View Full Version : the opposite of success....overeating
Spiral Leana
09-24-2007, 12:10 PM
can anyone relate??...I need some encouragment today. I love being raw and it makes me feel great but I still find I am overeating under stress.......Last night I came home from a three day weekend of dancing, friends and raw bliss but I took one step into my office and ate a POUND of almonds (raw but not soaked) in one sitting. Embarrassing but I feel so much positivity on this forum...i think it is a good idea to call out
It makes my body feel horrible...I can literally feel my gallbladder under the attack of all the fat...but I came in to work this morning and went right for them....this is with a belly full of green smoothie!! I feel out of control and that I am letting the emotion drive my behavior. I also added fruit this weekend because I was staying at a guest house and it was all that was available. I felt good energy but I ate like 3 bananas and 2 apples for breakfast and then 2 more apples at lunch and 3 more apples for dinner. At lunch I went back like 4 times for more guacamole......
I really am trying to not focus on losing weight anymore. I'd like to focus on eating at regular meal times and not over eating. I don't want to do anymore fasting because I feel like it puts my body into extremes of fasting and binging
ugh...i can't stand how I feel (physically) right now....
mulch
09-24-2007, 12:35 PM
i hope you feel better
JulesRules
09-24-2007, 12:45 PM
I am such a rookie, but it sounds to me that your fruit and green smoothie intake is not out of control...but your nuts. I wonder if this means you are not getting enough good fat....
You are the only one who knows if it is emotional eating...but if you looked at the amount of food in terms of calories for all of the fruit and your green smoothie, you would not be out of whack...
I really don't know enough about this to say, but I have read lots of posts where people are eating several avovados a day. I can see why the nuts (particularly unsoaked) might be difficult to digest.
Could you keep your almonds in an out of sight place? Or perhaps before you eat, try a TBS or two of coconut, olive, or flax seed oil, in your smoothie or before you sit down to dinner?
J
justinesmith
09-24-2007, 12:57 PM
I agree with Jules. ONly you know your body and you know it better than anyone. If you feel crummy after eating so many nuts I would agree to maybe keep them out of the house for a bit. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result (welcome to the world of the insane). Good luck and at least it's almonds and not french fries!! :D
lore-ah
09-24-2007, 01:07 PM
I had the same problem! Popping nuts feels a lot like munching on chips and I started doing it without even thinking about what I was doing. I would also feel bloated and gross afterwards. I did exactly what everyone said to do; I got some more fats from other sources (mainly avocados) and ate something else instead of heading for the nuts. Usually if I thought "NO NUTS have a smoothie if you're hungry" I realized I wasn't hungry at all. I just wanted to graze. That helped put it in perspective for me. I still do graze on the nuts but I don't go crazy with them. Hope that helps
kiropa
09-24-2007, 01:09 PM
i can absolutely relate to everything you said.
acknowledgement is the first critical step. do a happy dance!
first -- DO NOT BEAT YOURSELF UP. you are human. so what if you ate more guac or bananas than you planned? no harm done, in my book.
just start fresh with the next moment or next meal.
it sounds like you KNOW how you want to eat and WHY you may be differing.
i am DEFINITELY NOT an expert but i recommend replacing eating with some other behavior. do some self talk. get some self-help books.
one step at a time. you are doing great!
lore-ah
09-24-2007, 01:26 PM
Eating a lot of bananas or avocados doesn't make me feel bloated or like I ate too much. I've been dropping weight like crazy and I go through at least an avocado a day and a couple bananas minimum. Ugh, but those nuts
Spiral Leana
09-24-2007, 01:30 PM
wow everyone thanks a lot....it really does help to put it out there and get over it. much appreciated:p
Spiral Leana
09-24-2007, 01:33 PM
yeah the avocado and fruit didn't make me feel bad at all. a little too full for a 2 hour dance class afterwards but still not bad
i just want to get ingrained with three healthy meals a day, of whole raw foods and let it be less of a mental obsession
lore-ah
09-24-2007, 01:54 PM
Yeah, I'm slowly getting over a food obsession myself. Years of counting calories, wondering about good vs bad foods, etc. Eating was either a chore or a hedonistic binge. Slowly I'm getting to the point where I do my thing and when I feel hungry I think "time for a green smoothie or salad" rather than obsessing all day about what I'm eating. It's liberating!
That's the perfect word for Raw. So who says we have to eat three meals a day? Grazers eat whenever. Don't restrict yourself to old thinking. I realize the past binging figures in, but focus more on eating when you're hungry and tune into why you are picking up something to put into your mouth. Just my opinion. I've done the too many nuts thing, too. At first I couldn't get enough; now I rarely eat them outside of a couple of recipes. All things change with raw.
