December Master Cleanse

[cayako]

Hello wonderful raw food talk.

I love this site. I can always count on it to be there for me when I am starting a cleanse or have questions.

So, currently, I am working as a caretaker up at these fabulously remote hot springs and we are starting a 10 day master cleanse with an option to go longer. So, if anyone else is starting a cleanse, then please join us!

I hope to add comments on how I am doing everyday, but sometimes our satellite internet goes out depending on the weather.

I am looking forward to soaking and drinking up a lot of lemonade!

Wishing everyone a successful fast/cleanse!!

christina

[StarFire]

hey there girl!! I'm right there with you! I'll be doin the MC for a few days. I think it will help me push thru this bronchitis nonsense I've been dealing with!

I will be tweaking it a bit though - on some days I will be having a cucumber concoction once a day to help with the cleanse. (i will be doing this intuitively when my body asks for it..) and the other thing I will be adding is 15 drops of grapefruit seed extract 3x a day for about a week - to help rid my body of this virus.... and then after that - drop down my grapefruit seed intake to only once or twice a day.

my body needs to cleanse the residues of stress out of me. I've been under INTENSE STRESS for many months now -- which increased to barely manageable stress (okay - borderline - gunna lose it stress http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/taz-1.gif !!)

Its going to be an amazing month... I can feeel it!! rawk on ...

and so the journey continues!!! http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/woohoo.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif ... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/SANTA_4.gif ... To December!!!

[VeggieMel]

I started the master cleanse today, too. It's my first time doing it. I don't feel weak, but I do feel mildly hungry. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to drink enough of it, but now that I've tasted it, I'm concerned I might drink too much. It's yummy.
cayako, I'm envious of you at the remote hotspirngs. Sounds great!

[StarFire]

but I do feel mildly hungry

VeggieMel... when you feel any hunger - drink more of the MC lemonade. in fact .. guzzle it -- drink your fill of it... until you feel satisfied.

by doing this it will actually keep the hunger away. Drink as much of the MC drink as you want! This combination is amazing stuff and it really REALLY WORKS!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif ... blessings on your journey! ;)

[VeggieMel]

Thanks for the advice and encouragement, Starfire! I appreciate it :D

[cayako]

Hey Starfire!

Great to hear from you! Well, we are almost done with day one and I have to say, it's a lot easier than I though that it would be. mostly I think it's because I've eaten raw....and somehow even when i'm not raw, the dicipline kicks in when i need it to...

slight headaches, but nothing too bad...not looking forward to day two or three, but am looking forward to day 4! going on a hike tomorrow to speed through some of the first toxin releases...oi! wish me luck

i hope that your bronchitis feels better~!

did that coconut oil ever work for you? i switched again to another cream that a woman makes at the farmer's market.

Here's to everyone on the cleanse, good luck adn be strong! guzzle it~!

christina

[cayako]

hey, i know that the salt water flush is important, but it brings up a lot of fear for me....and i don't have a herbal laxative tea...any advice, options?

i'd really really appreciate it. i literally got so upset when i was talking to megan (who is doing this with me) about it. i don't know why i am so blocked.

christina

[rubyhair]

i started the master cleanse today! this is the first time i've done it. i've been raw for 18 days now and i'm going through detox. i figured it would be good to do the cleanse now so i can get lots and lots of toxins out of me. so far so good. i was worried about the taste of the lemonade but it's not bad. the salt water is waaay worse! i'm very excited about this. i plan on doing the 10 days and go from there, if i need to do more or end if that is sufficent.

[VeggieMel]

cayako, I was afraid of the salt water cleanse, too, but I found it to be no big deal. The taste of the salt in a quart of water is very mild. A really good herbal laxative tea is called "Smooth Move." I think it's available at most health food stores.

[ericajones80]

the salt water cleanse sounds rough

[cayako]

Thanks VEGIMEL! after watching Megan do it, it doesn't look so bad...

RUBYHAIR, welcome and good luck!

I have intermittent internet access so I will post as much as possible. Check out my blog if you want to read about how my cleanse is going.

christina

[Morn]

Ok I am joining in. This is my first day of my master cleanse fast. I am mentally struggling a little but I know by the third day I will be good to go. I will be doing a short one - 10 days plus 2 transition days of OJ. I just hope I don't freeze to death - here in Michigan it is so cold and every time I fast my body temperature drops so much because of the old metabolism slowing down. This is the 4th time I have done the Master Cleanse but it has been a few months since the last one and each time I enjoy it.

Well Cheers every one!;)

[StarFire]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/hidot.gif ... RAWK ON MORN!!! so glad to have you jumping in!!

day 4... detox has set in - headaches, fuzzy teeth... blecchhh...
okay - don't everyone go running screaming from the building -- my teeth are not actually 'fuzzy' but because of the detox - I'm having to brush my teeth more than 3 times a day! see look ----> :D no fuzz!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif

[Morn]

Thanks Starfire - I am hoping to make some headway with the last 10 pounds I would like to lose. I am tired of maintaing and wish to take some ground.

[VeggieMel]

Day 4 for me, and I'm really going strong. I'm hardly even hungry. That's what amazes me! And my energy is normal. I have never experienced this during a fast before. I'm very encouraged!

[cayako]

Welcome Morn!

I love that I have so many experienced MC'rs! I feel much support.

I'm right there with you VeggieMel! I am feeling a lot more energetic and not hungry at all...although when I went for a two mile walk, I did hit a blood sugar low point and felt a sensation like starving, but it was not quite that. I definitley passed some nasty toxins in my bm today and even was able to drink about 4 oz of the SWF...ok, i need work in that department, but I followed with 25 oz. of water and that seemed to do the trick.

i felt great the rest of the day, but toward the evening, i definitley felt a little something in my lower tummy adn my back was really sore. but a little soak at the hot springs seemed to clear that up right away.

Starfire, I don't have fuzzy teeth, but I was SHOCKED at my tongue. Gross!!! I brushed it hard today...no idea it could get that white!!

Good job everyone!!

[StarFire]

Checkin in ... howz it goin rawbies??? Day 5!!

I'm feelin strong, not hungry, although - for some really ridiculous reason it seems when I start fasting -- I always end up 'browsing' thru Alissa book ... :eek: reading all the recipes, and occassionally the questions pops into my head...

'look at all this amazing raw foods... why can't I eat it? Why am I doing this again???' .... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/1422.gif

but the moment passes and I remember the 'BIGGER PICTURE' and the fact that I still need to detox and clean this gunk out of me. Stress really does a number on us - although many don't realize it REALLy DOES affect us physically also!

I woke up this morning - with detox in full swing... every joint in my hands felt arthritic... my tongue was wearing a disgusting coat of nastiness ... blechh....my kidneys were aching (right side) and my feet hurt when I stood on them.

I hobbled to the bathroom -- (went potty) I know tmi... and brushed my teeth and tongue and the sides of my mouth forEVER... then drank some fresh water... ahhhhhh... within 10 minutes I was feeling wonderful! Amazing... detox is my friend... :D

I also realized - I'm not drinking as much of the MC lemonade as I have in the past - I don't know if it's cuz I'm just not hungry - or if I'm just being side tracked at work.

yesterday I had one 20 ounce bottle, and two 32 ounce bottles, then drank one 16 ounce bottle of water, one 32 ounce bottle of water and one cup of 'get regular' tea -- so that's about 6 ounces of water (I don't do the SWF)...the salt REALLY messes with my system.

the last time I did the MC - I drank between six to eight 32 ounce bottles of the MC lemonade a day --- plus water and the 'get regular' tea. So - I'm going to try to 'step up' my MC lemonade consumption. Although.. I'm really not thirsty or hungry with what I'm taking in right now.

what's your take on it -- do you think I'm taking in enough liquid? lemme know!

HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING FABULOUS!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif ... RAWK ON!!

[VeggieMel]

starfire, you used to drink 6-8 quarts of master cleanse a day? Wow! That's a lot! Borroughs recommends 60 or more ounces, right? I've been drinking 4 quarts a day, and I thought that was a lot! You must have spent a lot of time juicing lemons. Today I tried juicing lemons through my Champion, but the lemon juice comes out all foamy that way which makes it hard to measure. How do you juice your lemons?
I'm thinking of not doing the swf either. It doesn't seem to be producing any results. I may do tea in the morning instead.

[Yeshia]

I'm gonna join you,

I did the flush 2 hours ago, how long does it take to flush ?I thought it was immediate?

Should I repeat it?
:eek:

[SuBu]

Don't know if it's ok to do, but several yrs ago when I did MC, I would gently heat it and drink as tea for a warming effect. I too was freezing the whole time! Don't fear the salt water flush--with warm water it begins to taste like a delish broth. I loved it.

[Morn]

Today is day 2 and I am feeling pretty good. I worked out at the gym for 50 minutes and tried to do mostly cardio and some abs. I know I need to take it easy while I am fasting so I did the eliptical machine and stationary bike. Other than that I still don't feel like I am in the fasting groove. I still think I am going to eat and then I realize I am fasting. It is funny how much consuming food is a part of our daily life. Well I hope you all do well with your fasts. I am a little hungry so I need to drink some lemonade!

