Dr. Oz

[mel_s12]

I'm watching Oprah right now, and Dr. Oz is a guest. I have never heard of him before today. He showed a study that shows eating a high dairy diet (high calcium) increases weight loss by 100%. ughhh!! :mad:

[KristensRaw]

I know! FRUSTRATING!

Also, there is a special on BBC Discovery Health channel...tonight, tomorrow and Wednesday night. It's titled American Health, The Truth About Food. I think he's heading it up, or at least part of it. There should be some good stuff in it...as well as some frustrating things, I'm sure!

[lore-ah]

By 100%? That can't be right. I'd love to see those studies!

[mel_s12]

Now they are showing humans eating 11 pounds of raw foods a day just like chimpanzees! I like this one! :)

[Allie]

yeah it was exciting to see raw foods being talked about on oprah. :) now we just need a segment with alissa and it was be really awesome!

[dreamrawalwz]

I agree with A LOT of Dr. Oz says so please don't be put off by this one statement he made, it's unusual haha. He's a huge proponent of organic and raw fruits and veggies. I think he has mentioned vegan once.

EDIT: what he said about water....seems like many will use that out of context. Many people who eat SAD don't eat water-containing foods so...it doesn't work like that!

[CaliRaw]

I agree with A LOT of Dr. Oz says so please don't be put off by this one statement he made, it's unusual haha. He's a huge proponent of organic and raw fruits and veggies. I think he has mentioned vegan once.

EDIT: what he said about water....seems like many will use that out of context. Many people who eat SAD don't eat water-containing foods so...it doesn't work like that!

I, too, agree with a lot of what he says. That particular show hasn't run here in CA yet, but I've seen him on Oprah and other shows several times. I've read parts of some of his books ("YOU, the Owner's Manual", "YOU on a Diet"). He has said that he carries nuts around to snack on throughout the day.

[ladypeace82]

I'm watching Oprah right now, and Dr. Oz is a guest. I have never heard of him before today. He showed a study that shows eating a high dairy diet (high calcium) increases weight loss by 100%. ughhh!! :mad:

That's so hilarious. I always get mad at those "drink more milk helps with weight loss" commercials. if that was the case my overweight DH would be a stick figure. I can't get him to stop drinking so much milk. He isn't diabetic, so it isn't a craving b/c of that. he has to go in for fasting checkups twice a year. He's literally "healthy" by the SAD standpoint.

Milk does not do that. sorry Dr. Oz

[lukster9]

Dr. Oz is my cardiologyst. I went to see him for MVP and seizers and passing out. He told me RAW is great as long as I feel good and take supplements. on his website he has a list of the supplements you should take daily.

Regularly taking vitamin C (1200 mg/day)
vitamin E (400 IU/day)
calcium (1000-1200 mg/day)
vitamin D (400-600 IU/day)
folate (400 mcg/day),
vitamin B6 (6 mg/day) can make your RealAge 6 years younger.



http://www.realage.com/research_library/12ways.aspx

[Revvell]

So, what would one have to take if they eat cooked food?

[KristensRaw]

Dr. Oz always seems so "nice" and I love how he "breaks it down" for you when explaining things. If he does head up the special I mentioned in my earlier post, it'll probably be filled with a lot of great info. As always....take bits and pieces from all different sources and weave your own blanket, eh?

[lukster9]

Revvell,

what do you mean?:confused:

[Random Violin Guy]

Dr. Oz is my cardiologyst. I went to see him for MVP and seizers and passing out. He told me RAW is great as long as I feel good and take supplements. on his website he has a list of the supplements you should take daily.

Regularly taking vitamin C (1200 mg/day)
vitamin E (400 IU/day)
calcium (1000-1200 mg/day)
vitamin D (400-600 IU/day)
folate (400 mcg/day),
vitamin B6 (6 mg/day) can make your RealAge 6 years younger.



http://www.realage.com/research_library/12ways.aspx

I suppose I could understand taking vitamin C if you cook it out of your foods, but does he really think it's necessary to supplement vitamin C if you eat plenty of raw fruits and veggies? Odd. I wonder about the vitamin D, too... why would he recommend pills over sunlight?

