly treated at a US airport, they even accused her of planning to sell her body for sex:eek:
I think there may still be a report about it on the site these items come from. Her experience has really put me off the idea of travelling to America:(

[Antari]

Thanks for these links
Wow this is so scary for the entire world, truly awful for all in the US :eek:

This year a very well known Uk raw foodist/author was refused entry to the US. She was on her way to the raw festival in Sedona, they just didnt like the look of her (too hippy?) & the fact that she wasnt bringing lots of cash with her but was bringing her raw chocolate bars as gifts. She was really badly treated at a US airport, they even accused her of planning to sell her body for sex:eek:
I think there may still be a report about it on the site these items come from. Her experience has really put me off the idea of travelling to America:(

Link on this :eek:

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/10/14/kate-visits-the-land-of-the-free-and-comes-back-quicker-than-shed-expected/

[Aleesha Sattva]

that is disgustingly frightening. :(

[subbacultcha]

What happened to Kate Wood is disgusting. It really shows how ignorant and narrow minded. It seems like they took a dislike to her just because of how she looked, if they'd done that to someone because of their race or whatever it'd be in the news...its the same thing though, just persecuting people for being different.

[Cinammon]

I agree, it's terrifying! It's actually one of the things which put me off raw foods: since I read on the David Icke website that a major GM food company were PATENTING the GM seeds (patenting of seeds a practice long forbidden), and that, should the GM seeds contaminate other farmed lands, the other farmers had to pay a fee to the GM companies!

I thought: 'What's the point learning about the wonder of organic food, if there's soon going to be none left?'

And now, I read that every single seed on Earth is being stored ...

BUT: it doesn't have to be this way! I'm back on raw, and the more people who do it, the more the balance will shift. Humans together have so much power - and, as David Icke says, this power is one of the things 'they' want us to forget we have!

Power to us all! The amazing thing about love is how powerful it is - and how gentle!!

[4fruit]

Thanks for that last post with a little bit of hope.

I read this earlier posts and links this morning and just got completely overwhelmed and terrified.

Can someone please post something positive about the future and the US?
I really need another way of looking at all this!

anyone look at all this horrible stuff and still see hope for our future?
If so, PLEASE share, ASAP!

Thank you in advance.

[FloridaPatty]

on for quite awhile. The Patriot Act of 2001 has in it that in case of "dangerious influenze" or other major virus, the gov't has the right to demand people get vacinated against the disease. If we refuse, they can take our property and everything we own and throw us in jail.

For the last 7 years I haven't seen much evidence the gov't is fighting terrorism, but I have seen a lot of evidence they are fight We the People.

[Glowin]

this is very, very sad

[shashibala]

The revolution starts within and at home!!! Buy organic and local as you can. Grow your own food as much as possible! Sprout seeds! Teach an inner city kid where food comes from! Start a community garden.
SHHH...Save your seeds! ;)
Walk away from their medications (drugs) and fear as much as you SAFELY can. Wisdom will prevail!!!!

[4fruit]

thank you for that bit of hope in the last message.

Ok, so I understand why to save seeds, but any info on how to do it,
and what do you do with them then? do you use them or keep saving them?

[russio]

IMHO there is very little real freedom in the U.S. What little we have is being taken away bit by bit by this out-of-control Govt.

Soon we will all have "real-id's" so this Govt can stamp all of us even more, we already have to have a passport to get back in our home country even from Mexico and Canada, I cant camp more than two days in my National park, the indigenious people of Hawaii cannot afford to live there and it is illegal for them to live on their beaches, the Govt will put a lien on your car or home if you dont pay increasing taxes on them (and you thought you owned them!), I can't have a trailer or ugly car parked in my street more than 72 hours or it will get towed, my ice must be removed, I cannot put up a garage sale sign on the pole at the end of my neighborhood anymore, my kids cant go trick-or-treating by themselves in this over-priced neighborhood because of safety, my yard must be nice and trim, I must drive at a certain speed in a certain way, and pay all bills even though everything continues to go up, but my salary. I will have no social security because the baby-boomers are more worried about themselves rather than leaving some for their children, I have to file my taxes precisely or I will be audited (again), my car must meet proper emissions, EVERYONE wants to check my credit for ANYTHING, every company in the US wants desperatly to put me more in debt, and then they cry fowl when people can't afford to pay them, I cant run after work at the high-school track at midnight without continously being harrassed by the police (so I stopped). I cannot open a business in my town without going through a hellish amount of beaurocracy that stiffles anyone but big corporations with teams assembled to deal with it. Samll business no linger thrive anyway in this area, so I guess it is set up for our failure. There are no jobs within 40 miles of me that are anything but retail and pay nothing, so I drive 52 miles one-way to work so I don't have to have my kids go to overcrowded TERRIBLE Denver area schools. I work overtime everyday and have no life for 5 days a week just to pay for the ridiculous amount of bills it takes just to sustain a minimal existance.