Veggie Mel - I know what you mean about the energy thing. When I am fasting I am way more tired than I normally am. Glad you are feeling good today!

[Morn]

Starfire - I think you are consuming enough. I myself make 2 Liters a day and it is rare if I finish it. I totally know what you mean about looking through recipes while fasting. I have done it before too. But it is nice cause you can plan what you really want when you get off your fast and look forward to it. Anything tastes good after a couple weeks of fasting!:D

Well I gotta go make dinner for my SAD family. I do hate cooking when I am fasting!:(

[joyfulGIRL]

Day 3 for me. Can I jump-in here? :) Had a wheatgrass shot today in addition to the green juices. I am all out of lemons, so I had to take a little juice because today is a major day for me at school...couldnt' afford to water fast and let the detox get the best of me -- not yet. This weekend it can start it's job. ha, I'm directing my own detox. Silly girl.

Need to go to the store and get more lemons tonight after class, and some more cucs (been making cuc juice, too) I think I can do it. DH is fully aware that he's in charge of cooking for himself, especially now, so that's good.

May pick-up some grade B maple syrup if they have any. Or else I will stay with the agave that I have. I like the flavor of maple syrup so much better than agave.

[rubyhair]

the swf doesnt seem to do much for me except make me feel bloated and uncomfortable.
i've been drinking around 90oz of the lemonade everday and a lot of water too, maybe 60-100?
StarFire, it sounds to me that you're taking in plenty of liquids.
last night was bad. my whole left leg hurt contstantly, not matter how i layed or sat and i kept getting a pain in my toe on my right foot. this morning i felt fine.
this is my first cleanse and i'm really suprised by how much energy i have! i have way more energy than i did when i was eating cooked food. i feel good.

i dont know if any of you have sad people in your house or have to even cook for them, if you do, how do you deal with it? the hardest part of the day for me is when i have to cook for my sad eating fiance. especially if he's eating a yummy salad. i'm finding out that i'm more of a social eater. i want to eat when other people are eating around me. i just have to keep telling myself no. any advice?

[StarFire]

starfire, you used to drink 6-8 quarts of master cleanse a day? Wow! That's a lot! Borroughs recommends 60 or more ounces, right? I've been drinking 4 quarts a day, and I thought that was a lot! You must have spent a lot of time juicing lemons. Today I tried juicing lemons through my Champion, but the lemon juice comes out all foamy that way which makes it hard to measure. How do you juice your lemons?
I'm thinking of not doing the swf either. It doesn't seem to be producing any results. I may do tea in the morning instead.


oops!! I probably saw the 6 .. (60 didn't register - nor did the ounces!) so my brain kicked in and since my water bottle is 32 ounces - I just figured ... okay - 6 of these puppies!! :D ahahahah.... oh well....

I line up 3 bottles in the moring and juice the lemons (by hand - takes forever!)... make my potion and I'm off to work! I'm usually thru at least 2 to 2/12 bottles by lunch --- if I've got time - i'll pop home and make two more bottles and get back to work.. if not - I substitute with water until I can get home and make more lemonade! I don't really notice how much Im drinking - cuz I drink just about this much water anyway! I loooooove water!! :D

I tried the SWF once... I swelled up like a balloon! my body was soo achey for 2 days after that - so instead I will use Yogi 'get regular' tea or cascara sagrada to help moooooove things along!

Yeshia!! glad to see you joining us... I dunno - I don't think I would do the SWF twice in a row... seems like a lot of salt in your system. It's supposed to work within 45 minutes to 2 hours after taking it i think....

so ... whats the status report? has it worked yet?

Morn... you are so amazing... I know I need to exercise while I'm fasting ... I think I'm being such a baby about this whole thing!!! http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/babysmiley.gif... I'll get around it though -- gotta get this body moving!

joyfulGirrrrrl... great idea to have a shot of wheat grass... wish I could do that too... but i don't have a wheat grass juicer, and it's too far to drive to the closest hfs to get a shot! so -- have one for me too!!

ruby... dh has been sick - so I haven't had to cook for him (plus he does most of his own cooking anyway -- lucky me!!) Just remember WHY you are doing this... the benefits will amaze you... and bless you!! so keep on keepin on!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif ... we're doin it RAWBIES.... it's going to be a lovely end to a great year... and a FABULOUS beginning to an AMAZING YEAR!! rawk on!!

[Firicia]

Hey everyone, hope your fasts are going good. I am still trying to ease into mine, it's not a mc so I guess I can't be here with you ladies talking about it.

My roomie asked me a question so I thought I would post it in a couple places and see what people think. Ok so he asked if someone was say doing a 30 juice fast and drank alcohol while fasting what would happen to them. He asked about just a little wine, and then asked also about if they had say 4 regular drinks.

I couldn't really help him out other then thinking they'd be pretty smashed from not having food in thier belly, but I think he is wondering if it could kill someone or damage thier liver forever.

Has anyone ever heard any info on this I could pass onto my roomie? He's not a faster I think he is just currious because I am always trying to juice, hehe.;)

[cayako]

Hi Everyone!

What a day! sounds like everyone is doing well and feeling detoxy. I know that I am.

Starfire- I am so glad to hear that your kidney hurts...mine has been hurting for two days now and I thought that my body was not reacting well, but come to think of it, I feel like every part of my body that has been injured has been coming back in painful memories...detoxing is so bizarre!!

Firicia- I don;'t know the answer to your question, but I hope that someone does. I wouldn't drink too much, but a little couldn't hurt. Certainly would be a cheap date;)

Good job everyone!

ciao,

[StarFire]

My roomie asked me a question so I thought I would post it in a couple places and see what people think. Ok so he asked if someone was say doing a 30 juice fast and drank alcohol while fasting what would happen to them. He asked about just a little wine, and then asked also about if they had say 4 regular drinks.



well, I'm no dr - so I'll be answering from my 'rawbie logical brain' ... which may or mayNOT be all that logical!! :D

I would say - youre right - the person would be pretty drunk. Although- take into account how long the person had been fasting - what their tolerance level was to alcohol in the first place.

I don't think it would necessairly 'kill' anyone... (course I dunno) do I think it would damage their liver?? perhaps not permanently -- but I think it would definitely NOT BE GOOD FOR THE LIVER or kidneys while fasting especially...

but over all -- I think if someone is going to drink - they might as well eat too - b/c they are in the process of cleansing their systems, then turning around and putting poison and toxins right back in :eek: . Not very logical imho! So - what would be the point of fasting?

I think if someone wants to drink - they are better off eating a balanced diet - raw or otherwise so there is some kind of buffer between the intesity of the toxins from the alcohol to their body which is now open and clean and more sensitive to toxins... not a very good idea... kind've defeating the purpose if you know what i mean!!

rawk on!!

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[Morn]

the swf doesnt seem to do much for me except make me feel bloated and uncomfortable.
i've been drinking around 90oz of the lemonade everday and a lot of water too, maybe 60-100?
StarFire, it sounds to me that you're taking in plenty of liquids.
last night was bad. my whole left leg hurt contstantly, not matter how i layed or sat and i kept getting a pain in my toe on my right foot. this morning i felt fine.
this is my first cleanse and i'm really suprised by how much energy i have! i have way more energy than i did when i was eating cooked food. i feel good.

i dont know if any of you have sad people in your house or have to even cook for them, if you do, how do you deal with it? the hardest part of the day for me is when i have to cook for my sad eating fiance. especially if he's eating a yummy salad. i'm finding out that i'm more of a social eater. i want to eat when other people are eating around me. i just have to keep telling myself no. any advice?

I know what you mean about still having to cook for the family while fasting. It really is no fun!:( But at least we have one another!

[Morn]

Today I Christmas shopped, and began wrapping presents. It is Day 3 of my fast and I still feel occasionally pangs of hunger. Most likely head hunger. I am also getting cold as my metabolism is lowering. I am down the 138 today and before this fast is over would like to be at 130 but I don't know if this is doable or not. I still need to squeeze in my exercise for today and make dinner so I have to go.

Below is a link of my family as elves. I am the one on the right. It is too cute. Check it out!

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1167785946

[VeggieMel]

I've been cooking SAD food all day and having a very stressful day. It's been very tempting. I'm feeling sort of down, but I haven't gone off the cleanse.
The elf video is soooo cute, Morn!!

[StarFire]

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1205269408 (http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1205269408)

tryin to see if this works... hehehe... okay - it works -- thanks Morn... I saw beppas dancing elves and yours were so cute too... so I had to make my lil rawbie family!

the black dog is dh's best friend Hokulea -- and of course there's Princess Li'i in her goggles... I'm the one with the least facial hair... (thank god!) ;)

rawk on!! and the fasting is going great!! Day 6!! whoot!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/RainUmbrella.gif ... still raining in Hawaii!!