[lukster9]

my best guess would be that most of his patients are not RAW but eating a normal SAD diet. As for the sun, i try never to go into the sun. I don't enjoy sunlight:o

[Random Violin Guy]

You don't enjoy sunlight? huh... I love it. It's so warm and relaxing. Have you ever noticed how people are kind of tired and lifeless on cloudy days? Or how so many people are depressed in winter when the sun is hidden behind the clouds and the days are short? Then when the sun comes back out, people are so much happier...

Unfortunately, it's cloudy here right now. And cold. :( Come back Mr. Sun!!

[simone_24]

he also said a lifestyle of fruits, veggies, and nuts was very benificial also.

[KristensRaw]

I like how he said "count nutrients" not calories. That was a nice piece about the evolutionary diet. I'm getting more excited to watch the special tonight.

[currious]

Did he say calcium or milk?

think of all the calcium some one who eats raw food intakes through their greens, nuts, any magnesium they pick up along the way.....:D

on a side weird note, there is a tribe in Africa(or was) that survived mainly on cattle milk and cattle blood (raw though) and were far leaner then any American or European that tried to colonize them. so where i believe milk is for cows, everyone is soo different! its amazing how each body responds to things differently.


i wonder if dr. oz spoke of calcium for the SAD dieters.....it would be interesting know who he thought he was addressing in his statements

[CaliRaw]

Did he say calcium or milk?

think of all the calcium some one who eats raw food intakes through their greens, nuts, any magnesium they pick up along the way.....:D

on a side weird note, there is a tribe in Africa(or was) that survived mainly on cattle milk and cattle blood (raw though) and were far leaner then any American or European that tried to colonize them. so where i believe milk is for cows, everyone is soo different! its amazing how each body responds to things differently.


i wonder if dr. oz spoke of calcium for the SAD dieters.....it would be interesting know who he thought he was addressing in his statements


He said a high calcium. He didn't specifically advocate how someone colud get the calcium. For example, using milk, yogurt, cheese, veggies, etc. He did say that magnesium is needed as well. I am surprised that he didn't mention that if someone is supplementing,they shouldn't take more than 500 mg at a time because the body can't absorb more than that at one time. I think it's 500, but it may be 600. I can't remember.

[currious]

ahhh, thank you!

[TheAvocadess]

See the studies at www.notmilk.com, also Dr. Oz needs to read The China Study by T. Colin Powell which states that it's a fact that the highest dairy consuming countries have the highest rates of reproductive cancers.

Also, it's impossible for a human to get any calcium from milk from another species. Cows milk is for calves.

He also needs to study the incredible amounts of calcium in leafy green vegetables.

I'm actually shocked that Oz would make such a statement. I wonder if someone from the dairy industry paid him to make such a statement. If you really want to hear a rant, check out Dr. John McDougall's site www.drmcdougall.com. Animal products cause cancer and heart disease (death) in humans.

Funny that was on Oprah ,because she won her case against the beef industry when they tried to sue her.

Be the hairless monkey you are and eat raw vegan living foods!

Love,
The Avocadess

[Allie]

if anyone is interested the segment that dr oz talked about on oprah today(the study with the 10 people on raw food), is being discussed in further depth on the discovery health channel now (8pm est) .

[lukster9]

I think he said 1200 mg calcium, but you have to take it with magnesium

[CaliRaw]

See the studies at www.notmilk.com, also Dr. Oz needs to read The China Study by T. Colin Powell which states that it's a fact that the highest dairy consuming countries have the highest rates of reproductive cancers.

Also, it's impossible for a human to get any calcium from milk from another species. Cows milk is for calves.

He also needs to study the incredible amounts of calcium in leafy green vegetables.

I'm actually shocked that Oz would make such a statement. I wonder if someone from the dairy industry paid him to make such a statement. If you really want to hear a rant, check out Dr. John McDougall's site www.drmcdougall.com. Animal products cause cancer and heart disease (death) in humans.

Funny that was on Oprah ,because she won her case against the beef industry when they tried to sue her.

Be the hairless monkey you are and eat raw vegan living foods!

Love,
The Avocadess

If he said high DAIRY, I certainly did not hear it. I hear him say high CALCIUM and he did not advocate getting it specifically from dairy.

