100% Raw Forum?

[TheAvocadess]

Hi!

Is there any way to create a forum for just those who are 100% raw? Here I go whining, but I'm seriously tired of reading about people's food issues, issues with not eating nuts/fats, whining about things and I know they aren't 100% raw, and lastly, I know from going from 85% to 100% is TOTALLY like night & day. I know some won't agree with that, but for me and others I've talked to it's true.

I think it's wonderful people eat any raw at all, but PLEASE give us 100% folks our own spot?

It's almost depressed me reading some of these crazy posts with people having food issues and I simply don't have room to fear fats or fruits, or whatever right now.

I'd really like input from people who are 100% raw at this point. It's difficult enough feeling like an alien with living in a cooked world. It's just become depressing to come to get support here and see people trying to mess with Alissa's suggestions for eating and whining because they're drinking coffee or under 100% raw and aren't seeing result. :(

Ack! Enough already! I need to focus on success, keeping it simple, and doing what Alissa says in her book. I'm losing weight. Looking better. Feeling better. People are noticing a change. It's only been almost 3 weeks. I feel it's critical to come here for support.

Anyway, is it possible to have a 100% forum for those who are serious about raw foods 100%?

Love,
The Avocadess
I hope so!

[Revvell]

I think it's wonderful people eat any raw at all, but PLEASE give us 100% folks our own spot?



But, if we don't have food issues, fear nuts and avos and have drama... what would we talk about???? (ohhh, we're gonna get in trouble for this..)

So Ms. Avocadess, tell us what you really think. LMAO

Anyway, methinks you just started a new thread so how about we start here, 'k??? Let's see what we have to chat about.

[TheAvocadess]

Sorry, there was supposed to be a light bulb by my post, not a thumbs down. LOL! Maybe it's a bad idea?

Love,
The Avocadess

[spicyfull]

As I often say........Life is about Choices......RAW is a Choice and Everyone is in a different Stage. So we have the Choice to read a Post or Thread or not. Some fall, we help them up to Try again. I think it is important to Encourage each other no matter what Stage they are in.

If you should fall we'll be here for you. So a little patience is all it takes. I read a Thread last week that said if you drink distilled Water.......you're not 100%.

No I don't think we need another Forum...........

[TheAvocadess]

Thank you, but that's not what I meant. People will fall off on occasion and some won't. Maybe they are trying to do 100% and need that kind of support? That's what I'm talking about... a place for those 100% or trying their darnedest to be.

Love,
The Avocadess

[CaliRaw]

As I often say........Life is about Choices......RAW is a Choice and Everyone is in a different Stage. So we have the Choice to read a Post or Thread or not. Some fall, we help them up to Try again. I think it is important to Encourage each other no matter what Stage they are in.

If you should fall we'll be here for you. So a little patience is all it takes. I read a Thread last week that said if you drink distilled Water.......you're not 100%.
No I don't think we need another Forum...........

Good lord! Are you serious? I saw a distilled water post, but didn't read it. I'm glad that I didn't.

Even if there was a 100% raw forum, there would still be the same issue, because some people have different definitions of what RAW is. Many haven't read Alissa's book or any other book. Also, some may decide to 'round up'. You know...I'm 99.87325% raw, can I post? LOL

[TheAvocadess]

Even if there was a 100% raw forum, there would still be the same issue, because some people have different definitions of what RAW is. Many haven't read Alissa's book or any other book. Also, some may decide to 'round up'. You know...I'm 99.87325% raw, can I post? LOL

So true... LOL! But at least if they were trying. Ok, maybe we need a forum for those 100% (or trying to be) and have read Alissa's book. There will be tests! LOL! :D Just kiiiiiidding! ;)

[Rawkinlocs]

I'll submit your request to Alissa. I understand what you're saying, but please be mindful of the fact that not everyone is in the same place or on the same level with raw and while one may feel it's whining, etc...this could lead to some major arguing and debate and could be taken the wrong way and seen as offensive and sort of an "attack" by others who are not quite where you are.

[Rawkinlocs]

So true... LOL! But at least if they were trying. Ok, maybe we need a forum for those 100% (or trying to be) and have read Alissa's book. There will be tests! LOL! :D Just kiiiiiidding! ;)

In all truth and honesty, that's kinda what the WHOLE forum is supposed to be...but again, not everyone is in the same place...this IS supposed to be for those striving to be all raw and based on Alissa's teachings...but it's kinda hard on a public forum not to expect that some will not be following her way totally or that some will not be 100% raw especially when people find the forum from other avenues such as links from other sites or through the search engines and some people who come here have never even heard of Alissa (let alone read the book) until they arrive to this forum, so...