[Morn]

Thanks Veggie Mel and good job staying on course even in spite of all the stress. Mentally I am struggling too. I think it is because I have so many days still in front of me. Well just think of all of those SAD calories you are saving and the cleansing your body is doing!

[Morn]

Ok Starfire - you guys look great and my 5 year old daughter laughed so hard at the dogs. She loved them! Nice touch!

[StarFire]

thanks Morn!!! you were my inspiration!! :D

Okay rawbies... time for a little huddle... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/smiley_huggrouphuggle.gif ....

let's take a look at what we're doin here....

picture a clear vase... filled with beautiful crystal clear water....

take a dropper filled with toxic waste... put one drop in the water... what happens to the water? it's no longer pure. the more drops you put in the clear vase... the more muddy the water.

YEARS OF MUDDY WATER, AND (for me SLUDGE too! :eek: )... so what are we trying to do... no change that... what are we DOING ???

We are changing our LIVES... changing our FUTURE...
no mental battle here... cuz rawbies... it's a no brainer... WE ARE WORTH IT.

we will be going forward into a new year ... with vibrant health - giving our selves the opportunity to allow our DEEPEST TRUE SELVES to grow and blossom... HOW AWESOME IS THAT???

we are sooo blessed to be on this path... it is worth every moment of this cleanse ... so we pass up a moment of food...

what -- if we don't eat right then .. right NOW... will the food be forever gone?
no....

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thththc8fce496-1.jpg ... TOGETHER rawbies... we're gunna do this...

RAWK on....

[StarFire]

btw...

detox... detox... detox... sigh...

yep -- detox is my friend... :rolleyes:

todays symptoms include .... BUMPY SKIN... yep - a few tiny bumpies appearing on my body -- arms, back, chest and a couple of small pimples on my chin -- 51 and still breaking out :eek: !! sigh... very strange.

also -- I was soooo SERIOUSLY COLD last night http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/freezinsmile1.gif -- THANK YOU MORN for explaining in your post why that happens... I had to get out of bed and put sweat pants on, and a sweat shirt, and socks.... and i still froze... it was as though I was chilled to the bone. Granted - we do have rain right now -- but realistically although it is very cold to me -- it's only about 68 to maybe 70 degrees... and I realize that those of you that have to deal with snow probably think I'm nuts...but well... I thought I was going to get frost bite last night!!!

But the MOST AMAZING THING HAPPENED... and this is SOOOO weird.
See - I have these metal plates in my neck - and when it rains or it's cold - my neck usually HURTS -- pretty bad.... I can ALWAYS TELL before a rain storm comes - cuz my neck will start hurting.
this storm was predicted - and it was a pretty big storm.. I could see the dark clouds --- but for some very WEIRD reason...my neck didn't hurt thru the ENTIRE STORM... even though the rest of my body was frozen... there was LITERALLY NO PAIN IN MY NECK!! how AWESOME is that?!!

was it due to this fast? I dunno!

howz everyone else doin out there???

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thursday.gif

[VeggieMel]

Thanks, Starfire. You're good at putting things in perspective.

[joyfulGIRL]

Day 4 is in the books!

I am cold, too! It's really bad sometimes! And no matter how many clothes I put on, I sit shivering at work! Brrr! Then again, it's winter in MN. Boo.

Lots of MC lemonade today, no green juice or wheatgrass or anything.

I have noticed that my body definitely shuts down and tells me when it's time for bed...like right now...I am getting really tired.

good night, sleep tight! :)

[cayako]

Starfire- you're the best...ever consider being a life coach or motivational speaker?

I am also feeing SOO cold. It's amazing how cold it is. I put on two down comfortors for my bed tonight....

I am feeling kind of mad and crappy right now. I'm going to go to bed and hopefully wake up a new woman. well, maybe a woman with less toxins.

I lost 16 pounds since Nov 1st!! I'm not sure how much i've lost on the cleanse because I didn't weigh myself when I started, but I'm at the same weight I was when i stopped eating raw.....so that's a great sign for me to continue where I left off when I'm done with the cleanse!

Goodnight all!

[Yeshia]

thanks Morn!!! you were my inspiration!!

Okay rawbies... time for a little huddle...


let's take a look at what we're doin here....

picture a clear vase... filled with beautiful crystal clear water....

take a dropper filled with toxic waste... put one drop in the water... what happens to the water? it's no longer pure. the more drops you put in the clear vase... the more muddy the water.

YEARS OF MUDDY WATER, AND (for me SLUDGE too! :eek: )... so what are we trying to do... no change that... what are we DOING ???

We are changing our LIVES... changing our FUTURE...
no mental battle here... cuz rawbies... it's a no brainer... WE ARE WORTH IT.

we will be going forward into a new year ... with vibrant health - giving our selves the opportunity to allow our DEEPEST TRUE SELVES to grow and blossom... HOW AWESOME IS THAT???

we are sooo blessed to be on this path... it is worth every moment of this cleanse ... so we pass up a moment of food...

what -- if we don't eat right then .. right NOW... will the food be forever gone?
no....

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thththc8fce496-1.jpg ... TOGETHER rawbies... we're gunna do this...

RAWK on....


Thank you for that Star:)

Well its day 1 AGAIN:eek:

That wagon is proving VERY hard to climb back on again lol.

The salt did not do anything so I took a Fibre Plus It was all I had and it left me feeling rally bloated yuk

I am making a short term goal Today Saturday and Sunday - 3 days- If it kills me!

My physio says I can start exercising again so I will start with the rebounder this weekend at home.

Fingers crossed, :Mind over matter"

But where is my mind? I ask my self.

Permenantly in bed I think

Fingers crossed I WILL make it through this day !!!!!!!

"I think I can, I think I can...I WILL"

[Yeshia]

Here is mine

Me, Miss Lily , Lord Foxworth and my son Kai

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1213743477

lol

[rubyhair]

I know what you mean about still having to cook for the family while fasting. It really is no fun!:( But at least we have one another!

i couldnt do it without you guys! it's so great to have the support and people who understand what you're going through.

[cayako]

yo yo yeshia! you can do it!!! it's hard, true, but if it weren't, it wouldn't feel so good either! and you've done it before, so you can do it again!

i'm feeling so much better this morning. i was so grumpy last night. I think that it's true about my body telling me when to go to bed...and I stayed up a little too late past that time! i'm going to get some errands done and rest today. perhaps meditate. om...............to all.

have a fantastical day! let's go DAY 7!!!!!!!

[Morn]

Today I Christmas shopped and worked out at the club with a friend. I felt a little weak today especially when I was working out. Kinda like I don’t have all the fuel I normally do. Day 4 of my fast and I am down to 137 which is the lowest I went down to on my last fast. For whatever reason I am not enjoying this fast as much as others I have done in the past. I feel like I am hungry even though I know physically I shouldn't need to eat. Today my tongue was also coated pretty good. Consumed:

Mastercleanse Lemonade
water
Laxative tea

[Morn]

Cayako and Starfire and anyone else who is cold. I just got this tip from Path301. You may know him. He asks me:

"Do you have one of those garlic clove smasher?
take small chucks of ginger and smash out the juice and put it into water or juice mixture, to help with the warming of your body. Also you can soak kale leaves in some water and then juice a bunch of it and drink that juice as well to keep you warm."

I think it may be worth a try! I just need to go out and buy some ginger.

[joyfulGIRL]

Day 5 success. :D

I feel like I have really put myself in the mindset and position to succeed.

Question: Does anyone really buy into the whole "fasting ruins your metabolism" thing? I was thinking about this today. Isn't it a lot more profitable for the diet industry if everyone keeps chowing down SAD food and protein so they don't go into "starvation mode". :confused:

I have only experienced positives from this fast. It's too bad that there's such a negative connotation with fasting in this society.

What do you think?

[VeggieMel]

Fasting has been used since biblical times and by many cultures and religions. It's quite a time honored, universal method of cleansing physically and spiritually. I don't care what our modern society says, I think it's good for you.

[Svadhyaya]

I actually do think fasting for lengthy periods of time can mess up your metabolism and cause your body to shift into starvation mode. When you begin eating again after a fast, your body holds onto every calorie for dear life. I've read alot of evidence, research and testimonies over several years to come to the conclusion that fasting for weight loss is not a good idea, nor does it work in the long run.
Fasting for short periods, on the other hand, in order to heal specific health conditions is often a very good thing, allowing your body's energy to be diverted from digesting food to healing a malady. When you are well, however, I don't think fasting performs any good purpose.

I know my opinion on this puts me into the minority here, as fasting often and for long periods of time seems to be popular on these boards.

[joyfulGIRL]

Fasting has been used since biblical times and by many cultures and religions. It's quite a time honored, universal method of cleansing physically and spiritually. I don't care what our modern society says, I think it's good for you.


I agree, Mel. Well-stated.

Thanks for sharing your opinion, Svadhyaya. By how many days would you define short vs. long fast? Just curious, you seem well-versed in this subject. For instance, I have noticed in just 5 days that my skin has gone from broken out all over to clear! In 5 days! It's really amazing. I assume this means that there was/is someting in need of cleansing in my body.