Spiral Leana
09-24-2007, 02:14 PM
I think the reason I want to do meals is because the grazing means I am eating when I am doing other things...at work, in the car etc and it is disturbing and I catch myself thinking about food way too much..The three meals would mean eating with the kids in the morning and at night...preparing my meals with intention and sharing that time as a time of nourishment...and then giving my thought over to CREATING rather than CONSUMING during the other hours
Wise of you Spiral Lina. You have your plan; I wish you success in working it. I'm just all about not feeling guilty. I'm truly sick of it and want to come to terms with myself and my eating. My children are grown, so my road is a little different. You have good suggestions. I'll be watching for more info. I need all the help I can get.
Sorry I spelled your name wrong!
Spiral Leana
09-24-2007, 02:31 PM
i feel you on the guilt thing...that is why I hopped on here this morning to gain some perspective and stop the cycle of guilt and blowing it out of proportion.
PS the kids aren't mine they are just my blessing in the living situation I am in right now!:D
Riiiya
09-24-2007, 09:44 PM
uuuuuh at times it happens to me too- then comes the regret and the guilt.... yea nuts are a problem for me as well
FOR that reason i started to buy them in bulk...just a bit - like about 100 grams for a day... every other day. IF they lay around at home, i know i might eat ALL of them in one day. They just have this junk food feeling (munching on something...they're crunchy and all)
all i can say- realize your "weakness" and either buy them in small amounts or eliminate them for some time OR work on self-control (that's what i'm TRYING right now.. just Talking to yourself before going for a pound of nuts)
rawsurfer
09-24-2007, 11:32 PM
dude that is definietyl not too much concerning the fruits. i dont know if there is an easy way with the overeating though. i know for me fasting helped a little, as well as excersise and just generally mmoving all that uneasy energy.. its been 8 months and now i finally dont really overeat except ifthe food is exceptionally wonderful.
spiralgirl
09-25-2007, 01:02 AM
Spiral Leana,
I can relate to your post as I do have days like that too and other days where I'm simple not as hungry. When I do slip up I realize that I'm changing years of bad habits like overeating and thinking of good versus bad food.
What helps and I don't always do this, but sometimes I stop and ask myself if I'm really hungry or just filling a need. Drinking water also helps with not overeating too.
Spiral Leana
09-25-2007, 01:27 PM
Hi everyone, spiral girl I definitely KNEW that I was dehydrated and that set off a lot of the eating....I also know that working with this I feel like I am on the final frontier of changing some very deep behaviors...years of numbing my consciousness....but now don't drink, don't smoke....and with raw I really feel like the potential for full clarity:D
rawsurfer, the fruit freaks me out a little because of a history of gut imbalances that react to sugar. I am fighting OLD parasites/bacteria and they love sugar....from february and I have been off of all sugars/fruit /grain for months to try to starve them out...but wow it has given me loads of energy to eat fruit!!
I have so much appreciation for this forum....I feel so humble, open and received...thanks!!!:p
chilove
09-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Hi there,
Make sure that you eat fruits everyday. Fruits are our natural food. There is no need to fear them. If you are eating enough fruit, your body will get the carbs it needs and will feel much more satiated and you will have less cravings.
Also, remember that everyone in our culture eats in response to emotional needs. It is entirely natural. Try to develop other, more productive ways of "sitting" with your feelings, of experiencing them and letting them be.
Blessings,
Audrey
www.rawhealing.com
StarFire
09-30-2007, 03:13 PM
Okay lil miss spiral leana... lemme get this straight first...
now - you had a green smoothie right?
then --- no wait -- wait... ummm...
okay the green smoothie was another day -- but the fruit thing -
okay- you had 3 bananas, and 2 apples for breakfast...
then 2 more apples for lunch
and 3 apples for dinner...
right?
honey - that's not that much food! At least I dont think so.
I mean think about what you ate before -- okay - I dunno what you ate before -- let's use me as an example....
for dinner I might have a 2 tacos with spanish rice and beans with cheese on my plate. now compared to the bulk of 3 apples... see - that's not that much food really...!!
I read somewhere that with fruit - you can eat alot of it - until you are full... I think Alissa even wrote about that in her book - eating a lot of fruit for a meal. nbd....
unless you have issues with sugar... then it might be a problem... like me... I cannot do fruit. If you don't have a problem with that then - I don't see that you are 'over eating in the fruit department'....
but the almonds... wow... that's a lot of almonds...
first - your body might be crying out for fats to balance out all the fruit... or protein... try adding coconut oil to your green smoothies - that might help with the good fat that your body is needing.
Also if the issue is protein - Tiggerbounce just posted last week that grapefruit is surprisingly a great source of protein! (that's good to know!)
and last I would say ... pay attention to what's going in your mouth .. that's a big one with me...
I just pop stuff in my mouth without thinking... try sitting down to eat when you can and really enjoying your food - feeling the textures and smelling the sweet goodness of it ... and chew - chew - chew....
oh -- AND DRINK LOTS AND LOTS OF WATER!