[RawkStar]

See the studies at www.notmilk.com, also Dr. Oz needs to read The China Study by T. Colin Powell which states that it's a fact that the highest dairy consuming countries have the highest rates of reproductive cancers.

Also, it's impossible for a human to get any calcium from milk from another species. Cows milk is for calves.

He also needs to study the incredible amounts of calcium in leafy green vegetables.

I'm actually shocked that Oz would make such a statement. I wonder if someone from the dairy industry paid him to make such a statement. If you really want to hear a rant, check out Dr. John McDougall's site www.drmcdougall.com. Animal products cause cancer and heart disease (death) in humans.

Funny that was on Oprah ,because she won her case against the beef industry when they tried to sue her.

Be the hairless monkey you are and eat raw vegan living foods!

Love,
The Avocadess

He would have to do all that, if he actually suggested one consume dairy. Like mentioned by the previous posters, he stated to consume a diet high in calcium. Greens are the best source of calcium, and I've heard him say this on other shows, repeatedly. I doubt very much anyone from the dairy council paid him.

[trinity082482]

I have seen that everywhere... "eat dairy and loose weight"
If I ate dairy three times a day like they tell us, I would for sure gain it.

The only way I could see it working is if your calorie intake daily is over 3000 cals and you choose a cup of yogurt instead of a Big mac meal.. ya for sure that would help.

Dairy never did agree with me. I'm glad I no longer have it.

[rawmorenmore]

Someone gave me his diet book which I flipped through before I returned... He also prefers splenda to stevia...

[snowdrop]

i watched the show & he pointed out the alternate sources of calcium and did say the majority of americans do not eat enough greens to satisfy the need. i did not feel he was pushing dairy, just acknowledging that people don't eat as they ought. he also highlighted:

"In another experiment, nine people reported to the Paignton Zoo in Devon, England, ready to go ape.

All nine people had high blood pressure—which Dr. Oz says can strip a decade off your life span—from years of eating unhealthy foods.

For the next 12 days, they lived in the zoo and kept to an "evolutionary" new diet—the zookeeper fed them a diet reminiscent of an ape's. To get the calories they needed, each volunteer had to eat 11 pounds of raw fruits, vegetables and nuts every single day.

Can a human possibly lose weight eating 11 pounds of food a day?
These volunteers ate a lot of food—as much as what is sitting in front of Oprah and Dr. Oz. Yet after 12 days, their cholesterol dropped by an average of 25 percent, their blood pressure dropped by 10 percent, and they lost about 10 pounds each—including two-and-a-quarter inches of their waists. "The results were … remarkable," Dr. Oz says.

"When you eat this kind of food, you're sending a very clear message to your brain," Dr. Oz says. "You're taking calories and nutrients. What we normally do in America is we give calories to people without nutrition. … The natural colors are gone, and so your brain sits back there and says, 'Am I still hungry or not?'"

people will hear what they want to, and go on eating what they please...
it highly pleases me to eat raw and benefit. :D

[Nani]

I just watched Dr. Oz today on the Oprah show and am now watching his show on DHC. He DID happen to mention other calciaum sources instead of dairy. At first I thought he was saying higher "dairy"....but he actually said higher calcium and then mentioned dark leafy greens such as Kale etc...From my point of view, he did NOT sound overly "pro-dairy". And I would hope that he wouldnt have to "be paid" by the dairy producers just to make a quick buck. He has more common sense than that. ;)

I love Dr. Oz.....and am so happy and excited that he is promoting a raw vegan healthy lifestyle. Yea!!!

So far....the show is great! I am lovin' the group of people who lived in the zoo eating nothing but raw foods. lol. The results are of course amazing and fantastic! :D

okay...'nough chattin'...Im going back to watch the program...woo :D

*Shauna*

[tinystrawberry]

Lurkster - what did he say about the seizures and passing out|? i experience the same things, do you think raw helps you?

[honey_bee]

I don't always agree with him, but I heart Dr.Oz :)

[mel_s12]

He may have said 'high calcium' rather than high dairy, but the study showed a guy eating a quart of yogurt every day, plus cheese and milk and whatnot. From a SAD point of view, it would seem as though that's what you gotta eat for calcium. On the Oprah show I don't remember him saying anything about greens. I wish I had seen him on the Discovery Channel tonight. I missed it.

