View Full Version : Why Do People Post Anti Raw anyway?????
11-21-2007, 03:29 PM
If people feel raw is wrong,why dont they go to the cooked food aroma rollin up forum or the meat lovers chewin the fat forum....haha.....let people do what they do and leave them alone. We free people to cook food,free us to not cook it.
Massive energy,vibrant health and amazing well being to all of you!
11-21-2007, 04:05 PM
Humans are instinctively jealous and it is in our nature to envy those who succeed.
Funny that I was like this until raw. My attitude went from jealousy to inspired. I love to see people that just glow with life now. It really is so awesome to be around them. I also do not feel any hate toward sad dieters but constant sorrow. Every time I go to the grocery store and see people shop for there kids food I want to cry.
11-21-2007, 04:16 PM
Those who envy are unhappy with themselves.
11-21-2007, 04:22 PM
you know, i've never seen anti-raw links here (i suppose they get deleted fairly quickly)
And while i agree that it should be monitored- sometimes i myself like to go to such website and see what people make up or say. I want to hear the other side of the issue- the so-called "dangers of raw" or ridiculous reasons not to go raw.
I don't want to keep myself in a bubble- i do have strong raw convictions and i don't doubt my choice, but i want to know what others have to say (many times to research an answer to many raw dilemmas they supposedly have)- usually their "arguments" are rather pointless and flawed anyway....
well, just wanted to share this thought :)
11-21-2007, 04:40 PM
Oh I agree to look around at the ways people feel and the things they bring up....it is just that Alyssa has asked for no anti raw on such a supportive,wonderfully inspirational place for us raw foodies....that would be like going into a nudists colony and asking peole to put their clothes on and telling them all the reasons why they shouldnt be doing what they are doing...hahahaha......when they feel freedom and vibrancy(and bouncy)....not promoting nudity by any means..just an example.
11-21-2007, 05:17 PM
they probably have their own questions too and need some clarification from people who are raw.
11-21-2007, 10:04 PM
I think this is the MAJOR reason why I literally don't visit ANY of the other raw forums. I mean, I look at other raw websites. But no other message forums. I read nothing but continuous postive feedback here. I need positive feedback. I need lots of pats on the back. This is where I get my dose of affirmation, if you will. Here I don't have any chance of running into someone who's going to bash what I'm doing. I'm still new, I'm not strong enough to handle bashing yet. Not until I can comfortably argue the facts. I know the facts, but I would fail in an argument b/c I'd get too mad or not have the right information and reasons to give and sound positive saying them.
11-21-2007, 10:07 PM
They're called trolls. They get off on ticking people off. Some of them do this stuff in real life, but in real life it can be harder to do. People tend not to listen. And they can always walk away. On the Internet, they feel they are anonymous. They can just go on and on, ticking people off, then sitting back and laughing at us as we get more and more upset with their antics. Mental illness? Personality disorder? I don't know. But they're out there.
11-21-2007, 11:55 PM
-People that don't know how to 'ping' positively...will approach positive people and situations...and ping negatively. They are trying to learn in the only way they know how. Treating those folks with dignity, respect and firm boundaries.....CAN be helpful. In any event, don't make the mistake of imagining that you are dealing with emotionally/spiritually mature folks.....that are just out to spite others. The terms don't necessarily apply.
-Just some thoughts. In any event, one has to ask themself (well...I do anyway..): Would I rather be right or kind? ;) To be happy...the answer (to me) is obvious.
-David Z. Mason
People that don't know how to 'ping' positively...will approach positive people and situations...and ping negatively. They are trying to learn in the only way they know how. Treating those folks with dignity, respect and firm boundaries.....CAN be helpful. In any event, don't make the mistake of imagining that you are dealing with emotionally/spiritually mature folks.....that are just out to spite others. The terms don't necessarily apply.
-Just some thoughts. In any event, one has to ask themself (well...I do anyway..): Would I rather be right or kind? To be happy...the answer (to me) is obvious.
David, You just have the most wonderfully insightful things to post! What good points you made!
11-22-2007, 03:58 PM
People are afraid of what they don't understand.. and some people just don't like to admit that they don't understand, so they'll be assholes about it.
It's not as if we're promoting self harm, anorexia or something harmful, so I don't see why anyone would target our lifestyle.
Meh, ignore them.
Whatever, some people are just dumb.
11-22-2007, 04:10 PM
I think it was Margaret Mead who said "It is easier to change a man's religion than to change his diet."
People feel very protective about their food choices as it is has a lot of emotional resonance- think about the SAD comfort foods that Mums make for us as children. I know a lot of the food I crave has a memory attached to it and that is hard to get past.
Some people try and get past it and some fight to keep it and want to block out the information they hear about raw living food because (I think) once you hear about how much it has healed people's lives, see the before and after pictures and see how tasty and appealing raw food can be, there can be little doubt left in one's mind and a seed has been sown that is hard to get rid of once you know about raw and living food.
Of course, some people are just immensely angry and negative people who want to upset those who are working towards something better and happier in their lives. You can't let trolls upset you. If there was a shrug smilie, I'd put it in here because that the only thing to do. Shrug it off. ;)
11-22-2007, 06:08 PM
I hear ya! Only I get it in person...I just got called a whacko, no less than 3 times by my aunt a few minutes ago for trying to describe to her what a raw diet means. I didn't offer up the conversation, she asked, and before I got 2 entire sentences out, she said...
"We know you're whacko." I just internally roll my eyes and move on. Some people don't like to be confused with the facts! (I call them Sheeple!)
11-22-2007, 06:29 PM
I just internally roll my eyes and move on. Some people don't like to be confused with the facts! (I call them Sheeple!)
Oh my goodness Danielle! I LOVE that word! "Sheeple"......woo, I'm going to have to remember that!! Brilliant!
I second that Shelley... that's actually really funny!
11-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Fear of change, lack of understanding etc; I am compassionate but will state scientific studies etc; I like the 51 years of research Hippocrates Institute has contributed.
11-22-2007, 08:50 PM
i don't mind at all that other people don't make the same choices i am... just don't come here and tell me to change my ways. i don't wanna hear it, if i did, i'd be on a meat-lovers forum looking for information.
after all, no one is holding me down forcing me to eat raw... it's a choice. and it's my choice to make.
in real life, my friends and kids apologize when they eat something SAD in front of me... i laugh and tell them, "hey, i CHOOSE to eat healthy... it's not a punishment or a restriction - so what are you apologizing for???"
11-22-2007, 09:25 PM
Also, people can be detoxing and having mixed feelings about the raw lifestyle and need a safe place to vent.
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