Cancer Study-Calling all raw foodists!!!

[freespirit]

The American Cancer Society is performing an ongoing study about how a persons lifestyle affects their chance of getting cancer. My mother really wanted me to participate but you must be 30-65 years of age, and Im 26.

So- I am reaching out to all persons over the age of 30, who have been cancer free, to contact the ACS. Im hoping enough raw foodists may participate and the masses of america may finally have proof that a diet of raw and living foods is the key to a dis-ease free life!

It is called the Cancer Prevention Study 3 (cps3)

My father died from cancer and modern medicine's so-called cure of intense radiation and chemo. If I had only known then what I know now, I am confident He wouldnt have endured such a horrible experience. Not to mention that watching your father die over a period of several months(at one point he didnt know who I was), is something no child should have to watch.

I believe you take a couple of extensive initial surveys, they take blood samples, and then you recieve another survey every two years...they have done this in the past, and they concluded that smoking causes cancer from one of the previous studies

Any volunteers???!?!?!? Lets provide future generations the nutritional knowledge to eradicate cancer and dis-ease!!

[4forme]

Any idea if someone internationally could participate? Am American living overseas. Probly not, but thought I'd ask. ;)

[freespirit]

contact the acs!!
I dont have any idea, but its worth a try!

[Blazin'Jane]

I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I'm over the age limit --66.

[Veganforlife]

I know this will probably raise quite a few eyebrows, but so be it. This needs to be said.
I don't trust the ACS as far as I can pick up my house and throw it. I trust them about equally how I trust the FDA and the USDA and all the other big brother, money-hungry corporations.
I used to head up my local Relay For Life and was super involved with the ACS for a good number of years until I did some research and found out that the ACS is the richest NON-PROFIT organization in the world. Check this out:
http://www.preventcancer.com/losing/acs/wealthiest_links.htm
I had an Aunt who lived with me and died of external mouth cancer. Most cancers you can't see, they are internal, but hers was external. Talk about sad. To see someone you loved with all your heart being eaten away by this awful PREVENTABLE dis-ease. I won't go into the gory details, but it was not pretty.
Dr. Epstein and I have corresponded about HIS findings on the abovementioned link. I trust this man. He's done his homework.
I encourage folks NOT to do any Relays or give the ACS one more cent because the money is going into all the board members' pockets. If you click on the link and then see who is on the board, it will make you shiver.
The very same drug companies that are providing chemo to patients are also some of the ceo's that are on the board. It's a "good old boys" situation. And we are the victims. I have friends say, "But they helped when my loved one was diagnosed, yaddah, yaddah, yaddah..." Sure, they are gonna come out looking like the caring organization that they want to brainwash everyone into thinking they are. I've also had friends say, "but what about the heart assocation and other organizations...?" Well, the same applies to them, but ACS is the RICHEST non-profit. How can a non-profit "business" be rich? I don't get it. Well, I do - now.
Face it. They've been in "business" for over 90 years and they haven't found any cures yet? Give me a break! Sure, they'll mention they are close or have found what they THINK will help, but that's giving false hope. Think about it. If cancer was cured the BIG business of chemo would be out of business too.
They (ACS) talk of hope? That is a joke. I believe what they are hoping is that more and more survivors and their families will be brainwashed and hold more and more walks, relays, etc. so their rich ceos and board members can get richer and richer. They prey on those affected and at their wit's end. They don't care about the human aspect of life. Not one bit.
Should I get cancer? The ACS would be the LAST place I would go to.
We need to teach and fund PREVENTION not medication. Cancer CAN BE PREVENTED. Cancer feeds on unhealthy cells. This HAS been proven. If we eat right cancers could potentially be wiped out. And wiped out at an alarming speed.
It's a vicious cycle and we are at the ACS and big pharma's mercy.
So I'm asking folks to do THEIR homework and investigate before these rich, greedy, uncaring folks continue to use us as guinea pigs while they are frolicking to the bank with their greedy smirks on their faces.
Just some "food for thought" here.

side note: while I appreciate your wanting to show them that eating a diet of raw and healthy, living foods is healing, there is a catch to becoming involved with them. I don't trust them. I repeat this. There is a catch to this study. It reminds me of "Soylent Green" - an old Charleton Heston movie. It is very scary. Steer clear of ACS. Steer very clear of them. They are evil!

