Yogurt Douche Anyone?

[tasha92337]

Has anyone heard about yogurt douche to restore healthy flora, garlic douche to kill parasites, apple cider vinegar douche to balance acidity and pau d' arco douche to boost immune system?

Ive researched and found some successful stories of douches against candida, leaky gut and IBS.

Im thinking about giving it a try...

What do ya'll think?

Natasha

[RowanC]

I've used it a couple of times and it worked great for me.

I just used a cup of plain yogurt dissolved in warm water in the douchebag.

Once, when I had a bad yeast infection I literally packed myself with yogurt before bed and just wore a sanitary napkin. Next morning I felt a lot better. It was very healing.

[tasha92337]

Thanks for that information. I have candida and well even though i cant get enough of enemas i rather try something new and I found on several sites about yogurt douche for healing intestinal problems.

So tomorrow im off to buy 2 douche bags.

[Stina]

I've done very well with cloves of garlic up there.

[tasha92337]

Wow

Thanks Stina.

[aililiu]

I've done very well with cloves of garlic up there.

really?
you just put a clove of garlic in?
thats a new concept to me.

i thought douches were harmful :confused: but im not very educated on the subject ;)

[Stina]

really?
you just put a clove of garlic in?
thats a new concept to me.

i thought douches were harmful :confused: but im not very educated on the subject ;)

Hey Sweetie! Yeah, over the counter douches are just no good; harsh chemicals harmful to the delicate flora down there.

I first learned about the garlic up the foxhole from a R.N. nurse midwife at a Rainbow Gathering. She told us that no matter how long a clove of garlic is up there for, it's medicinal, and that it can't travel to other parts of the body from there. Well, I put a clove in and much to my dismay, it wouldn't come out! And with-in two minutes, I had fierce garlic breath! And I mean oral breath....right. What I learned was miraculously insightful about the body's intuition. The vagina will hold onto the garlic for as long as it needs to and wil spit it out at it's convenience. It can do no harm up there. I've heard some gals leave the last sheath on of the peel when they feel like they might get burned from it. I can't eat raw garlic anymore now that I'm raw, yet have no problem with the delicate tissue down there being in contact with it. Well, that clove was up there for several days before being ejected. A couple of months later, after my summer of love, shall we say, ( I might had a couple few boyfriends that year.....) I went to a yearly Pap Schmear (that's what I like to call them:D ), and the nurse remarked on how much healthy bacteria was in my slide show.

Considering that garlic is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, and more anti's that I can't recall, it's really worth practicing. Also, you can take a needle and thread and make a tampon out of it, if you're more comfortable with that. When I do maintenance with garlic, I put it in at night and it comes out in the morning. If I haven't done it for awhile, it'll stay in longer. Isn't that an interesting phenomenon?

My vagina prefers garlic to yogurt douches. She's vegan.

[aililiu]

My vagina prefers garlic to yogurt douches. She's vegan.


HAHAH. thats epic. :D

wow, thats all really interesting.
i might need to let the idea sit for a while before im ready to try it,
but i have to say im intrigued ;) lol

i like the needle &thread idea as well.
especially for the scary first time ;)

thanks for giving me something new to think about, lol.

[RowanC]

If you have not tried the garlic before, I suggest wrapping it in gauze the first time to see if you have a reaction.

The garlic clove burned the snot out of me and honestly made things worse.

Garlic can mold easily so it depends on what type of infection you have. While it works great for bacterial infections, it can actually make yeast or mold infections worse, and is not always soothing like yogurt.

Every lady is different.:)

[juliebove]

Garlic burned me badly too and also felt like it was cutting into the tissue when I tried to push it in there.

[diali36]

Careful with the garlic girls, it does burn. Yogurt is wonderful to help get rid of yeast infections, helps to restore the natural ph. You don't need to buy a d. bag just use a firm tampoon, one like ob, soak in yogurt and insert.

[Stina]

Careful with the garlic girls, it does burn. Yogurt is wonderful to help get rid of yeast infections, helps to restore the natural ph. You don't need to buy a d. bag just use a firm tampoon, one like ob, soak in yogurt and insert.

You're making a blanket statement. I've known many women who have used this method successfully. Do you understand that what works for some doesn't for others? And do you know how saturated tampons are with chemicals? Cotton is the most heavily sprayed crop, i.e. it takes five pounds of chemicals to produce a pair of blue jeans. And the outside of the cotton ball that contains the heaviest chemical dusting is made into toliet tissue and feminine products. OB tampon? thanks but no thanks on that advice!