How do you know when it has been long enough?

I am a definite newbie to fasting, so just interested in gathering some feedback! Thanks guys!

[cayako]

Morn- That is such a good idea about keeping warm! I am going to go do it right now.

Day 7 is almost done! I almost broke down today when I was making gomashio for the BF...oi.

[StarFire]

Cayako and Starfire and anyone else who is cold. I just got this tip from Path301. You may know him. He asks me:

"Do you have one of those garlic clove smasher?
take small chucks of ginger and smash out the juice and put it into water or juice mixture, to help with the warming of your body. Also you can soak kale leaves in some water and then juice a bunch of it and drink that juice as well to keep you warm."

I think it may be worth a try! I just need to go out and buy some ginger.

brrrrrr.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/freezinsmile1.gif ... thanks Morn! I'll definitely give it a try. I'm so very cold -- I slept again last night with sweats, sweatshirt, and long underwear under THAT! plus socks!!! --- before i warmed up and finally fell asleep. I don't ever remember being THIS cold before. My energy level is great - I'm feeling quite strong actually... but I am fffffreeeeeezing!!!

YESHIA... CUTE!! Your lil black dog looks like my dh's baby!!! and the one on the end... looks like a sheltie? very pretty... and your son is quite the cutie!! Does he know that yu 'elfed him?' aahahahahaaa!!

well... we're headed in to the home stretch of one week rawbies... whew... (or at least I'm headed in to the 1 week stretch...) ! I know some of us started on different days ... regardless of what day you're on ... WE'RE DOIN GREAT!!!

into the new year... looking rawmacious... feeling rawmacious.... and Vibrant!!

rawk on rawbies...

some body hug me so I can warm up!!! http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/tha857f08c.gif

[Morn]

Today I would like to get up the Christmas tree and get some stuff done around the house. Today is day 5 and I had a hard time getting out of bed this morning. I was tired and when I first got up felt dizzy and very weak. I have been drinking very little of my lemonade probably under a liter a day so that might have something to do with it. So I will see how this goes. My husband said I might need to end this fast early. I don’t want to as I am not down to the weight I want to be at yet. I would like to lose another 5 pounds before I quit cause I know I will probably gain back 5 pounds after I stop fasting (today I am at a new low of 135). I also need to do more juicing. I think I will do all limes this time to give me some variation. I also like the way the limes taste better. My tongue was also coated pretty good again today. If I regain my strength I will do some exercise, if not I will take the day off.

I myself am doing this to cleanse as well as for weight loss. For me eating a raw diet and doing these fasts have helped get my body past plateaus that I seem to be stuck at. Everytime I end my fast I do gain back a few pounds, however, for me in the long run I think it is worth it if I can still maintain at least half of the weight I have lost and thus far I have been able to do that being on the Mastercleanse lemonade. So for me fasting has been a win as far as weight loss goes. This is my fourth one thus far. It is the only thing (along with exercise) that seems to work for me anymore.

[StarFire]

I actually do think fasting for lengthy periods of time can mess up your metabolism and cause your body to shift into starvation mode. When you begin eating again after a fast, your body holds onto every calorie for dear life. I've read alot of evidence, research and testimonies over several years to come to the conclusion that fasting for weight loss is not a good idea, nor does it work in the long run.
Fasting for short periods, on the other hand, in order to heal specific health conditions is often a very good thing, allowing your body's energy to be diverted from digesting food to healing a malady. When you are well, however, I don't think fasting performs any good purpose.

I know my opinion on this puts me into the minority here, as fasting often and for long periods of time seems to be popular on these boards.


Aloha Svadhyaya! Always good to hear other opinons!
I think it is VITALLY important - HOW a fast is broken -- as to whether or not your body goes into 'starvation' mode. (my personal opinion of course)... but when you break your fast with wisdom, and slowly ... this allows your body the opportunity to gently get back into the swing of processing, digesting and handling foods again. Breaking the fast is just as important as the fast itself... and ideally - it should take half as long to break a fast ... as it did to fast.

Fasting on this board for long periods of time ... popular?? hmmmm.... I dunno about that - I do think tho that everyone is on their own journey. There will always be some that are fasting... some that are eating more fruit - some that are eating more veggies. We are drawing from such a diverse group of people that you will find A LOT of things going on here. But to have a thread where fasters can gather may cause it to look like this forum encourages long fasts ... however... it does not.

This forum is to support those choosing to follow the LIVING ON LIVE FOODS LIFESTYLE as taught by Alissa. We are just blessed that Alissa allows us this space to discuss other things that are going on in our daily lives.... fasting being one of them.

I love to fast. I do short fasts perhaps one meal... or one day a week, or - a day or two month... however I feel led. I also do a longer fast several times a year. My reasons are varied, for spiritual reasons .... and for my health, to give my body a rest, to cleanse from toxins, and to encourage my body to get thru plateaus, and possibly to lose a few pounds that have snuck in there!!

I absolutey believe that even if I am well... my body STILL benefits from occasional fasts... but then again... that is my humble opinon!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thawwaherst.gif ... Rawk on!!

[StarFire]

Hey rawbies... an interesting thing happened to me last night.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/1422.gif

my tummy started growling -- like it was hungry BUT I DIDN'T FEEL hungry...

I had just finished my last MC drink for the evening -- (about 30min earlier) so it was kinda odd....

the rumbling got really loud and there was a bit of discomfort starting... so I thought ... hmmmm.... maybe I should just drink a glass of water or something. I got up poured myself about 8 ounces of water - and then my body wanted me to add some maple syrup to it ... no cayenne - no lemons - just the syrup... odd.... but okay - so I added about 1 heaping teaspoon to the water - stirred it up - drank it ... and it was like my body just went...


ahhhhhhhhh..... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/SmileyFaces.gif thank you!

gurgling stopped, odd pains stopped... and the weirdest thing of all -- there was such a sense of 'calm' that came over me... this very peaceful feeling -- my whole body seemed balanced, stable. AND... I slept better last night than I have in 2 months. :eek: odd isn't it???

I know there are miconutrients in the maple syrup - and whatever it did to my body ... my body was satisfied... and very happy with that little snippit of nutrition!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/smiley_huggrouphuggle.gif ... rawk on rawbies...

[joyfulGIRL]

Hangin' in there today - day 6. 2 oil pulling sessions today and lots of sticky, gluey mucous in the back of my throat. The OP really helps that stuff come out. But when the heck is it going to quit? So yucky.

My energy is low today. I'm cold and sick of lemonade. It's funny how things can change from day to day. Just gotta keep reminding myself to flow with what my body says, instead of letting my head get the best of me.

I think this may have something to do with going to the holiday party today, bringing an awesome raw dessert, and not being able to eat any of it or anything else...just sat at the table with my nalgene bottle feeling peole staring at me because I didn't have a plate full of stuff.

But, then I come home, look in the mirror, and see how my skin is clear, face is brighter and that makes me remember why I am doing this.

[Morn]

Hangin' in there today - day 6. 2 oil pulling sessions today and lots of sticky, gluey mucous in the back of my throat. The OP really helps that stuff come out. But when the heck is it going to quit? So yucky.

My energy is low today. I'm cold and sick of lemonade. It's funny how things can change from day to day. Just gotta keep reminding myself to flow with what my body says, instead of letting my head get the best of me.

I think this may have something to do with going to the holiday party today, bringing an awesome raw dessert, and not being able to eat any of it or anything else...just sat at the table with my nalgene bottle feeling peole staring at me because I didn't have a plate full of stuff.

But, then I come home, look in the mirror, and see how my skin is clear, face is brighter and that makes me remember why I am doing this.


Good for you - I know it is hard going to events and parties while fasting. But good for you that you stayed focused and strong. I look at it as an opportunity to really focus and connect with people and their conversation instead of being side tracked with food. I think too much of our emphasis and social time revolves so much around food instead of simply enjoying one another!:)

[Morn]

Starfire - I wonder if that would work for me too! I have felt hungry lately but I have tired of the lemonade so quickly this time and I am barely drinking any of it.

I feel a bit better after drinking about 16 ozs of it today in my squirt bottle. It is funny because over the last 3 days I fill up my squirt bottle and have so much left over at the end of the day. But this time since I was so weak and dizzy I drank the whole thing and I feel better. At least good enough that I complete some light exercising. Still haven't made it to the store for some ginger though so I am still cold - hugs to you to warm us both up!

Oh and I could say ditto to about everything else you said. God has given you some great wisdom!:)

Now I am off to have some maple syrup in some water and juice my limes! Thanks for the suggestion!

[joyfulGIRL]

Can one drink too much lemonade? I am hungry and have been drinking more than usual today. 2 nalgene bottles full so far -- one before the party, and one during the party -- 64 oz. total. And I am ready to make more to feel satisfied. Fighting off this hunger is no fun!

I want to quit. There, I said it.
:eek:

[Morn]

Joyfulgirl - yes drink as much as you find necessary to be comfortable. I myself wasn't drinking enough and it cost me yesterday. Also try putting some more maple syrup in your water like Starfire suggested. It does help!