I hope you're feeling better soon...
and bottom line is ... spiral leana... it IS all raw - and that's a major plus... it's not like you're going back 4 times for cheesburgers or french fries... guacamole is rawlicious goodness.. and will give you a beautiful complextion! YOU MUST BE RAWMACIOUSLY GLOWING!! ;) :D :D
Green Life
10-22-2007, 10:32 PM
It's one thing to overeat raw, but it's an entire other world when you eat raw for a week or so, then overeat cooked! Don't do it!! I'd say, it's better to overeat raw then cooked anyday! So you can pat yourself on the back and be pround that you are at least sorta on the right track, ya know?
I love to eat, and can out eat practically anyone around me. I love food, alot. SO, before going 100 percent raw a few months ago, I had an issue with eating raw for a time, say, a week, and then I would backslide into overeating cooked (always vegan, usually starches) to the point where I would feel it coming up in my throat. Oh, that was a HORRIBLE feeling, especially when one is trying to sleep . With raw, I NEVER got that if I over ate. It's was only with cooked food!!:eek: So, in a way, it's easier to over eat raw because there aren't as many negative symptoms with it, as far as I'm concerned. Nevertheless, when I did over eat raw like that, I would still feel comfortable. Not feeling like I'm going to toss, as in cooked. See what I mean.
It's all a transitional healing process. It takes time to unlearn what we have learned.. it can be very difficult at times, can't it?
slmcarte
10-23-2007, 12:00 AM
I TOTALLY know what you are talking about. Some things that have worked for me;
1. Don't start labeling "bad and good" raw foods.
2. Make a tall glass of ice water and start sipping away and THEN
3. Make it REALLY inconvenient to pig out. Take only 1 or 2 almonds, go in a different room, sit at the table, chew them up good and enjoy every bit- Then GO back for more if you want. Same thing with anything you eat (one apple or even a 1/2 out of the fridge, whatever). Make smaller portions, and sit somewhere to eat them. When your stress eating you won't eat as much and make yourself sick this way because you are eating less, even though you are constantly eating....make sense? (Maybe not, maybe it's not the same thing your experiencing?).
I've had moments (every month actually;) )where it's like an out of body experience. It's like the full-moon comes out and I'm frantically pigging out and can't get enough. I don't fight it anymore, I just use the inconvenience strategy until it passes, it seems to help when I remember to do it!
Madeleine.Blythe
10-23-2007, 12:37 PM
can anyone relate??...I need some encouragment today. I love being raw and it makes me feel great but I still find I am overeating under stress.......Last night I came home from a three day weekend of dancing, friends and raw bliss but I took one step into my office and ate a POUND of almonds (raw but not soaked) in one sitting. Embarrassing but I feel so much positivity on this forum...i think it is a good idea to call out
It makes my body feel horrible...I can literally feel my gallbladder under the attack of all the fat...but I came in to work this morning and went right for them....this is with a belly full of green smoothie!! I feel out of control and that I am letting the emotion drive my behavior. I also added fruit this weekend because I was staying at a guest house and it was all that was available. I felt good energy but I ate like 3 bananas and 2 apples for breakfast and then 2 more apples at lunch and 3 more apples for dinner. At lunch I went back like 4 times for more guacamole......
I really am trying to not focus on losing weight anymore. I'd like to focus on eating at regular meal times and not over eating. I don't want to do anymore fasting because I feel like it puts my body into extremes of fasting and binging
ugh...i can't stand how I feel (physically) right now....
I understand exactly what you're talking about, and it's really hard to overcome... It's like.. hell, I'm raw.. I can overeat! .......That's not so much the case.. Don't beat yourself up over it, though. See it as a challenge, something you can work on overcoming.. and you can, there's no doubt about it. Transitioning to raw from cooked foods was hard for all us, but you did it. You can overcome this, too.
Dj 247
10-23-2007, 01:44 PM
I think the reason I want to do meals is because the grazing means I am eating when I am doing other things...at work, in the car etc and it is disturbing and I catch myself thinking about food way too much..The three meals would mean eating with the kids in the morning and at night...preparing my meals with intention and sharing that time as a time of nourishment...and then giving my thought over to CREATING rather than CONSUMING during the other hours
I have been over eating and cannot figure out why? I am trying to do a regular eating cycle that I got into when I joined Jenny Craig. I eat breakfast around 7, have a snack around 10, eat lunch at 12, have another snack around 2 or 3, have dinner around 5 or 6, and my last snack at 8 unless I stay up really late. I have to stop eating all day long! Food is not what my life is all about! I hope you find what works for you!
Spiral Leana
10-23-2007, 02:21 PM
i see this has resurfaced...for me I am realizing that besides certain emotions, certain FOODS will trigger me to overeat. pretty much anything with sugar. i was really stabalized and not preoccupied with food and then had some unsweetened coconut shreds yesterday and my whole complex kicked in
lean protein and vegetables for me and I am liberated.....anything else, I am a hungry ghost
solongng00dnite
10-24-2007, 12:46 PM
I def over indulge. I make like every dessert I possibly can from Alissa's book out of what I have on hand. Its tough cause its like well im eating good stuff but when is it too much.
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