But Caliraw's right...even IF everyone were 100% or striving for it, there are still going to be "issues"...emotional eating issues, temptations and cravings, slip-ups, etc. depending on the person and their situation/circumstances.

[TheAvocadess]

And I TOTALLY know what you mean. I hesitated to mention it, but thought I'd toss it out there. Who knows? Maybe it can be tried, and if it has a negative outcome, it can be removed.

What a shame though. I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but it's easy being 100%, yet sometimes difficult and it would be nice to have a spot to get feedback from those on the same journey. I hope that makes sense. :confused:

Anyway, just raw food for thought!:o

Love,
The Avocadess

[Rawkinlocs]

Oh I totally understand what you're saying...I really do and who knows, it just might happen. I "think" Alissa's out of town but when she returns and I hear from her, we'll be sure to discuss this and see what transpires! I think there's a change about to come anyway for the forum so, we'll see! :)

[TheAvocadess]

As Raw Foodist, shouldn't we at least live a little dangerously? lol! Truth be told, I was listening to Rawkin Radio and you & Ms. Alissa were chatting about the drama and people who have issues, complain, and aren't 100% or they wouldn't be whining, not losing, etc... etc...! And of course, here I am whining, :o but for different reasons. :D

Yeah, I like certain risks. I try to avoid the drama though. Anyway, yes - it might cause a heap o' trouble or maybe be a beautiful thing. I guess time would tell! lol!

Love,
The Avocadess

[TheAvocadess]

Thank you Rawkinlocs!

I didn't finish my thought before, had to check the temp on the dehydrator, but the Rawkin Radio show I listened to today, really made sense about the difference in doing 100% raw and not or not following suggestions, having food fears/issues, etc... and it really started me thinking how nice it would be to have a forum for those striving to stay 100% or those old timer 100%ers.

Not to step on anyone's ego of course, but there is a def. difference in percentages. When I did Hallelujah's 85%, it was completely different and I was hardly losing and I had wicked cravings. :eek: It was awful.

And, if I do ever fall off the wagon as SpicyFull mentioned, it would be great to have a place to go to talk to those 100%ers and find out where I went wrong. My first thoughts are that I wasn't following Alissa's suggestions, doing it MY WAY :rolleyes: , which gets me nowhere, and leaving out a food group completely like fats or fruits, then comes cravings, then danger! Here comes the cooked!

Anyway, just thoughts. Thanks for all the input!

Love,
The Avocadess

[samariah]

There are people who experience issues with nuts/fruits, etc even if they are 100 Percent raw and of course they should be allowed to discuss those issues. We can't ignore when people are struggling. In my opinion, this forum is to help and build one another up, not merely fend for ourselves/shelter ourselves in an effort to ultimately guarentee our own success. If you are going to stay raw or high raw, you have to be strong, you have to be able to put up with discouraging things and you can't expect a perfect safe haven all the time. You can't ignore the reality of the situation.

[Eva]

I fall more often than I would like, but my goal is to be 100% ONLY because I did that for 30 days before, and my gracious me oh my was my life amazing! When I slip regularly and/or allow myself to have a bit here and then, it spirals, and I don't have close to the same benefit.

It seems that the commentary sometimes where individuals complain and ask questions but are not even trying to be 100% raw... well, it discourages me. I read about all of these problems and have a more negative view of raw whether I mean to or not. In reality, the problems have nothing to do with raw but with not being raw and I don't know that until I notice OTHER posts by the same folks talking about this and that non raw stuff they eat.

BUT I still and enjoy drink herbal hot tea, which is technically not raw, so I guess we all have our own definitions and ideas and allowances. And the fact of the matter is I ONLY walk in my own shoes, and I may not understand how or why someone else can allow certain things and vice versa. The last thing I want to do is encourage some sort of elitist and discouraging group of only the best of the best to sit around writing about how they are the "best" rawbies!