Oh and I know what you mean about wanting to be done - hang in there. This too shall pass and before you know it it will be over. Enjoy the extra time you have that you would be spending on shopping for food, fixing food, eating, etc.

You can do this!

[Morn]

Today is day 6 of my fast and I am down to another new low of 134. I am estatic that I am so close to my goal weight. I might even see a glimpse of it by the end of this fast. I know I won’t be able to maintain it though once I get off because I always gain back 3-5 pounds. But it will be nice to see what it feels like to be at or so close to my goal weight. Well anyway I need to work out today and then I want to clean out the old refrigerator (while it is fairly empty). It really needs it.

[cayako]

Hola fasters!!!

everyone is doing great! it's so hard, but it feels so good!!! I am very excited that the cleanse is coming to a close, but realize now that I need to be just as focused on the post fasting thing. Anyone have suggestions? I just realized that I will need to do more research on this end for that.

Joyful Girl, good for you for saying what you need to say! Sometimes just saying it helps, but you're on day 6! (maybe now 7 or 8?) and it's all downhill from here! you can do it! I was with my nalgene all last night at the party too and more than anything, I got to hear a lot of stories from people about how they either succeeded or didn't and in the end, it's YOUR experience.

sending out WARM, FILLING LEMONY VIBES to everyone:)

ciao!

[Nayeli_Raw]

Hola All,

I decided to join all of you. I am doing the MC for just today. I may continue through tomorrow as well. I followed a link in another post that had some fabulous info about detoxing and it suggested trying to for one or two days before you go for a full on 10-30 days cleanse. So I am trying a 1-2 day. I am not making a commitment for tomorrow quite yet because I will be really busy at work and I don't want to be showing symptoms to my clients.. in other words, I don't want to be irritable or dizzy while working.

I have had two 12 oz. cups of the lemon/maple drink and I feel fine. I'm not hungry at all. I was craving this morning, but I don't feel hungry at all.

I bought some of Casacara Sagrada Bark (sp??) that Starfire suggested. It says to take two capsels before bed, I am a little bummed because the only ones I could find were made with gelatin, so they aren't vegan. Anyway I have to work early in the morning and I don't know how it will effect me so I am thinking I am going to take 1 pill tonight around 5 or 6 and see what happens tomorrow. Then if it works well I will try the 2 pills before bed tomorrow night!

So you have mentioned a few times that easing out of the fast is important. It should take half as long as the fast its self. So for those of you on the 10 day MC are you going to start drinking juices for the first 5 days and start eating small meals of food??

[StarFire]

Morn!! wow!! 134!! That's great! and I'm glad the maple syrup in water helped you too... wierd isn't it?

today is day 9 for me. So far so good. Yesterday was VERY challenging -- we had to go to town - which usually means a stop at our favorite Thai restaurant... they have some beautiful salads and fabulous raw spring rolls... :eek: ... but I drank my drink and was not tempted... gotta tell ya though - the thought did float thru my brain.... eeeeaaaaatttttt..... eeeeeeaaaattttt.....!!!

but - no worries -- it was all good.

today I am making the chocolate mousse cake with raspberry sauce for a hula banquet tomorrow... I'm sure I'll be fending off a lot of questions there... why aren't you eating... are you sick.... here -- eat!! eat!! (and of course much of the meal will be MEATS, PORK... rice, sad foods like macaroni potato salad swimming in Mayonaise -- aaccckk... gag...!!!

PEYTONA... its a great idea to see how your body reacts to the cascara sagrada before taking two capsules!! :eek: I usually only take one! but it will definitely get the gunk out of you!!

EVERYONE IS DOING SOOO GREAT!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif .... rawk on!!!

[Morn]

Peytonamoura - welcome to the thread! To ease out of the mastercleanse and transition back to eating it is recommended that for 2 days you do fresh squeezed orange juice and then on the third day you can have some fresh fruit and stuff like a garden salad (stuff that is easy to digest). The fourth day you can go back to eating an all raw diet. For those going back to eating SAD it takes even longer to transition cause they need to do 2 days of oj., then a vegetable soup for a few days and then 1 raw eating day and by the fifth day I think they can go back to the normal SAD routine. I think At least that is what I remember reading in the Stanley Burroughs Mastercleanse PDF. But generally speaking the slower you go back to eating the better.

[Morn]

Starfire - thanks. Oh and good job standing strong and not going to the Thai restaurant! If you are on day 9 and there are leftovers maybe you could save some of that chocolate mousse cake for later in the week. Oh and congratulations on TREE STATUS! Wow you got there quick!:D I wish I was on day 9!:( Are you doing 10 days or are you going longer?

[joyfulGIRL]

Joyfulgirl - yes drink as much as you find necessary to be comfortable. I myself wasn't drinking enough and it cost me yesterday. Also try putting some more maple syrup in your water like Starfire suggested. It does help!

Oh and I know what you mean about wanting to be done - hang in there. This too shall pass and before you know it it will be over. Enjoy the extra time you have that you would be spending on shopping for food, fixing food, eating, etc.

You can do this!


Thank you so much, Morn. Your words are really encouraging. Let me be honest, I ate about 5 raspberries last night. DOH!:o I thought yesterday would never end. It was excruciating to fight it all. day. long. Nobody should feel this guilty for eating berries, of all things! They were left over from the stuff I made for the party.

I also think I may have sabotaged myself by working out too much yesterday, so that's probably why I felt SO extremely hungry all night. Today I am taking it easier.

But, like I said before, I have to keep channeling my energy to the goals and reasons for doing this -- not what I'm missing out on.

Today I am back on 100%. Nothing all day except now a lemonade at 3:30pm. I feel like I'm back on track today. And I don't feel hungry. Ahh, that's a relief.

Maybe it's the emotions coming up or something, but it's REALLY CRAZY how things can go from in control for days to out of control at the drop of a hat. But now I am back in control, so I am hoping the berries didn't screw with my progress too much.

Morn - way to go on the weight loss! Woot! YOU GO GIRL! :p :D :p

[Morn]

Joyfulgirl - don't worry about the raspberries. No biggie! By the way are you on day 6 too? And how long to you plan on going?

[joyfulGIRL]

Hola fasters!!!

everyone is doing great! it's so hard, but it feels so good!!! I am very excited that the cleanse is coming to a close, but realize now that I need to be just as focused on the post fasting thing. Anyone have suggestions? I just realized that I will need to do more research on this end for that.

Joyful Girl, good for you for saying what you need to say! Sometimes just saying it helps, but you're on day 6! (maybe now 7 or 8?) and it's all downhill from here! you can do it! I was with my nalgene all last night at the party too and more than anything, I got to hear a lot of stories from people about how they either succeeded or didn't and in the end, it's YOUR experience.

sending out WARM, FILLING LEMONY VIBES to everyone:)

ciao!

Yep, day 7 (that is, if my 5 raspberries last night don't take me back to day 1...boo.)

Breaking the fast is as important, if not moreso, than the fast itself. From what I have been reading, take OJ to break it for a day and then start incorporating blended soups, etc.

I am sure the other fasters are much more educated on this than I am, though! :)

[joyfulGIRL]

Joyfulgirl - don't worry about the raspberries. No biggie! By the way are you on day 6 too? And how long to you plan on going?

Hi Morn,

I'm on day 7. (ETA: How long are you going to keep going?)

Honestly, I didn't start with a particular goal in mind. If the rest of the days feel like today, well, I would be fine going for a while more. Ideally, it would be really great to make it till the 22nd -- that's another 13 days. :cool:

Maybe that's shooting too high being as it is my first MC.

My goal is that my face is clear, glowing and de-puffed when we start to travel for the holiday season. I am afraid that if I end the MC too soon before the 22nd that I will start breaking out again and lose all the things I have gained thus far.


Would 13 more days be an unrealistic goal?


Starfire - wow! day 9! You're my hero! :p RAWK IT, GIRL!



Oh! One more thing, I was reading on the curezone boards last night and they're really strict with the amounts of lemonade... That's why I asked last night if I could keep drinking it or not! I got all paranoid over there because there was such a strict regimen.

[joyfulGIRL]

Besides feeling hungry and down in the dumps yesterday, I haven't really had any detox symptoms. My mentality is "no pain, no gain" --- ya know? Mentally I feel like I'm not getting the complete benefits of this fast if I am not physically feeling it happen.

Then again, clearing skin and mucus coming out after OP is a sign of detoxing, so maybe I just answered my own question. Hee hee. ;)

ETA : Have you all been straining the pulp from the lemon juice? Does the pulp keep the digestive system firing? I have been trying to strain most days, except yesterday, and we all see how hungry I was. Hmmm...interesting observation.

[Yeshia]

yo yo yeshia! you can do it!!! it's hard, true, but if it weren't, it wouldn't feel so good either! and you've done it before, so you can do it again!

i'm feeling so much better this morning. i was so grumpy last night. I think that it's true about my body telling me when to go to bed...and I stayed up a little too late past that time! i'm going to get some errands done and rest today. perhaps meditate. om...............to all.

have a fantastical day! let's go DAY 7!!!!!!!