[SuziS]

I agree that they are evil! I know of alot of kids with cancer because when Cooper had it I would surf the other kids websites. The families get so into the relay for life because they believe that they are helping to find a cure. These kids put so much into raising funds for the ACS. how sad is that?

[EZ rider]

My dad died of cancer in 1993 and every time he went for a "treatment" he came back sicker. It was like they were trying to poison him well. How can that work ? IMO doctors don't have a clue about treating cancer !

[Revvell]

I'm glad someone finally said it here. Thanks Lucy. I've been saying it for years. I've got friends/acquaintances who think I'm hearless because I don't contribute to their "Run for the Cure" or whatever they are calling it. One can run until they are blue in the face. The ACS will NEVER find the cure ~ well, at least admit there IS a cure.

Same with AIDS and any other dis-ease. As long as drug companies are involved, and researchers live on grants, there will never be cures ~ that they will admit to, anyway. For more info on AIDS, check out Gary Null's site. I've got his video on the AIDS myth. Truly amazing.

Well, so far, I've interviewed what? um, 3 people who have healed themselves of cancer with a plant-based diet? Or maybe 2 and trying to get the third. (Ruth Heidrich and Brenda Cobb I've gotten)

Sorry FreeSprit. I admire what you're trying to do but I can't do it. There are loads of articles in the books (what's it called?) ~ some reference book that doctors get all the time ~ about naturally healing modalities. They ignore them. Can't make money with people staying healthy now, can they?

Revvell

[CaliRaw]

I don't do the run/walks either, for the same reason. Bogus!

Someone probably got a federal grant to perform the raw diet study. They don't care about the results. They just want a paycheck.

Here's an example:
I used to know someone that was an assistant to a graduate student in a psych phd program. They were performing experiments to determine if rats would begin to show a response when repeatedly put on a hotplate that was slowly turned on. Of course they will! I'm sure it was a little deeper than that, like how many times does it take, etc. LOL! But, STILL...of course they will! Grant money seems to be available for any idea! They're mostly to keep people employeed and find more medication to hide symptoms of illnesses...not to cure the illness, even the the word 'cure' is used a lot. Look at Muscular Dystrophy. How much money do you think has been raised through those yearly jerry lewis telethons? Billions? Trillions? Where is the cure? I believe some of that money goes to help people with it, but I can't say for sure. I HOPE so!

freespirit, it's understood that you meant well. :)

[Revvell]

Look at Muscular Dystrophy. How much money do you think has been raised through those yearly jerry lewis telethons?

And how much does Jerry Lewis keep? The guy has not worked in years to my knowledge.... well, one day a year .. or so. :rolleyes:

[CaliRaw]

And how much does Jerry Lewis keep? The guy has not worked in years to my knowledge.... well, one day a year .. or so. :rolleyes:

I shudder to think about it. Maybe he gets royalties from those silly movies he used to make with Dean Martin, Bob Hope, etc. :D

hmmm.. I just looked at the site and he is the 'national chairman', so I guess that gives him a salary. A pretty hefty one, I'm sure. :(

[CaliRaw]

from the MDA site:
77.4% of every dollar MDA spends goes directly to research, health care services and education, the rest to fund raising and administration.

2006 Telethon raised a record $61 million in contributions and pledges

Where does the other 22.6% go OR is that what they're referring to as "the rest to fund raising and administration."?