Still, I think it could be worth thinking about maybe having a separate forum or thread specifically about transitioning or "high" raw which would be listed on the main page and could really be for those who would like to maybe one day be 100% but that day is not today and they're just moving toward it. That might facilitate more understanding about the place everyone is really in when they're posting. And the other threads (the ones that exist now) could be "limited" to posts about difficulties and challenges and getting help, etc. within the 100% raw lifestyle or attempt at 100% (which I thought was the purpose of the board anyhow!)

No matter what, the forum as it is now (like all of us humans) is not perfect for every individual, but it has definitely helped me a lot! :D

[TheAvocadess]

I'm surprised at all the negativity, but in suggesting a forum for 100% raw, I wasn't trying to "shelter" myself (or anyone) from the realities of raw. To the contrary, create a place for those who would find answers to such issues and others who are 100% raw.

As I stated before, if you aren't 100%, that's fine, but 100% is very different from not 100%. Many times people who are 100% don't have the same issues as others who aren't.

Also, hearing from those who are following Alissa's book/plan 100% would be great to hear from instead of those who don't and are complaining that raw isn't working, etc...

These are just ideas, and hopefully positive ones. Yes, as stated before, even those 100% may have issues with certain foods, and often times many don't, but it would be good (possibly) to have a place to talk about it with those on the "same journey" or those who are old timers and 100%. What a learning tool!:D

Love,
The Avocadess

[ReneeH]

"I don't mean to disrespect anyone, but it's easy being 100%, yet sometimes difficult"

...HUMMM.... O.K...now THAT was confusing to me!!! And if THAT's what you're talking about with your 100% Forum, count me out!!! That confused the heck out of me!!! If something is "easy" for you then how is it "difficult"?????? And, during your "sometimes difficult" times, are you "whining"???? :rolleyes:

HUMMM..... Well, I have re-read Alissa's book several times and I honestly don't get that from her. She seems to me to support those on this "journey" to being 100% RAW as well as those who jump in the deep end and commit to it 100%, like yourself. Don't get me wrong, I'm really GLAD it's been "easy" for you. But I think if you're looking for a forum where no one has problems, you may be there by yourself...

[TheAvocadess]

You are right on target! My idea was for a positive learning place, not to diss others who aren't 100%. I'd love a spot to learn from others who are doing 100% or striving to get there. Excellent post - thanks!!! :D

You know, the others who haven't read Alissa's book, are happy at 85% or whatever, etc... they have the entire rest of the forum areas to talk/complain/post, but please, let's hope Alissa agrees to a 100% spot for those of us who need/want it.

Also, I wondered prior to posting the idea how many non-100% people would dislike the idea taking it as a threat. NOT what I was trying to do, but it's interesting to watch who is threatened and who sees it as a possible positive learning tool.

Love,
The Avocadess

[Revvell]

I don't think anyone is ignoring anything. My feeling is, what Avocadess is saying that, instead of all the drama, gnashing of teeth, etc., seeing raw in the light it is intended on this board.

On Rawkin Radio Alissa and I have both told about our journeys to being raw. It took her approximately 10 years; it's taken me, I dunno, 7? 8? The point is, why put ourselves through all the "I'VE FALLEN OFF THE WAGON!! PLEASE HELP ME!!! " thing and just realize, it's just a detour. No one is hurt; nothing damaged; it's not a life or death situation... just do what you know is right and continue on.

If you were on a real path and you took a wrong turn, you'd just turn around, go back and get on the right path... no trauma (well, in some cases) no drama. Stop complicating the simple.

The other thing is ~ everyone here as given so much information on things one can do if they have any issues with nut allergies, digestion, etc. It's in my podcasts; it's in Rawkin' Radio.. use the resources that are available.

V. Boutenko says, if one's got digestion issues, and many do at first, then start off with green smoothies for 2-3 months until that's resolved.

That is still part of Alissa's program you know. She does have smoothies in her book AND, more importantly she has assisted THOUSANDS of people the way she does it! 100% all the time! NOT raw for breakfast and lunch; then cooked, evenings and weekends. That's not the program!

Don't complain about the results unless you've got the book; got the dvd's and are doing the program.. well, don't complain on this thread, anyway. What's the point? You're not doing the program. Just take yourself gently by the hand and get back on it. No fuss, no muss. Love yourself and git-r-done!

That's my take on what she's looking for. Could be wrong though. :)

Revvellicious

[Revvell]

O.k., as I'm reading my own post I'm realizing we're complaining about the people complaining. Stopping that here and now.