Thank you,

Finally the end of day 2:D

[Yeshia]

brrrrrr.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/freezinsmile1.gif ... thanks Morn! I'll definitely give it a try. I'm so very cold -- I slept again last night with sweats, sweatshirt, and long underwear under THAT! plus socks!!! --- before i warmed up and finally fell asleep. I don't ever remember being THIS cold before. My energy level is great - I'm feeling quite strong actually... but I am fffffreeeeeezing!!!

YESHIA... CUTE!! Your lil black dog looks like my dh's baby!!! and the one on the end... looks like a sheltie? very pretty... and your son is quite the cutie!! Does he know that yu 'elfed him?' aahahahahaaa!!

well... we're headed in to the home stretch of one week rawbies... whew... (or at least I'm headed in to the 1 week stretch...) ! I know some of us started on different days ... regardless of what day you're on ... WE'RE DOIN GREAT!!!

into the new year... looking rawmacious... feeling rawmacious.... and Vibrant!!

rawk on rawbies...

some body hug me so I can warm up!!! http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/tha857f08c.gif

he he thanks Star

My son just turned 18 he knows I Elfed him,,,but not that I posted it hehehehhe:)

We had a great morning with my Preschoolers I Elfed them all and sent to thier parents at work we all laughed our selfs silly lol

[StarFire]

Oh and congratulations on TREE STATUS! Are you doing 10 days or are you going longer?


OMG!!! I'M A TREE http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thexcited.gif !!! I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE ... OH HOW EXCITING http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/smiley_danceegyptian.gif .... I hope I'm an avocado tree!!!! :D

I will probably go longer than the 10 days. I'm watching my detox symptoms -- right now my tongue is still coated in the mornings. I'll see how I'm feeling - but since it's the end of the year - I think I really should go until my tongue clears up and gets pretty and pink again. Then I can start out the new year all clean and vibrant!!! yippeeee!!

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff133/diansw/dancingtree.jpg .... wow... now that a Goddess Tree!!!

[StarFire]

just wanted to share this web site... I have this article bookmarked - I review it when I'm fasting - just to remind myself what I'm doing and why....

There is some interesting information here!! Although I think there are different types of fasts - not just water fasts, the information is really interesting.

http://www.healthpromoting.com/Articles/articles/benefit.htm

Also - if yu haven't already found this website about the Master Cleanse - this also has some great info on it... http://www.bc1.com/~vitagem/Master_Cleanser.htm


RAWK ON!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/Summer.gif

[Vivafree2]

Thanks ! I think i will go for juice fast next month - at least i am considering it so i will be more ready for rawmance in March!!!!

[cayako]

It's Day 10!!! woohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! but who knew it's still so hard? So easy to discard the last day. You know, I don't have any oranges or orange juice...I am really feeling eating kale with a little olive oil and salt. I was also planning on starting the probiotics today to get a jump head on lining it.

Joyful Girl- Of course you can do it the 22nd! You should go for your goal!!

Morn- Thanks for the advice on the post cleanse regimen. I am definitley doing miso soup and seaweed tomorrow. look at me..already talking about food....*sigh* sorry guys. It's how I am today:(

Pey-I really used Starfire's advice when she said to just drink a bunch of lemonade whenever you felt hungry. and if you keep doing it, you aren't hungry anymore. Good luck!

Well, I've really enjoyed the sharing the December Cleanse with all of you! What a wonderful group of people. Go raw!

[StarFire]

Rawk on Cayako and congratulations on reaching your goal!! Eat somthing rawlicious for us!!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/santa_smiley.gif

[StarFire]

omg.... I just put tooo much cayenne in my drink.... :eek:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/chilli.gif

[joyfulGIRL]

omg.... I just put tooo much cayenne in my drink.... :eek:

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/chilli.gif

Ha ha ha. You're so cute.

And thanks for the links to the articles yesterday. I read them today at work. :)

[joyfulGIRL]

It's Day 10!!! woohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! but who knew it's still so hard? So easy to discard the last day. You know, I don't have any oranges or orange juice...I am really feeling eating kale with a little olive oil and salt. I was also planning on starting the probiotics today to get a jump head on lining it.

Joyful Girl- Of course you can do it the 22nd! You should go for your goal!!

Morn- Thanks for the advice on the post cleanse regimen. I am definitley doing miso soup and seaweed tomorrow. look at me..already talking about food....*sigh* sorry guys. It's how I am today:(

Pey-I really used Starfire's advice when she said to just drink a bunch of lemonade whenever you felt hungry. and if you keep doing it, you aren't hungry anymore. Good luck!

Well, I've really enjoyed the sharing the December Cleanse with all of you! What a wonderful group of people. Go raw!


CONGRATS on DAY 10!! WOOhoo!!!

And thanks for the vote of confidence, that's really motivating! I have had everything right on track since the berry incident, so all is well!

[Morn]

[QUOTE=joyfulGIRL;364097]Hi Morn,

I'm on day 7. (ETA: How long are you going to keep going?)

Honestly, I didn't start with a particular goal in mind. If the rest of the days feel like today, well, I would be fine going for a while more. Ideally, it would be really great to make it till the 22nd -- that's another 13 days. :cool:

Maybe that's shooting too high being as it is my first MC.

My goal is that my face is clear, glowing and de-puffed when we start to travel for the holiday season. I am afraid that if I end the MC too soon before the 22nd that I will start breaking out again and lose all the things I have gained thus far.


Would 13 more days be an unrealistic goal?


QUOTE]


I don't think it is unrealistic at all. I fasted the whole month of July and about 25 days of it was on the MC Lemonade. Go for it!:)

[Morn]

Day 7 and I am just finishing up a 13 hour day at work. I am tired. I guess it is good working and being busy it takes my mind off of not eating. I am so discouraged at how much my universe still revolves around food (or in this case wanting food and not eating but wanting to). I must say that it has been harder fasting in the winter vs. summertime. Anyway woke up the same weight (kinda bummed):( . Well hope you all are staying warm tonight! I need to get out of here now and get home!

[VeggieMel]

I haven't been checking in much, but I've made it to day 10, as well. The next two days will be orange juice, but I'm going to continue the lemonade because I don't think I can make it through a day on orange juice alone.

[StarFire]

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Hello rawbies... ugghhhh... I'm soo nauseated.... utterly absolutely nauseated.... in fact I tried to force myself to throw up last night just to get the stuff out of me... but to no avail..
I just hate throwing up and so my body was like -- NOPE - I'M NOT DOIN IT... NOPE -- YOU CAN SHOVE YOUR ENTIRE ARM DOWN YOUR THROAT - I'M NOT THROWING UP!!! AAACCCKKKKK.... so I had to ride out the nausea which I am STILL DEALING WITH.... uggggghhhhh...

so here's what happened....

I had a hula banquet last night... I went armed with my MC drink - I was doin just fine - and then the food started arriving - and I realized what my hula sisters had done...

a raw feast - prepared for me... omg...

fresh garden salad with little snippets of sprouts and other exotic green thingys the names of which I don't even know...

a raw greek dish with sprouted somthing or others.... THEY SPROUTED THESE GRAINS FOR ME!!!

it was dish after dish of healthy raw stuff...

I didn't know what to do .. or say... everyone was so proud of themselves and their creations... omg....
I was expecting the usual fanfare - pork, chicken, white rice.... instead.... 4 different raw styles of salads... fruit, varieties of raw veggies with raw dips.... the list was endless -- TWO TABLES OF STUFF.... raw hummus with raw crackers.... ughhhh.... way to heavy... blecchhhhh....

I sat there staring at all of this and they're smiling little faces... omg... what to do....

so I graciously smiled and said 'thank you so much...' and proceeded to try just the tinest bit of each dish.... oh gawd... oh gawd.... to break a fast that way is soooooo bad..... but everyone had worked so hard and they were all so proud of their surprise....

then they wanted to dance -- so I danced .... and the entire time my tummy was going.... Oh no you di'int... just put all that food in there... :eek:

oh my.... I was soo ill.... I just couldn't handle how my stomach was hurting... and how nauseated I was... the party finally ended - I got home - headed for the bathroom.... and nothing --- I was destined to suffer.... :( and lemme tell you I suffered all night... and I suffer still!!!

headache, still nauseated... cramps in my tummy... I finally started going potty - getting some of the stuff out... it was just too much - too heavy - even if it was raw - it just was not good on my system.

but I just couldn't disappoint all my hula sisters by not eating this very special meal everyone had worked so hard to create.

So - I'm back on the MC today... and praying that I start feeling better real soon.... sigh... blechhhh....

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[VeggieMel]

Well, the good news is the hula sisters love you a lot! Nice to have friends like that. Was the hummus the heaviest thing you ate? While on this fast, I've been living vicariously through other people's meals. Maybe that's why I'm so interested. I've also been going through recipe books like mad planning what I'm going to eat when I eat again. So tell me, what all did you eat?