[RowanC]

As I said, "Every lady is different."

And I'd like to see the evidence that garlic is antifungal, besides just something someone posted on the web.

Garlic is indeed antimicrobial and antibacterial -- but it molds quite easily, which I don't think it could do if it were antifungal?
Maybe I'm wrong, but shouldn't an antifungal destroy fungus instead of molding itself?

It is also quite possible to purchase organic cotton tampons or to make one yourself.

Anyway... all I saw here was different women expressing their own experiences, including you.

Each lady is different.
.

[RowanC]

You're making a blanket statement. I've known many women who have used this method successfully. Do you understand that what works for some doesn't for others? And do you know how saturated tampons are with chemicals? Cotton is the most heavily sprayed crop, i.e. it takes five pounds of chemicals to produce a pair of blue jeans. And the outside of the cotton ball that contains the heaviest chemical dusting is made into toliet tissue and feminine products. OB tampon? thanks but no thanks on that advice!

Respectfully, what I see here is propaganda you've read somewhere. I grew up in a family who raised cotton. Cotton was picked by hand when I was a child and we moved to machines when I was in my teens. The cotton is picked from the boll (not the ball) and put into HUGE trailers that hold tons of cotton. It is then shipped to a cotton gin where it is combed and the seeds are pulled out. From there it is baled and shipped to those who make things from it.

You are correct in saying it is one of the heaviest sprayed crops, and dangerous to use unless organic. However, there is no way that the outside of the cotton ball is or could be used for anything. It's mixed into tons of cotton and you couldn't tell the outside from the inside.

[subbacultcha]

I'm a bit concerned about the tampon issue - I still use regular tampax tampons - am I putting myself at risk? Is this why people can get toxic shock syndrome? :confused:

[aililiu]

I'm a bit concerned about the tampon issue - I still use regular tampax tampons - am I putting myself at risk? Is this why people can get toxic shock syndrome? :confused:

...i dont know if the tss is from the chemicals in the tampon; i guess i always assumed it was from if you left it there too long or something, it was just unhealthy. but i dont know!
personally i dont use tampons anymore, unless im in a pinch, bc im far too likely to forget about them, lol. i use organic cotton pads, but you should look into the organic tampons. they look/feel exactly the same.
id also be interested to try that diva cup thing. hmm.

as for garlic, i dont know if its antifungal :) but ive never had garlic mold :eek: and ive left them on the windowsill for AGES before, it just wrinkled and dried up. lol.

is there something else besides yoghurt that would have those probiotic qualities?

[RowanC]

I did a search on garlic and antifungal properties, and although people kept SAYING it was antifungal, so far I hadn't found any actual studies showing that it is. I apparently wasn't looking in the right places.

Here is one good article I found: http://www.garlic.mistral.co.uk/ezine7.htm According to the article, garlic is affective against some yeast strains, including Candida. It says it may keep the yeast from attaching to the mouth. So maybe it keeps it from attaching to the vagina also in some strains.

This article says derivitives of garlic helped with candida but you have to pay to see the entire study: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=203719

The following article was by far the best I found, citing the sources of the statements it made and is an excellent read for anyone considering garlic use for Candida. It appears that garlic kills bad AND good flora.
http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/garlic.html#GarlicCauseOrCure


Anyway.. I stand corrected by my own research. Apparently garlic IS antifungal. I still maintain it burns me badly. But it is antifungal in some cases.
I apologize.

[tasha92337]

Im learning alot on here. Yes, I might try it then. But i never used tampons before so ill just stick with the basics. Lol

Yes, Garlic is a powerful food that kills bacteria, virus,parasites,etc. I call garlic to be one the "multi" task herb that'll boost immune system while eliminating bacteria.

Garlic does burn like crazy! I had my aunt put fresh garlic juice in her ear due to an ear infestion. She was crying n everything . But the next morning she was all better.

I also but a garlic clove well in a place where the sun dont shine (hint hint) and I dont mean from the front. Anyway, i burned in the beg. but after a while it stopped. I left it in all night. The next morning I had a morning BM and it came out with some other small things.

Havent you heard the saying "Beauty is Pain and Paini is Beauty"

[tasha92337]

Oh yeah....Even though I put the clove in my backside, I had oral garlic breath too.

Thats crazy!!

LOL

[aililiu]

tasha--- was your purpose in trying that to have a BM?

[davydiver]

Oh yeah....Even though I put the clove in my backside, I had oral garlic breath too.

Thats crazy!!