You might be the exception, but this squeeze to our liberty and life is becoming more and more of a reality for so many people. I personally and thinking of moving to Mexico or some other country for good. This one is failing. It is failing to allow the people who should have the power to live according to their wishes and happiness. We are so methodically intertwined into one specific way of life that barely works and if you happen to hiccup it all will come crashing down around you. The freedom we perceive is not really anything more than a veil that shrouds the true reality that we are a cog in a wheel helping others to succeed at our pwn price, not theirs. The ridiculously wealthy thrive as we work harder for less.

[FloridaPatty]

Read an article this week that once I retire I can expect to spend $11,000 a year on medical issues when I get on medicare! We are the only industrialized country in the word without universal health. That means I work my entire life to support the medical establishment when I retire? That's insane.

As for social security - there is nothing wrong with ss. We've been paying extra since 1980 to pay for the boomers. The gov't complains that in 2020 ss will be in the red. Not exactly true. The gov't owes ss $2.5 trillion. That will be used up by 2040. Then they claim ss will go broke because of the boomers. But in 2040 we will be in our 90's and 100's! Right now there is 1% of the ss population that old. There is no problem with ss except the free ride is over for the gov't taking ss funds and using them elsewhere.

As for the rest of you post - too true. Not quite that bad here in Florida. But every year it gets worse.

[Cinammon]

Hey - maybe things have to get worse before they get better? Or maybe we're on a circle/cycle going back millenia, that we have the chance to break now? What's that Newton's Law thing? an object will remain in perpetual motion until another object with a stronger force changes it? (something like that ...!)

I'd say: maybe read David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow & co (if you haven't already), take with a pinch of salt here and there, but v good for another viewpoint/overview, even if not entirely accurate?

In many ways (sorry; don't hate me) the US has been very very sick for a very long time: the whole 'Land of the free' thing was sung while slavery was going on: genocide started the country, and in many ways the whole thing's been one big con.

The sort of enforced patriotism of the US seems very good for fighting wars (American acronym for rest of word: ROW) but not so good, maybe for its citizens ..

and now one could argue that that sickness has bubbled its way fully up to the surface, and is more and more on display - and maybe now's the time to tackle it? (although time's just an illusion).

I'm not anti-American. And I stopped being proud of Britain the day Blair declared 'war' on Iraq.

Wouldn't it be great if all that genuine American idealism and pride in being 'land of the free' could actually be harnessed for the good, instead of being used for the bad? if the enforced paranoia could turn to love?

Celestine Prophecy says now's the time for humanity to make the leap to a more evolved consciousness; and maybe part of that leap involves a lot of the old mud/sickness being churned up?

I'm rambling on a bit - sorry. In a nutshell: yes, it looks pretty terrifying right now: '1984' coming to life before our eyes pretty much everywhere; but that's not where the real power lies - and 'they' know it, and that's why 'they' have to use force. 'They're' terrified; hanging onto an illusion; needing to get energy from others as they've long since lost their own; lost their way. And, if everything's One, there's probably a bit of that in most of us. Change that, and we move on (sorry: have been reading a lot of New Age books!!)

The real power lies in every one of us; is always with Love. And I hate to say it, but maybe the old saying's right: change yourself and you change the rest of the world.

Only thing that isn't an illusion is Love. (I just wish Love would come visit here more often!! but maybe that's part of our job? to let it in? And yes - I know how revoltingly 'pi' that sounds).

Finally - I suppose it is all a learning experience (although I'd sooner learn through joy, thank you very much!)

PS: Be on the lookout for the verichip - implantable human microchip. It's maybe only a matter of time before it really starts getting touted as the Latest Good for Humanity - it'll Stop Terrorism, Stop Aging, Stop Medical MixUps, Stop Everything Bad Happening To You - and if you don't take it, you're a Bad Citizen.

Hah - yes. And there really were WMD in Iraq, Iran really is a threat, and the elitist millionaires who run the country really do have the best interests of the populace at heart.

We can change things for the better! Maybe every tiny thing we do really does echo out, with a power we cannot comprehend fully right now? And so the worst thing we could do is just sink into depression. I don't mean: be Pollyanna. Just the old: focus on the positive, with a weather eye on the corruption around us. And don't get emotional about it, one way or the other, or put 'good' or 'bad' onto it. Or get depressed. There's always more power in Love.

Cinammon x

[raweater]

Vote for Ron Paul as president and he won't let this happen!

[NoGMO!]

Hi all,

No this is very serious.

Follow this link:


http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/12/07/the-last-days-of-mexican-corn/

This is truly evil at work in plain sight, in my humble opinion.

Just trying to be informed.

Carla.

Kyrie, Have you seen "The Future of Food"? here's a clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNezTsrCY0Q

[Stina]

I get really stressed over stuff like this. How do you guys incorporate the reality of this into your perspective on life when you're striving to be spiritual and happy? without putting your head in the sand......