By the way, you write a good story. I was really caught up in the drama of your hula party! :D

[joyfulGIRL]

StarFire - so sorry to hear that you're sick. Wow, sounds like one heck of a party! I would have probably felt obligated to eat some of it, too.

Hope that you're feeling better soon! Take care of yourself, girl!

[StarFire]

:( the hummus was very heavy... but also the greek salad... I'm not sure what was in it - maybe quinoa? plus bits of veggies, raw olives, tomatoes, OLIVE OIL.... a strange spice of some kind. I think that might be mostly at fault - the heavy oils in that salad - it was very tasty - but I just couldn't enjoy it fully b/c I could literally feel my body being repulsed by the oil...

that plus the food combining I think did me in. HEAVILY GREEN salad with some very exotic plants added - kinda spicy flavors and these little sprouts - all different shapes and sizes - some were very spicy - some were very bitter. the dressing was poured onto the salad -- AGAIN WITH THE OLIVE OIL... and I think liliquoi fruit in the dressing....

Then there was a beautiful tofu salad (she thought that tofu was raw) but it was beautiful anyway - with tiny precisely cut radishes and carrots and other veggies sitting on a beautiful bed of spinach - with yet again - another kind of dressing made with OLIVE OIL.... ugghhhhh....

raw chickpea hummus.... very heavy.... and fruits of every shape and color...
raw cheesecake with blueberries.... very heavy (although I could barely handle a couple of bites by the time I reached the desserts...) waaay to heavy!!

needless to say - when I do start eating again.... I think I will start with young coconut meat... coconut water, maybe some cucumbers... and that's about it for a while... very simple... very bland.... (well - I don't think coconuts are bland - but they are very soothing to the tummy!)....

in fact - right now the thought of eating a salad TURNS ME GREEN http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/00000018.gif!!! AND I LOOOOOVE SALADS... but I don't think I can even handle that for a while... seriously -that's how ill I am... :(

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/smiley_consoling.gif ... help...

[Morn]

Starfire - hang in there girl! That is so nice what they did for you. I would have done the same too. I hope you feel better soon!

[Morn]

Today is day 8 of my fast and I worked earlier today and then did some shopping, made dinner for the family and worked out. I am so ready to be done with this fast. Everything looks good right about now. I wish I could fast forward to Saturday! But I am happy that I am seeing a new low of 133 today.

[rubyhair]

starfire- i hope you feel better!

yesterday was my last day on the cleanse. i slept better last night than i have in what seems like months. i felt so refreshed this morning. hopefully that will continue.
oh and i got my dehydrator yesterday! it's my christmas gift from my fiance. he gave it to me early so i can make some yummy things for christmas dinner.
this cleanse was great for me. i'll definatly do it again.
good luck everyone!

[joyfulGIRL]

Today is day 8 of my fast and I worked earlier today and then did some shopping, made dinner for the family and worked out. I am so ready to be done with this fast. Everything looks good right about now. I wish I could fast forward to Saturday! But I am happy that I am seeing a new low of 133 today.

Congrats on the new low. Impressive!

[joyfulGIRL]

Day 9 almost done. It has been okay. Managed to make it through a huge party at work today. Seems like the night after a party is a difficult time beacuse I'm craving solid food. But I get right on RFT and take my mind off it.

My quads and back are aching so bad.

Also, there is STILL mucous coming out of me in both directions, if you know what I'm sayin'. All the darn lax tea in this town is sold out, so I have resorted to swiss kriss tablets. Let's just say that what came out was mucousy, almost stringy stuff. More like mucous than solid. Not much, but maybe this is similar to mucoid plaque, I'm not sure. Hoping for more tomorrow. Get it out of me, please!!

Thinking ahead to this weekend - traveling to in-laws for Xmas. Eek! :eek: I am REALLY stressing about what to do. They don't know about raw, let alone fasting. I don't plan on telling them because they already think I'm crazy as it is. Hopefully we can manage to make it a day trip. That's a lot easier to handle than an overnight stay,, etc.

Anyhow, that's it for me today.


P.S. StarFire - I am still thinking about you and hoping that you're feeling better. You can push through! And when you get through, you can pick up right where you left off -- RAWKING!!

[Morn]

Today is day 9 of my fast and I am down another pound to 132. Only 2 more pounds and I will be at the 100 pound mark. I am excited. I worked out earlier at the club and then went to the thifty store to see if I could find some clothes in a size 4 that would fit me better. I found a great pair of jeans that were a whole $2.50. They are my first size 4 pair of jeans and I love them. I am excited that I am nearing day 10 and hoping to lose those last 2 pounds before Saturday. Consumed:

Mastercleanse lemonade

Todays exercise: 50 minutes

[Morn]

congrats on making it through to your goal!

[Morn]

Joyful girl - thanks!:D

[StarFire]

feeelin frisky again!!! .... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thexcited.gif !!

aand I'm sooo glad!!!

[Yeshia]

Hi All

I am soo please that you are all doing so well congrats.

I am still struggling :eek:

I haven't given up and am pretty much back to 100% for most of the day and then am finding the evening's really hard I am craving sweet which I never did before Raw ..go figure.

I start each day out on the master cleanse he he

Well at least I'm not eating sad

So I am with you all on this cleanse but in spirit only it seems :D

[rubyhair]

i started eating again yesterday and omg my stomach was not happy about this. i just had a small salad of greens and dressing of olive oil, acv, sea salt and spices/herbs. i was so bloated and uncomfortable. today i woke up early because my stomach was hurting so much. i am so bloated. is there anything i can eat or drink or whatever to ease this and perhaps ease myself more into eating?

[alicia_2007]

I want to start the MC.. can someone send me in the right direction to see the recipe etc? And the laxative tea.. can it be any organic laxative tea?

[alicia_2007]

o never mind I just found it on another thread! :D

[StarFire]

Goood rawkin morning everyone!!

Morn... you are soo amazing.. can I be you when I grow up!! lol ;) A size 4?? omg -- I could only wish and dream!!! wow!! YOU GO SEXY MAMA!! RAWK ON!!! http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/thyahoo.gif

Yeshia... we're glad you are with us... in spirit - or in body -- we're jes glad youre here!! rawk on!

rubyhair... sweet rubyhair!!! ohhh nooo... so sorry you've got a bloated uncomfortable tummy thing goin on there! (cuz I jes went thru that so I knowz how you feel gir!! :eek: )... there is a very SPECIFIC way to break this fast... it is recommended that you start incorporating orange juice first -- then sloooowly start incorporating foods - it should take a few days to break your fast....

I believe Morn posted how to break the fast back on page 5 --- here's the link http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=35250&page=5

if you break the fast this way - you will find that you will be able to ease right back into the raw foods easily. You and I did it the wrong way - having EVOO right off the bat - so not good for us! good luck and I hope you're feeling better soon!

Alicia 2007 --- so wonderful to have you joining us!!

everyone have a rawmacious fasting day.... today is day 13!! technically day 12 for me since I ate 1 meal Monday night (blecchhhh)....

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/sun.gif ... december is almost half way over ... wow... this month is passing by really FAST!!!

[rubyhair]

i did the orange juice and all that but i guess i should've skipped the olive oil on my salad. oh well. i'm feeling a little better this evening seeing as i've just been drinking water. i havent really been hungry. i guess later i'll try some greens by themselves.

[Morn]

Rubyhair - Did you do 2 straight days of fresh squeezed O.J. only before you ate the salad? The oj is supposed to get your system prepared to eat again. However, I have had a terrible stomach ache prior from the oj as it seems to be pretty acidic. So it could be just the OJ that is bothering you.

At this point I would skip the greens and I would just do some light fruits, i.e. cantelope, watermelon, honeydew, etc. Things that are easy to digest.

I hope you are back to enjoying your food again soon!

[Morn]

Today is day 10 of my fast and I am down another pound to 131. Now I know how I look and feel at my goal weight and I am pretty happy. If I could maintain this it would make me pretty happy. I know I will go up after the fast is over and I am ok with that. History dictates I will gain 2 pounds overnight just from food being in my system. It just means I will probably have to do another fast within a few months to get back down. If I am 5 pounds ahead it will all have been worth it. I worked out this morning at the gym and then did some shopping in the afternoon. I am looking forward to being off of my fast. Tomorrow is fresh squeezed OJ and I am hoping to lose that last pound before I end my fast! Consumed:

Mastercleanse lemonade

1 hour of step aerobics
5 minutes of abdominals

[rawmom2006]

Hi
I am on day one of the mc and I plan to go for 20 days and then to see if I want to go longer. The only thing I worry about is feeling cold.

[VeggieMel]

I started to feel cold on day 8, so you might want to be prepared to be cold. Then again, maybe not everyone gets cold.

[Morn]

Welcome RAwmom 2006 - Best of luck to you on your fast. THat is so awesome that you will be fasting through Christmas. I really admire you. Fasting on holidays can be tough but just keep remembering how many calories you are saving yourself from. and when everyone else around you is getting fat from the feasting you will be looking great! Oh and yes I too am cold everyday (it comes with the territory). I take lots of hot baths - maybe this will help you!