LOL

Garlic has DMSO(Dimethy-Sulphide) in it, so do onions and Roses, but to a lessor extent. Some people that use DMSO for various applications on their body, report the taste of garlic or onions on their pallets or the scent of roses.

Intriguing application for garlic cloves though...

D.d.

[RawHeaven]

Oh yeah....Even though I put the clove in my backside, I had oral garlic breath too.

Thats crazy!!

LOL

Same thing happened to me when I ah...put it in the other orafice. Experienced garlic breath. I read that as you heal whatever it is you're healing with the clove, the garlic breath becomes non-existent or very faint...it indicates that it worked. I experienced this myself.

[RawHeaven]

Garlic has DMSO(Dimethy-Sulphide) in it, so do onions and Roses, but to a lessor extent. Some people that use DMSO for various applications on their body, report the taste of garlic or onions on their pallets or the scent of roses.



hmmm...that's interesting. Too bad garlic doesn't emit the scent of roses. :)

[RawHeaven]

The whole unorganic cotton, tampon usage thing has got me thinking about switching over to the moon cup.

Has anyone had success with this?

http://www.mooncup.co.uk/

[The Forager]

Hi RawHeaven,

I use the divacup ( seems to be the same thing) and it is excellent. No leaks, easy to put in and out, not messy at all, and environmentally friendly!

[RawHeaven]

Forager, I'm gonna check that out! Thanks!!!

Like the name of it too...hahaha. :)

[RawSinger]

Douches are not that good for you. I've heard this time and time again.

[Jenifae]

I've always been under the impression that douching is not good for the walls of the vagina.

If I did I would only use ACV and water. If I were to do a Garlic douche my husband would never be intimate with me again :eek:

[smoothiegirl]

I don't use tampons because of the irritation of the cotton. I wonder if all that gunk that comes out is toxic to the vaginal lining? Just curious

[rawstrength]

Hi RawHeaven,

I use the divacup ( seems to be the same thing) and it is excellent. No leaks, easy to put in and out, not messy at all, and environmentally friendly!

I love my diva cup. It's seriously the best thing ever invented. No leaks, no waste, no chemicals, and no worries. You only have to take it out every 12 hours.

[smoothiegirl]

What in the world is a diva cup? I checked online and how does it work?
Where does the stuff go? I googled diva cup and saw what it looks like but how does it work. Do you wear pads?

[Erika]

I have heard of this. The garlic is also good for bacterial infections. I have personally used some of the these products while trying to treat for a yeast infection. Here are the ones that I've used. If you find one that you are interested in and want to know more information I will be glad to tell you, just email me at Erika78750@yahoo.com
I have used the plain yogurt douch
Boric acid vaginal insert with the powder and gelatin cap
garlic douche
gentian violet + Tea tree oil combo
Acidophilus capsules

[Erika]

...i dont know if the tss is from the chemicals in the tampon; i guess i always assumed it was from if you left it there too long or something, it was just unhealthy. but i dont know!


Now I'm not an expert but this is what the microbiology book says.
TSS is caused for bacteria being on the cotton part of the tampon. When you put that tampon in there with all of the nice bacteria that's on it then it causes a major break down. Not all tampons have the bacteria though so you're pretty safe.

[OneBite@aTime]

I'm going to try the diva cup....
...about the other.....My Nana (a nurse for 30+ years) always said when it comes to cleanning "those" places....don't put anything in there you wouldn't put in your eye!

[RawSinger]

What in the world is a diva cup? I checked online and how does it work?
Where does the stuff go? I googled diva cup and saw what it looks like but how does it work. Do you wear pads?

I've never used it but I'm assuming that you insert it inside you and all the fluid just stays in the cup. After a certain amount of time, you empty it and clean it. No pads are needed. The point of it is to eliminate the waste of using pads, tampons, etc.

[smoothiegirl]

Hmm! Sounds pretty interesting. Maybe I'll check it out. Thanks!

[Pookietooth]

You can make yogurt from things other than cow's milk -- like coconut milk, or nut milk. You can also make kefir this way as well, although I'm not sure if it would work for a yeast infection. A lot of times, it's actually not a yeast infection but something else. Gabriel Cousens' book has a recipe for raw nut mylk kefir.
Wanted to add that you may have a hard time finding vegan yogurt starter, but it's out there (mostly pretty expensive, like the GI ProHealth one that is like $30). You could buy regular starter, make a batch, and then freeze portions of that to use as starter in the future.