What I would like this to be is, a support for people like me who, instead of complaining just say, o.k. this is where I am; how do I make it better?

When I don't eat raw, it's not a big thing. I shrug my shoulders and go "Oh well", now I know why I like raw better and, continue on. Soooo easy.

I've even got a button I hit that says "That was easy".

[TheAvocadess]

That's my take on what she's looking for. Could be wrong though. :)

Revvellicious

You hit that nail right on the head!

Love,
The Avocadess

[lafsalot]

Avocadess - why not just jump in on the September challenge thread? ~ Cathy

[TheAvocadess]

If you're 100%, you might know what I mean by it's easy being 100%, and sometimes, as is common in life, we all have a few ups & downs, it's isn't easy.

You might be breezing along for months 100% easy as one of Alissa's raw pies, and suddenly you get a whiff of pasta, are confronted with cooked at some point, have a craving, whatever. The point IS that we are all humans and as Revvell refers to that "monkey mind" creeps in and tries to mess up my path. 100% IS easy and sometimes, not very often!, it can be difficult. Not always! Some 100% people don't have cravings, or ever have problems.

It's more easy to be 100% than to not be for sure.

Yeah, I am whining. I stated that before in a prior post. So? We all whine at times. It certainly makes a difference as to what I'm whining about! I'm 100% raw. I read Alissa's book and yank it out constantly. My iPod is stuffed to the gills with Rawkin Radio and Revvell's shows and I listen and relisten every day. I'm also reading every raw book published and a subscription to Living Nutrition. I expect Alissa's DVD to come tomorrow and am PSYCHED! I'm doing everything possible to saturate my little world with 100% raw and following Alissa's book to the T! I'm losing excess weight, allergies are better, sleeping MUCH better, skin looks great, grey hair leaving, feel so much calmer and balanced, the list goes on & on!

I'm whining because remaining 100% is a numero uno priority in my life today and I'd love a forum of those who have gone through just what I am going through and can give me positive direction who are 100% raw.

Revvell said it better than I, but let's not focus so much on whining about my whining and pointing out that I'm whining, but the positive aspects of having a raw forum for those 100%.

Your comments are exactly why I feel
we need such a forum! :D

Love,
The Avocadess

[TheAvocadess]

...HUMMM.... O.K...now THAT was confusing to me!!! And if THAT's what you're talking about with your 100% Forum, count me out!!! That confused the heck out of me!!! If something is "easy" for you then how is it "difficult"?????? And, during your "sometimes difficult" times, are you "whining"???? :rolleyes:

HUMMM..... Well, I have re-read Alissa's book several times and I honestly don't get that from her. She seems to me to support those on this "journey" to being 100% RAW as well as those who jump in the deep end and commit to it 100%, like yourself. Don't get me wrong, I'm really GLAD it's been "easy" for you. But I think if you're looking for a forum where no one has problems, you may be there by yourself...

You so so obviously didn't read or if you did, you certainly misunderstood my posts completely. And with that kind of neg. attitude, I really wouldn't want that in such a positively intended forum anyway.

Please go back and re-read and if you don't want such a forum, fine! Please please - Don't visit it.

Love,
The Avocadess

[CaliRaw]

If you're 100%, you might know what I mean by it's easy being 100%, and sometimes, as is common in life, we all have a few ups & downs, it's isn't easy.

You might be breezing along for months 100% easy as one of Alissa's raw pies, and suddenly you get a whiff of pasta, are confronted with cooked at some point, have a craving, whatever. The point IS that we are all humans and as Revvell refers to that "monkey mind" creeps in and tries to mess up my path. 100% IS easy and sometimes, not very often!, it can be difficult. Not always! Some 100% people don't have cravings, or ever have problems.

It's more easy to be 100% than to not be for sure.

Yeah, I am whining. I stated that before in a prior post. So? We all whine at times. It certainly makes a difference as to what I'm whining about! I'm 100% raw. I read Alissa's book and yank it out constantly. My iPod is stuffed to the gills with Rawkin Radio and Revvell's shows and I listen and relisten every day. I'm also reading every raw book published and a subscription to Living Nutrition. I expect Alissa's DVD to come tomorrow and am PSYCHED! I'm doing everything possible to saturate my little world with 100% raw and following Alissa's book to the T! I'm losing excess weight, allergies are better, sleeping MUCH better, skin looks great, grey hair leaving, feel so much calmer and balanced, the list goes on & on!

