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05-15-2005, 12:52 AM
I read this on another forum ...is this true ...or do we get all we need from the food itself------------
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posted May 12, 2005 01:53 AM
1. DHA supplement
2. B12 supplement
3. zinc supplement
4. For EPA, consider E3 Live, though safety is questionable.
Stop making excuses. If you really want to give "veganism" your best shot, you have to religiously use the right supplements or you will suffer sooner or later.
It doesn't work if you buy a bottle of supplement and just take it once in a while.
You should include this in your budget if your health means anything to you.
[ May 12, 2005, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Sacred ]
05-15-2005, 08:31 AM
Not for me it isn't.
On the B-12 issue, if you do a search, there is sooooo much here on it ~ and Alissa did a very good post.
I know a family of folk who are raw ~ husband (30 years), wife and 5 children ~ all of whom are raw and all of whom don't use supplements.
How long has this person been raw who wrote that? Are they speaking from experience and if so, what? ....or are they just coming from the fear factor from something they've read.
I especially like the ...."religiously use the right supplements or your health will suffer".... fear, fear, fear!
What are the "right" supplements?
Check this out. We, as raw foodists (or whatever we call ourselves) are naturally cleansing and re-building our bodies with the best food ~ raw, organic, natural, pesticide free ~ possible. This means that, our colons are cleansing which means that when we eat these foods, we are putting in and receiving/assimilating ~ more nutrients, enzymes, proteins, fats and carbohydrates than ever before.
Enough said ~
05-16-2005, 08:23 PM
I'm not sure about how long this person has eaten raw..but it was on another post followed by a bunch of posts claiming that the raw foods made them extremely ill, anemia, bone loss, extreme muscle loss,......I could post the link but I don't want anyone to have negative thoughts...This was posted on a raw foods forum.....so it really worried me and made me a little hesitant to start eating this way ...I am the type of gal who will gather every morsel of info I can get before I make up my mind...I want to be thin, yes, but I dont want to be sick either ....thanks for the info :p
05-16-2005, 09:15 PM
The thing is, about people who write that stuff ~ we have NO idea of their food program. How is it they can eat a diet of de-natured, contaminated, de-mineral and de-vitaminized foods and consider them healthy? IF they were healthy, why did they go raw in the first place?
Yanno, you can read all KINDS of stuff yet, until you do it ~ all the way, it'll never be your experience. Here's a suggestion. Take the 30-day challenge and see how you feel. IF you are finding yourself feeling better than you ever have ~ give it another 30 ~ and on, and on. If not, what have you lost? Certainly not all the things you say they've mentioned.
Gotta run ~
05-16-2005, 09:20 PM
Ditto, ditto, ditto -- to Revvell's last post.
To me, it's odd that you're looking at eating raw as being a way to get "thin" but question how healthy it is. Eating raw is THE way to be truly healthy. The weight loss is a result of your body reversing the ill effects of eating cooked and processed foods (including vegan cooked foods).
I can't emphasize enough how the best thing to do is to take the 30-day challenge. You do have Alissa's book, right? Just read it thoroughly and follow it.
Best of luck!
I eat those superfood supplements. A B-12
supplement is essential because B-12 is not in
any vegan foods. Zinc is in green pumpkin seeds.
DHA and EPA are the long-chain omega-3 fats
and I feel it is important to eat them. It is
essential for pregnant women to eat them.
DHA algae, Klamath AFA blue-green algae, and
the herb purslane are the only vegan foods
containing these long-chain fats. Most people
can make the long chain fats when enough short
chain omega-3s are in the diet, mostly provided
through flax and hemp seeds and walnuts.
Our brain and eyes are 60% DHA and EPA fats. I
want to be sure they are properly nourished.
Check out the interviews with Brian Clement and
Gabriel Cousens on e3live.com, they both say E3
Live is the most important supplement available.
05-17-2005, 06:41 PM
According to Craig Sommers, N.D., author of Raw Food Bible, B-12 need only be taken occasionally - it's not necessary daily. He personally takes it at the solstices. Yep, twice a year (there are only two solstices, right? Hee hee)
This is NOT to start another B-12 controversy, please. Anyone who wants to know the different opinions on this only needs to use Search on this forum and read.
I'm just giving a bit of info about the frequency that it should be taken.
05-18-2005, 08:18 AM
I personally have to take B-12 because I am recovering from CFIDS, FMS, and a couple other chronic illnesses. I feel great eating raw, but anemia runs in the women on my Mom's side, so I make sure to take B-12 about 3 times a week.
For me, also, vitamin D is important because of the neurological implications of the illnesses I am recovering from. However, entering into summer, that won't be as necessary, and I normally take D late September-late April, tapering my doses to how much time in the sun I am able to get.
I think vitamin needs and supplement needs are different for everyone; none of our bodies functions exactly the same, and not all the same foods work for everyone. Being closely monitored by my neurologist and rheumatologist (to record and observe the effects of raw on me and perhaps see how it would be applicable to their other patients) I get blood draw every 2 weeks and find that those are the only 2 vitamins that are necessary for me to sustain perfect health with this particular lifestyle.
The added benefit of B-12, just as a fun factoid: it repels mosquitoes. So if you take it a couple times a week and live somewhere that has a lot of mosquitoes and other biting insects, B-12 is a great line of defense...they smell it on your skin and know not to nibble. And no bug spray required! (Or, in my case, I don't have to walk around smelling like a citronella oil tiki torch!)
Find out what serves you; what works for one person may not for another.
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