[jayr]

I'm a bit concerned about the tampon issue - I still use regular tampax tampons - am I putting myself at risk? Is this why people can get toxic shock syndrome? :confused:

If you're worried about TSS take a plastic tampon applicator and fill it with the plain yogurt and try that way, but don't forget the pad to catch what comes out.

[Irish_Vegan_Girl]

you know, I thought douche meant shower, au francais.

[LotsaRaw]

The whole unorganic cotton, tampon usage thing has got me thinking about switching over to the moon cup.

Has anyone had success with this?

http://www.mooncup.co.uk/

I bought my mooncup two and a half cycles ago - and I love it!! No worrying about having "products" on hand :) No leaks either!

First time I could feel it -now, have to really think about it :p

p.s. Also thumbs up for the occasional garlic...no more infections here...pop one in more for "maintenance" these days - could be the raw foods that help too, but hey, it doesn't hurt!

[MrsJohnnyG]

May I ask a really dumb question? Why would a raw eater have candida or other issues that would necessitate douching? I thought candida is a SAD eater's problem (processed carbs, yeast, dairy, etc.)?

[csl09]

I have a question about the garlic suppositories. After 16 years of fighting chronic yeast and bacterial infections and chronic vaginal inflammation, I decided last night to try the garlic suppositories. A little history--I had two recto-vaginal and recto-cervical fistulas repaired in 2000 and 2001. The infections have improved but I still have problems, especially if I have sex. Most of the time it's yeast, but sometimes it's bacterial. I've had several biopsies done and they usually only find chronic inflammation. More recently, the wet prep showed lots of white blood cells but no clue cells. No yeast was present (of course this was after a week on diflucan). I'm sick of all the medications that don't work, so I tried the garlic. A little burning upon insertion since the opening of my vagina was already irritated. I left it in over night, and replaced it with a fresh clove this morning. I notice the discharge I had before was white, but now it's bright yellow. Is this normal? I'm no longer having burning and itching, just the yellow discharge. Please let me know what I can expect while trying this.

Also, I have used yogurt douches in the past but didn't have any long term effects from it. It was soothing at first but that was about it.

[greenrunner]

Douching with a dairy product doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but I'm a guy ;)

[csl09]

Douching with a dairy product doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but I'm a guy ;)

It's actually a very common practice due to the probiotics that are present in yogurt. Normal vaginal flora contain similar bacteria. When an infection occurs, the normal flora is disturbed. Douching with yogurt theoretically replaces the good bacteria. It works for many women but it didn't do much for me. Then again, I'm not against dairy. I'm not even vegetarian, although I have lots of respect for those who are. I'm just looking for a more natural way to heal my health issues.

[GreenLeaves]

I really wish this would stay a vegan forum. Personally, I have no interest in being on a forum where products from the meat and dairy industries are discussed.

"If you're eating or drinking something made from cow's milk, it's because a calf chained in a box somewhere isn't." — Dan Piraro

[csl09]

I really wish this would stay a vegan forum. Personally, I have no interest in being on a forum where products from the meat and dairy industries are discussed.

"If you're eating or drinking something made from cow's milk, it's because a calf chained in a box somewhere isn't." — Dan Piraro

I'm very sorry. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone. I know I'm not vegan but I am interested in learning more about raw food and naturopathy. I just thought someone here would be kind enough to offer me some insight.

[staceyweller]

:excited::wuvhttp://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/anti2.php
This was interesting.

[staceyweller]

:dance:GreanLeaves: You don't have to be Vegan to be on this site. It's in the bylaws. Also, a person on a raw foods diet might be doing it for health reasons, whereas a person on a Vegan diet believes the Vegan philosophy. Don't be critical of others. Patience will convert many more than spite ever will. csl09: Don't ever feel bad about asking questions. It's what the site is for! Thanks for being here. I personally am Vegan but know many people in my family who are not and eat raw foods for the incredible health benefits! :) Have a great day!

[PansyLo]

I think this site is actually strict on the discussion of vegan diet. I'm not entirely sure it extends to external usage so I'm not sure this is really breaking the rules at all.

I am vegan as far as diet goes, I was vegan before going raw. I try to get vegan products that are not tested on animals but it's pretty difficult at things aren't labeled like food.

I don't think I've ever had any infections or problems in that area but I do like to keep things healthy. I just bought a mooncup for the obvious health benefits.
I don't think I'd want to be sticking garlic up there though... :backsout:
Like the sound of being in good health but I'm pretty sure I already am. I don't want my lady garden being garlicy. That sounds horrible.