[Lavendula]

anything, by being negative. Each one doing what they can to conserve, recycle, second use, doing without the latest, you name it ( fashions, electronics,cell phones, ipods, cars, vacations, eating out and just un-necessities of life ). Minimizing what society says you need to live, and teaching the next generation these real values, makes the biggest difference. People here in the U.S. are really such spoiled kids ( I was thinking pigs) compared to many other equally advanced countries. Growing whatever you can, in whatever space you have, using whatever resources you have and doing more than complaining is the key. If you were privileged to have known or were fortunate enough to have been raised or influenced by; a relative from the old country, someone who lived through the great depression, or in any of the countries that were in WW II, you have some idea what I mean. They lived well within thier means, they were so-called poorly educated, but they LIVED, ATE, and DIED better than any of us will. They didn't need to go to the gym to get a work out, or do any kind of weight loss diet, they never needed credit counseling, or bankruptcy, etc. I am fortunate to have had two such parents, and two other relatives still living (81 & 89 yrs old), who have lived very practical lives. They live alone in teeny, tiny little houses , are socially active, and are worth more than I can imagine. They are not related, don't even know of each other, one was a city dweller who never drove, one grew up on farm, and drove the same little VW Rabbit for 15 years, before that it was a VW bus. Though I am not in their line of inheritance, the legacy they leave means more than any amount of $$$. It's not about where you live, how much you make, what you have, or what the government is doing, its' about what you do with what is entrusted to you in this life. We will all leave a footprint of some kind, how big or how little? What kind of legacy will you leave?

[Lavendula]

are those who give away more than they use. How about the 10% percent tithing principal in reverse. Using only 10% of what you make and giving away the rest. I'm sorry, I just think most Americans die of consumption than anything else, and I don't mean tuberculosis. Enough from me on this subject, don't know what really got me started.

[Lavendula]

Link on this :eek:

http://www.rawcuisine.co.uk/2007/10/14/kate-visits-the-land-of-the-free-and-comes-back-quicker-than-shed-expected/

I do shudder! I was almost reduced to tears when Calfornia border guards took away my Oregon grown apples. I know this sort of thing happens in most every country, but we think it won't happen to me.

[Glowin]

Thank you, thank you to Cinnamon and Lavendula for a little bit of * light *
in the darkness...


it is GREATLY appreciated! :)

[Cabosun]

anything, by being negative. Each one doing what they can to conserve, recycle, second use, doing without the latest, you name it ( fashions, electronics,cell phones, ipods, cars, vacations, eating out and just un-necessities of life ). Minimizing what society says you need to live, and teaching the next generation these real values, makes the biggest difference. People here in the U.S. are really such spoiled kids ( I was thinking pigs) compared to many other equally advanced countries. Growing whatever you can, in whatever space you have, using whatever resources you have and doing more than complaining is the key. If you were privileged to have known or were fortunate enough to have been raised or influenced by; a relative from the old country, someone who lived through the great depression, or in any of the countries that were in WW II, you have some idea what I mean. They lived well within thier means, they were so-called poorly educated, but they LIVED, ATE, and DIED better than any of us will. They didn't need to go to the gym to get a work out, or do any kind of weight loss diet, they never needed credit counseling, or bankruptcy, etc. I am fortunate to have had two such parents, and two other relatives still living (81 & 89 yrs old), who have lived very practical lives. They live alone in teeny, tiny little houses , are socially active, and are worth more than I can imagine. They are not related, don't even know of each other, one was a city dweller who never drove, one grew up on farm, and drove the same little VW Rabbit for 15 years, before that it was a VW bus. Though I am not in their line of inheritance, the legacy they leave means more than any amount of $$$. It's not about where you live, how much you make, what you have, or what the government is doing, its' about what you do with what is entrusted to you in this life. We will all leave a footprint of some kind, how big or how little? What kind of legacy will you leave?

I have learned so much from my dear mother in law who survived Hitler's evil war! Most of her family member's were killed when a bomb destroyed their home to a mere crater in the ground. Her brother and her were not home at the time, but out attending to the family garden which was a mile away. They arrived back home only to see the most terrifying sight that they would ever have to endure in their lifetimes........their mother and newborn sister laying in that crater.....gone! I will not go into more details here.....but this all lead to her amazing story of survival! She went through pure hell on earth. She met my father in law when he was over there for peacekeeping. She made a fortune here by starting her own antique and reproduction business in Houston. To this day she still lives a very frugal life! She has never ever used credit, but has always paid cash for every purchase....including homes and her commercial business property and the building she built on it. She did rent a building for her business for five years until she saved enough to purchase her business property and build. She is a very healthy, vibrant 82 years young. And also has been about 80% raw for the past two years. My dear mother in law is a prime example of what you describe above. thank you for sharing with us.

[FloridaPatty]

I do shudder! I was almost reduced to tears when Calfornia border guards took away my Oregon grown apples. I know this sort of thing happens in most every country, but we think it won't happen to me.

California, Arizona, Florida, Hawaii, and Texas rely on agriculture very heavily for their income and businesses. There are all sorts of rules about what you can bring across the state line. Here in Florida we have greening (super killer of citrus trees) and fire ants that someone brought something infected across the border in total disregard of the law.

So it's not you - just certain states.

[vivctfem27]

Cinnamon, all you said was rt on target. It is 1984 rt in front of our eyes, "For those that can see, See. Lets not go into despair, or fear but keep ourselves strong , thru groups like this. Lets raise our own vibration, thru diet, cleansing and human connections. Whatever happens who knows but while we are here, lets count for something.