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11-18-2007, 04:22 AM
I am really surprised by here how everybody is advocating Raw food.
I agree it is good but to say that eating 80% is useless and only 100%making sense.
I sense a lobby here, just now I was going through a research project done by Harward which says that it is not true that Raw is 100% good.
Here people say Grains are bad wheras it is researched that whole wheat is good.
My father who is 65 is damn fit and healthy and for his whole life he has been on india cooked food.He never even take Salad.
Had cooked been so toxic he would have certainly passed away 30-40 years back.
Can we eat Raw Sweet Potato, Raw pulses.
There are lot of things we can even eat RAW.
It should be mixture of both
11-18-2007, 04:30 AM
Ag_dwh, you may wish to read the mission statement of this board. It is set up for a specific purpose and that is to support Alissa's Living on Live Food program.
No one is saying 80% is useless. What we are saying is, do 100% for 30 days and see how you feel. If it doesn't make a difference in for you, so be it.
How do you know "it should be a mixture of both"? Have you experienced eating raw foods for any length of time? If not, give it a shot and see for yourself rather than reading what others have written.
11-18-2007, 07:50 AM
Yes, I can definitely vouch for the fact that nobody can knock the raw food diet till they've done 30 days 100% raw and come out the other side.
I'll admit it, I did my first 30 days raw for the sole purpose of discrediting the lifestyle after I met someone who was also trying it out.
At that time I didn't even know about Alissa's 30 day challenge, and coincidentally thought that a month living the raw lifestyle would be enough to see any immediate changes that were talked about.
I thought that I'd do the raw for a month, have no major positive changes and be able to say 'well, I did it and it was no big deal, not worth it really'.
I cannot believe how wrong I was.
I'm a skeptical, scientifically minded person, I had no idea of the immense positive changes that would happen over that time.
Regardless to say I am now a firm believer of the positive impact of raw, though I still do believe that I can get most of the benefits on high raw, with 100% raw stints.
So I can only say to you, there are so many levels of health and wellbeing. I thought I was healthy before, but it was like waking out of a dream and finding a new level of health I had no idea existed.
So do the challenge, in the meantime, keep a VERY open mind.
11-18-2007, 08:35 AM
I think the confusion herein lies in different holistic theories. A person born and raised in India has a much different lifestyle and human experience than does a person born and raised and living in another country. People in the West rarely meditate, Yoga is watered down, etc. It is a completely different experience - right down to the types and amounts of toxins we are all exposed to throughout our lives.
Most likely, your father practices an Ayurvedic lifestyle. Ayurveda teaches a specific balance to the diet and lifestyle and also practices seasonal cleanses, and this system would not embrace the fully raw food lifestyle. In the foods alone, there are 5 "tastes" included in every meal's preparation to maintain the balance of Ama. Spices used in the food's preparation are holistic, healing herbs - take tumeric, for instance - a heart healer that is included in most curries. The temperature of the food is another issue, which is believed can also off-balance one's Ama, or internal fire. Vatas, Pittas and Kaphas all have different dietary and lifestyle needs.
The bottom line, is that you have to find the lifestyle that is right for you and stick with it - you cannot waiver and waffle back and forth.
I once had a wonderful Indian doctor who was vegetarian (I moved to another state, or I would still see her). She was raised in India, eats her traditional vegetarian fare -a combination lifestyle of cooked and raw, and has never been sick a day in her life nor taken medications EVER. She is in her 50s.
Her take on it for me was that due to certain health issues I have, I am best served by the raw vegan diet. She told me, tho that I would need to do it 100% and not waver, as that would only serve to make my conditions worsen. She is correct. I have dabbled in grains and cooked foods a couple of times since going 100% raw, and have found my ills come back every time and all the quicker.
11-18-2007, 08:40 AM
Can we eat Raw Sweet Potato, Raw pulses.
Yes. Is that meant to be an argument against raw food?
11-18-2007, 09:01 AM
Please keep the following in mind when posting here:
This is a Raw Food Support Board that is designed to support those who have chosen to eat a raw food diet. Whatever "percentage" raw you eat is certainly up to you and yes, 80% raw is definitely better than no raw at all and not useless - but we, on this forum, do not advocate cooked food eating because this is a raw food forum...just as a vegan(cooked) forum would not advocate meat-eating. That's just not what this place was originally created for.
Yes, many ARE and DO feel that 100% raw is optimal and that is totally accepted here because the woman (Alissa Cohen) who founded this site is 100% raw. However, she does say that a person can eat whatever percentage of raw they desire (although her years of doing this and working with various individuals she's found that 100% is best) but when it comes to this particular forum, we are here to support the raw food diet so if a person does decide to eat only 80% of their diet raw, then that is their prerogative but we are here to support the RAW portion of that diet.
As it was already mentioned, please do have a look over our Mission Statement and Rules and (and I DO feel awkward saying this) if what the purpose of this forum is offends you then you may want to locate one that more fits your particular needs. But yes, we will and do advocate a 100% raw diet here. Alissa has said before that we (Raw Food Talk) is not here to defend nor to try and prove the raw diet but it's for those who have researched and decided that this (the raw food diet) is for them and they want/need the support of this group.
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