[alicia_2007]

Hi everyone.. I was wondering if there is any benefit for me in starting to drink the lemonade but also having a meal a day till after christmas.. my family have enough issues with me eating raw food let alone if I turned up on christmas day saying I was only going to drink my home made lemonade. So it would sort of be like a transitioning period then Dec 26 it's all on! Would this work or should I just be patient and start after christmas.

Thanks for your help:)

[rubyhair]

Rubyhair - Did you do 2 straight days of fresh squeezed O.J. only before you ate the salad? The oj is supposed to get your system prepared to eat again. However, I have had a terrible stomach ache prior from the oj as it seems to be pretty acidic. So it could be just the OJ that is bothering you.

At this point I would skip the greens and I would just do some light fruits, i.e. cantelope, watermelon, honeydew, etc. Things that are easy to digest.

I hope you are back to enjoying your food again soon!

i noticed that the orange juice upset my stomach too. unfortunatly i dont think i can find those fruits around here being that it's in the middle of winter. but i will look. i did eat some grapes and those seemed to be fine. thanks for the advice.

[cayako]

HOLY CRAP!!! so glad that i logged on today. i have been SOOOO sick that last three days. and still cramping. It was amazing to read starfire's hula feast part because that is similar to what happened to me..except worse.

we got off our cleanse adn didn't do ANYTHING to incorporate back into solid eating. I pretty much went straight back to heavy cooked foods (well, the first day, i did eat miso soup and pickeled veggies..). talk about what not to do!!! i woke up with the worst camps EVER and it took me three tries to get to the outhouse (seriously, food poisoning with an outhouse sucks). I had to stop on the trail three times and wait for the cramping to subside before i could go on. luckily my honey was visiting at the cabin so he could get me all warm everytime i came back. and can we count the number of times i had to go? and i spent all of yesterday sleeping/cramping/trying to BM. and while i feel better, it's still the same today. anyone else been this stupid and experienced this? I'm a little worried because there is blood...would anyone recommend taking charcoal? i'm not much into eating yet.

whew. lots of lessons learned on this one. but on the otherhand, i can really see how i am eating through cravings...and right now, i have NO cravings.

wishing everyone else strength and healing!

[StarFire]

oooo cayakooooo :eek: .... oh my goodness :( ... I'm so sorry you're goin thru this... and having to deal with an outhouse on top of that??? oh girl.... god bless you!

feel better soon... all I can say is - it will pass -- drink lots of juice and water... and the MC drink is very healing at this point!

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/hug.gif... feel better soon....

[Morn]

Today is day 11 of my fast – transition day. Tomorrow morning will be oj and then I will be eating at my family Christmas party what I bring which will be a garden salad and stuff off a veggie tray. I worked out at the gym earlier today and did some shopping. The good news was I finally made it to my goal weight of 130. The news was quickly over shadowed with the fact that my husband got laid off from his job today. I am emotionally drained from the news. We expected it since he hasn’t had a lot of work and the company is financially not doing well - but not a week before Christmas and before his vacation time. I know god has a plan and we are in the palm of his hand – just more stretching time in my faith for me. I am trying not to be upset but I am. Things are very rough here in Michigan with the economy and jobs are not easy to come by. We have the worst unemployment rate out of the 50 states. They also cut my hours way back at work too so I am a bit stressed about the financial aspect of it all and how it will all work out. Well I have to go and make some Christmas cookies as gifts for my family to hand out tomorrow. Consumed.

Mastercleanse lemonade
O.J.

[cayako]

Oh Morn~! I'm so sorry to hear that. I am sending good thoughts your way. It'll work out because it has to!! Be positive and strong...you're a beautiful force.

Starfire- thanks for the encouragement. I am feeling much better now. Back to gentle foods:) umeboshi!

[StarFire]

Morn.. the Lord has covered you and will always take care of his own. Before yu know it - you will be sharing the wonderful testimony of how all of this ended up being a blessing. I am so sorry it is causing you and your family any stress - especially during the holiday season... but it will be okay... your faith is so strong Morn.... all will be fine ---

blessings and His peace protect you and guide you...

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[Morn]

Thanks Starfire and Cayako! I know God is faithful. I have been down this road before and I know it will all work for Good in the end. I just have to trust him!

[JennaBoBenna]

Hey all, I'll be doing the MC for a few days before my vacation to the desert...ah... :)

I just bought a huge bag of lemons...so no turning back! hehe

[rawmom2006]

I am doing ok just a little headache. A few cravings for pineple smoothie.
sorry about your husbands job loss.

[Morn]

THanks rawmom2006

[Morn]

I am finally off of my fast. By the way I did cool at the Christmas party. I ate my salad and veggies I brought. But I did however, eat one of the Christmas cookies I made.:( Overall though I think it was a win. A lot of my family hadn't seen me in months and I think a few were shocked. I had someone say I was now skinny and why did I lose weight. I thought it was funny question. Another one thinks that know I might have an eating disorder since I won't be adjusting my diet off of raw foods. I have another Christmas party to go to today so hopefully it goes as well! I haven't weighed myself yet - I am a little afraid. I think it will be ok as long as I keep taking it easy.

Well Best wishes to all of you who are still fasting! You can do it!

[Finding Me]

. A lot of my family hadn't seen me in months and I think a few were shocked. I had someone say I was now skinny and why did I lose weight. I thought it was funny question. Another one thinks that know I might have an eating disorder since I won't be adjusting my diet off of raw foods.



Isn't it funny how some people just don't like seeing others succeed at something. I'm sure it makes them uncomfortable.

A major Congratulations to you Morn... on your raw food success and fasting success!!

[mykidzrkute]

Is the master cleanse part of the living of live foods book? i am still trying to find one locally because i want it now, but i also may end up buying it online, but if i have the book i will know what yall are talking about right?

[joyfulGIRL]

I am returning to 100% consumption of MC lemonade tomorrow. Anyone in with me? Please? :)

Congrats to all of the successful finishers earlier in this thread! Way to be, rawbies!! :D

[joyfulGIRL]

Starfire, you better get in here, girl! You know you want in on this!! :D

Now get out there and get your lemons- now! Go, go, go!



Please, anyone is welcome to this MC group! If you're reading and you think you might want to join in, just do it!! Woo!!

[VeggieMel]

Considering how much I've been eating since I stopped the cleanse, I should probably join in again, but I have some social engagements at restaurants coming up and Christmas day, of course. JoyfulGirl, how long are you going to cleanse this round?

[joyfulGIRL]

Considering how much I've been eating since I stopped the cleanse, I should probably join in again, but I have some social engagements at restaurants coming up and Christmas day, of course. JoyfulGirl, how long are you going to cleanse this round?

Until 12/31. Are you with me? :) :p

[VeggieMel]

I'd really love to, but looking at my schedule and commitments, I just don't think it's going to happen. I hope you have a wonderful cleanse!

[Finding Me]

I just wanted to cheer everyone on who's fasting right now!!! congratulations to those that are! This time of the year can be hard.

[StarFire]

Starfire, you better get in here, girl! You know you want in on this!! :D

Now get out there and get your lemons- now! Go, go, go!



Please, anyone is welcome to this MC group! If you're reading and you think you might want to join in, just do it!! Woo!!

whaaaat??? what did I miss??? what's going on http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/1422.gif ???

hmmmm... now I gotta read the posts before this one... what are we doing???

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/pooh.gif ... but I'll be back...(star dashes off to read... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/smiley_superhero.gif ) !!!

[StarFire]

ooooo.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/blush-4.gif

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/2006SmileyThinking.gif uhhhhhh....

I kinda broke my fast... I've had 1 piece of mango cheese cake and 1 salad ... and about 6 tomatoes and 1 banana...

can I jump back in? I'll send dh to get me some tahitian lemons tomorrow... and some good maple syrup... (that's actually the reason I broke the fast - cuz dh got me this 95,000 gallon maple syrup crap... THAT had NO food value - I think it was one step away from Mrs. Butterworths or something - and since $$ is tight I felt 'obligated' to use it... and it was so not working.... My body hated it - I was not getting any micro nutrients - just sugar and I could really FEEL the difference...

so... if you don't mind - I will jump back in -- I'll go to the hfs tomorrow and get me some good grade B maple syrup...

sorry rawbies.... I'm so ashamed.... http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/shy.gif can I still play??? http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/hiding.gif

[rawmom2006]

I am finishing the master cleanse tomorrow and then I think I am oing to be juice fasting.

[alicia_2007]

hello everyone! I am on day 5 of my master cleanse:D

I haven't set a number of days for myself I decided I'd do the minimum 10 days then see how I feel and perhaps continue on for another week.

I must say though that I can't stand the salt water flushes the taste of the salt is so repulsive to me I had to mix the salt into a small amount of water so I can get it down in two large gulps then wash the taste away with normal water.

Happy cleansing everyone!!:)