I'm whining because remaining 100% is a numero uno priority in my life today and I'd love a forum of those who have gone through just what I am going through and can give me positive direction who are 100% raw.

Revvell said it better than I, but let's not focus so much on whining about my whining and pointing out that I'm whining, but the positive aspects of having a raw forum for those 100%.

Your comments are exactly why I feel
we need such a forum! :D

Love,
The Avocadess

I know exactly what you mean. It was easy for me to jump in and do 100% too. Last year I purchased Natalia Rose's first two raw/detox books and took the test. The test results indicated that I should start at level 3 in her program. That was a partial raw way of living. I was not able to do it. It wasn't until I found out about Alissa that I was successful. It's the nature of my personality. I know that. It's all or nothing. 100% suits me. I can understand how it could be more difficult for others, however.

Honestly, I would also like to see a 100% forum, but think that the same issues experienced in the current posting areas will be encountered there. Thus, creating more frustration for you and others.

[ReneeH]

You so so obviously didn't read or if you did, you certainly misunderstood my posts completely. And with that kind of neg. attitude, I really wouldn't want that in such a positively intended forum anyway.

Please go back and re-read and if you don't want such a forum, fine! Please please - Don't visit it.



Honestly Avocadess, that really won't be a problem. You see, I'm here for encouragement, not to get beaten up on. I love Alissa's philosophy. I have read her book and, while you're waiting on her DVD's, I have seen it and am currently 100%. My attitude is not negative, it's realistic. I hope that Alissa keeps her board exactly the way that it is because it encourages those who are striving to live 100% to do just that and those who are 100% to encourage those striving to be such. I am thankful from posts from Alissa, Revell, Rawkinlocs, Starfire and others who encourage rather than tear down.

Believe me, I hope that your 3 weeks turns into a lifetime of living RAW. I really do. Rather you want to admit it or not, we ARE all on the same boat, so to speak. We are all imperfect humans trying to do the best we can with what God gave us.

No worries... Since I don't find this post of encouragement to me, I won't be visiting here again.

[TheAvocadess]

Honestly Avocadess, that really won't be a problem. You see, I'm here for encouragement, not to get beaten up on. I love Alissa's philosophy. I have read her book and, while you're waiting on her DVD's, I have seen it and am currently 100%. My attitude is not negative, it's realistic. I hope that Alissa keeps her board exactly the way that it is because it encourages those who are striving to live 100% to do just that and those who are 100% to encourage those striving to be such. I am thankful from posts from Alissa, Revell, Rawkinlocs, Starfire and others who encourage rather than tear down.

Believe me, I hope that your 3 weeks turns into a lifetime of living RAW. I really do. Rather you want to admit it or not, we ARE all on the same boat, so to speak. We are all imperfect humans trying to do the best we can with what God gave us.

No worries... Since I don't find this post of encouragement to me, I won't be visiting here again.

No, we shouldn't attack which is exactly why I figured you didn't read or possibly understand my posts. You contradict yourself now in referring to reading posts that are encouraging rather than tear us down- that's the whole point of a 100% forum!!! Let me say that agai: THAT"S THE WHOLE POINT OF A 100% FORUM! To help and encourage those who ARE 100% and those striving to be! Had you read other posts, you'd see that was my whole point.

I wish you the best too, and would hope that you make it to 100%. It's incredible. Maybe a 100% forum would help you get to that desired point? Probably!

We aren't all in the same boat. And the more people post, the more I see it. Some don't want to read Alissa's book, see the DVD, or be 100%. Some enjoy bashing others and wallowing in their food issues and refuse to do Alissa's program and then wonder why or say silly things like raw doesn't work.

That's fine, let them post in the other forums. Also, let us who DO Alissa's plan, have read the book, and are 100% continue to strive for betterment with a forum where we can relate to those in the same boat. The others in other boats can feel free to utilize other forums for whatever their needs are.
LOL! :D
Love,
The Avocadess

[Rawkinlocs]

Okay, I'm going to close this thread for the time being. Hopefully no one will get up in arms about it but I think it's best for now. In all truth and honesty, when I read the first post, I had a feeling that it was going to escalate into something heated but I guess a part of me kinda hoped it didn't/wouldn't. The suggestion/request for the 100% Raw Forum has been put out there so I think it can be left at that and we'll see what happens as a result.