[Revvell]

That's not the only place MDA receives income. Here in SoCal they have a huge yearly ride with bikers. I think last year they had 25,000-30,000 bikers participating. They have added a couple more "non"-profits to the ride though. There are so MANY MDA fund raisers so, one can figure they're taking in an easy hundred million or more from them; plus, whatever gov't grants they may be getting?



from the MDA site:
77.4% of every dollar MDA spends goes directly to research, health care services and education, the rest to fund raising and administration.

2006 Telethon raised a record $61 million in contributions and pledges

Where does the other 22.6% go OR is that what they're referring to as "the rest to fund raising and administration."?

[Green Life]

This entire month of Oct. has been Breast Cancer Awareness Month. So, people donate thousands upon thousands of dollars to ACS this month in hope they will find a cure for Breast Cancer. I just don't get it.

[freespirit]

I am so upset to read all this. I had no idea. My mom does so much work for the acs and I am definitely going to pass this information on to her.

I am so naive in so many ways, I believed nonprofits actually cared about the little person, but form what you all write here, I was completely wrong:(

[northernstars]

Not all nonprofits are in it for the money! I am a past president of our local food bank and I know that all the money we raised was to feed those in need! Within a couple years we were able to pay for some helpers. After several years we were finally able to pay the director!

It is a shame that so many nonprofits pay most of their incomes for their staffs' trips, trainings and other benefits that may not be all that important. I am not saying that many nonprofits don't provide necessary services. But the larger nonprofits seem to have their priorities skewed. Who says they really need to fly all over the world to promote their agenda!

Sorry if I sound a bit put off. Some things I just don't understand.

[CaliRaw]

Of course not all of them are in it for the money.

I have a friend who runs one that rescues animals. She cares about animals and has several pets, some previously rescued and abused. She's not in it for the money. She cares.

I think many of the 'perks' we hear about and the salaries are things they do because they are making sooooo much money.....So they spend it for 'the cause', so that they don't show a 'profit' when it's time to do the taxes. They want to keep their 'non-profit' status. Just my little opinion.

[EZ rider]

There was a huge scandal here in Washington State a few years ago concerning the corruption and extravagance at UGN (United Good Neighbors) that was about the enormous pay and perks for management at UGN. It makes you wonder if they lost their map along the way ?

[Lindazkewl]

I recently read in a book that it is written in the ACS's rules that they must disband they day a cure for cancer is found.

Some people have been cured through natural hygiene, which includes eating raw foods, but the charitable organizations have not made this information public. The book goes on to state that if a cure is found millions of people will lose their jobs, including pharmaceutical companies that bring in billions of dollars. I feel that while this is a complex issue, ultimately, with so many more people being healthy, there will be plenty of work in different fields; so much money time and resources won't need to be expended on finding cures for the "preventable" diseases.

It is very, very sad to say, but in this world, more emphasis tends to be placed on making money, loads of it, than the well-being of individuals.

It's so simple yet complicated. The answer to the cure for many diseases is a lifestyle change. But as long as there's fast food and junk food, and people caring more about making money, preventable diseases will continue to flourish.

I am having a difficult time staying raw, but I have greatly improved my eating habits. For those of you who are doing well, or trying, or struggling, please keep it up - help yourself, and anyone else that you can, in a gentle way, to see the truth. Be an example to help any that you can - for the sake of people - for the sake of the children. . .

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[EZ rider]

I wonder if doctors are as fast to recommend looking into natural health practices for cancer treatment as they are to recommend chemo and other drugs to their patients ?

[Revvell]

No, they aren't. It's actually illegal for them to do so. The FDA has raided and shut down doctors' offices who fail to prescribe the standard route... chemo ... radiation.



I wonder if doctors are as fast to recommend looking into natural health practices for cancer treatment as they are to recommend chemo and other drugs to their patients ?

[River Mom]

Eye Opener For Me!
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[NYbutterfly]

As soon as I read the first post, I thought "HA!" Have you guys read "The China Study"? I know many of us raw fooders have. It's an eye opener and totally explains what these organizations are all about (read=money and politics). Thanks for bringing it up, Lucy.

[oceanee]

It is natural to put your faith in what should be good. Unfortunately so many that are involved do not do their homework to truly understand the big picture. Isn't it wonderful that the light is shining through and awareness and prevention are being voiced.Alissa is a shining example of spreading a positive preventative health choice.
Oceanee

[NYbutterfly]

To freespirit, our original poster...

I really want to express my deepest sympathy to you... I believe that this thread took a different direction than from what you had intended. What you went through with your father must have been so difficult, so painful. You are right, no child, spouse, parent or friend should have to go through that- ever. Cancer is scary, but even scarier are the so-called treatments it's sufferers must endure. You mean well, and I think you set a great example of being hopeful and positive that someday, somehow, the world will know that a raw food diet can prevent and treat cancer.

[EZ rider]

I wonder if the ACS uses studies like this as PR distractions before they forget about them ?

[freespirit]

Im ecstatic with the direction this thread took...I feel enlightened. Knowledge is power, right?

[NYbutterfly]

Oh good! I just wanted to make sure you didn't feel discounted. Way to stay positive!:D Now everyone go read "The China Study"!

[Tootsie]

Thanks Lucy, Revvell et al for your enlightened posts. You've changed my thinking. I have already signed up to be a volounteer at this year's 3 Day Walk which is Nov 9-11th here in San Diego. I think I'll go anyway and wear a "Raw Cures" T-shirt at the event and talk with anyone who asks. That is the audience that needs the raw food information.

[LearningDaily]

As soon as I read the first post, I thought "HA!" Have you guys read "The China Study"? I know many of us raw fooders have. It's an eye opener and totally explains what these organizations are all about (read=money and politics). Thanks for bringing it up, Lucy.


The ACS was one of the organizations that funded the China Study.

[Veganforlife]

Not surprised by this at all (ACS one of the sponsors of The China Study). It's all part of their game. Makes 'em look good; part of the brainwashing. Folks will think well gosh they are really caring. Uh-huh, right!

Look at Philip Morris and all the monopolies it holds. Even has commercials about not getting kids started smoking - uh-huh, right!

[CaliRaw]

Not surprised by this at all (ACS one of the sponsors of The China Study). It's all part of their game. Makes 'em look good; part of the brainwashing. Folks will think well gosh they are really caring. Uh-huh, right!

Look at Philip Morris and all the monopolies it holds. Even has commercials about not getting kids started smoking - uh-huh, right!



I believe that was part of the tobacco settlement. I doubt if they'd be doing it otherwise.

[chopstiklb]

The American Cancer Society is performing an ongoing study about how a persons lifestyle affects their chance of getting cancer. My mother really wanted me to participate but you must be 30-65 years of age, and Im 26.

So- I am reaching out to all persons over the age of 30, who have been cancer free, to contact the ACS. Im hoping enough raw foodists may participate and the masses of america may finally have proof that a diet of raw and living foods is the key to a dis-ease free life!

It is called the Cancer Prevention Study 3 (cps3)

My father died from cancer and modern medicine's so-called cure of intense radiation and chemo. If I had only known then what I know now, I am confident He wouldnt have endured such a horrible experience. Not to mention that watching your father die over a period of several months(at one point he didnt know who I was), is something no child should have to watch.

I believe you take a couple of extensive initial surveys, they take blood samples, and then you recieve another survey every two years...they have done this in the past, and they concluded that smoking causes cancer from one of the previous studies

Any volunteers???!?!?!? Lets provide future generations the nutritional knowledge to eradicate cancer and dis-ease!!
Sorry, but the ACS won't believe a darn word we are saying. They are cousins to the FDA and we know that money runs those organizations from the top to the bottom. No volunteers on this end. Raw foodist don't need to help those folks..they buy their advertisements. Besides, it's not only about raw food. It's about our total lifestyle...Ride on