[Firicia]

While I do respect being frustraited that what he says isnt always in favor of being raw, I did see him talk about why to eat raw nuts and how cooking them is bad. So we could chose to look at the things he says we think are wrong or we could focus as see what he says we think is right. I just this a positive thought goes way further then focusing on the negative. Just a thought:)

[garden granny]

I like Dr. Oz, and he DID say you can get calcium from leafy greens. I was so glad he said that cause I don't think alot of people know that, & now they do.

[mel_s12]

I know. I posted the first post of this thread about 3 minutes into the Oprah show when I had never even seen or heard of him before. I thought he was just another one of those doctors. You know? But then I was actually pretty impressed with most of what he said.
Sorry if I offended any Dr. Oz fans.

[Raw Mom]

I watched it last night. I love the evolutionary diet. I hate that this all happened in the UK. What's up with us here in the US???? I love Dr OZ. I believe he's leary of saying the word "raw". Many people are. The men and women were put in a very stressful situation, but managed very well. They had to use the bathrooms/camping facilities at the zoo. Do you remember the first couple weeks raw? I would want nice facilities. Other parts of the show were: raw garlic helping with erectile disfunction(sp?). How ED is an indicator of future heart attacks. Also, two long haul truckers with constipation problems, took a pill and tracked their digestion. One trucker took 24 hours to expell the pill, the other 48! After high fiber diet(not completely raw, but lots of fruit and nuts), they did it again. Both expelled the pill in about 12 hours. There was a ton of great information for newbies who know nothing about their digestion. I taped it and will be showing it at my yoga studio. Funniest part was, the info for this show said it was a show on how to get your children to eat better. When I tuned in, I was pleasantly surprised. Hoping it's on discoverychannel.com soon too.

[deberaw]

I did write into the Oprah show recently to the section about "Ask Dr. Oz" and I asked his opinion on RAW and suggested Oprah have Alissa on her show!!! Maybe if more write in, the producers will pick it up!!! I just looked up Oprah on the net..............!!!!!! Deb in Michigan!:)

[solarliving]

I've seen Dr. Oz on Oprah many times and it does seem he is trying to educate people to eat food more in it's natural state. I would love to see a true Raw Foodist on there. Think of the possibilities if it was on Oprah. The world might wake-up. :D

Anyone know where I can see this episode of people living in the zoo?

[currious]

This is all so intresting, but I do have a question, please don't hate me lol






who




is







dr. oz??



i have no idea! hahhaaha i feel so silly.....

[Douglas]

I bet the Dairy People gave him Millions to say that on there. It just is not true. Plus all the other bad things in milk too. Hormones, anti-biotics puss blood bovine growth hormonies. I sure don't want all that junk In my body. No way no how. Give me my Green Smoothies. Doug in Calif.......:eek: :eek: :eek:

[CaliRaw]

I did write into the Oprah show recently to the section about "Ask Dr. Oz" and I asked his opinion on RAW and suggested Oprah have Alissa on her show!!! Maybe if more write in, the producers will pick it up!!! I just looked up Oprah on the net..............!!!!!! Deb in Michigan!:)

Good idea! I'll write too. Also, we could mention that Alissa was on The Tyra Banks Show. I remember Tyra mentioning on Oprah that she got advice from Oprah about her talk show.

[dreamrawalwz]

I did write into the Oprah show recently to the section about "Ask Dr. Oz" and I asked his opinion on RAW and suggested Oprah have Alissa on her show!!! Maybe if more write in, the producers will pick it up!!! I just looked up Oprah on the net..............!!!!!! Deb in Michigan!:)

Maybe the cooked food industry (lol) will threaten to sue her like the meat industry did ;)

[RawkStar]

Careful about writing into the O show. I manage a birthmark group and one of our well meaning members started a email campaign for Oprah to do a show on birthmarks and children. Well, she was able to drum up phenomenal response and the "powers at be" at Oprah were not happy when their emails were flooded with requests for a show on "X" topic. In fact, they contacted us and threatened to report our support group as a spam generator. In case you don't know, that can shut down a website permanently. We were able to calm them down and explain that our member was not trying send spam. In the end, well over 1000 grouped, unsolicited emails practically ensured O will never do a topic on birthmarks! :rolleyes:

[rawsurfer]

Revvell,

what do you mean?:confused:

it seemed to me that revvell was being sarcastic (although please correct me if im wrong revvell. i dont like to put words in others orifices). it seemed to me that she was saying (again, dont know for sure, but i agree if she was saying it, and this is my opinion if she wasnt) that if you are eating all these wonderfully nutrient rich raw foods, a SAD eater would need a ridiculously larger amount of said nutrients.

i felt it was also implied, and if it wasnt it is my opinion, that you are wasting your money with all that stuff because most of it isnt going to be absorbed unless its in its organic state (ie in raw fruits and veggies).

eat fresh homemade sprouts and skip the supplements. you will save money and achieve more radiant health. and who knows, maybe eating all that sunfood will curb your aversion to the egg yolk in the sky (raw, of course:D )

[firefaery]

See the studies at www.notmilk.com, also Dr. Oz needs to read The China Study by T. Colin Powell which states that it's a fact that the highest dairy consuming countries have the highest rates of reproductive cancers.

Also, it's impossible for a human to get any calcium from milk from another species. Cows milk is for calves.

He also needs to study the incredible amounts of calcium in leafy green vegetables.

I'm actually shocked that Oz would make such a statement. I wonder if someone from the dairy industry paid him to make such a statement. If you really want to hear a rant, check out Dr. John McDougall's site www.drmcdougall.com. Animal products cause cancer and heart disease (death) in humans.

Funny that was on Oprah ,because she won her case against the beef industry when they tried to sue her.

Be the hairless monkey you are and eat raw vegan living foods!

Love,
The Avocadess


Dr. Oz advocates a veg diet, and was a big proponent of Eat to Live-he's even quoted on the cover and has mentioned it in several interviews. It's a vegan nutrition book that advocates high raw. Why all the negativity? He's a great guy.

[dreamrawalwz]

I think the goal he is trying to acheive is to have the SAD public eat a not so SAD diet. If society as a whole can go from pizza, McD's and coke to whole grains, milk, steamed veggies, and lean meats, then so be it. That's SO much better. Yea we know milk and animal products are not good, but he is working with what will be responded to at the moment and what people can change to. If he said that a raw vegan diet was the way to go, many people would just shut him off and say "that's crazy! I can't do that!!" and not even TRY to change. Baby steps!

[Amethyst]

Dr. Oz is my cardiologyst. I went to see him for MVP and seizers and passing out. He told me RAW is great as long as I feel good and take supplements. on his website he has a list of the supplements you should take daily.


Can't say I'm in agreement with the need to take supplements. My nutrients comes from the plants I consume and from the sun, not from a bottle.

;-)

[luckitri]

Some of us need to correct deficiencies from long term SAD and other bad habits so we need more nutrition than RAW can give us.

I am getting so much conflicting information. Most of the vitamins in the HFS are made from ingredients from China and they do not absorb - is one I learned recently. Calcium and magnesium may be in leafy greens together but if taken in pill form they must be taken separately as they will interfere with each other's absorption. Even a highly green raw diet (I even bm green) will not give me the calcium or magnesium that I need. Spinach has oxalic acid and phyt something that inhibits the absorption of the magnesium or calcium. Oh God I am overwhelmed and my conclusion is:

If God put magnesium and calcium together in the spinach and it tastes good to me then I have to trust that it will be nutritionally good for me.

And if anyone has any other ideas - come on - lets hear em!

[domestic goddess]

Just a note about Vit D...I have to take a supplement and I am outside in the sun all.the.time. For some reason, I (and my 3 kids)am very defficient in Vit D (and A) due to some sort of immune difficiency (what exactly, has not yet been determined) There is no food source that can boost your vitamin D levels and the sun was not cutting it for me.

[luckitri]

Canada has given vitamin D to all its citizens as they now recognize the health risk and due to their latitude it is hard for people to get it.

I was severely deficient a few months ago and was supplementing but have been going out in the sun - after reading your post I think I will supplement again to be safe.

[firefaery]

I think this is such an important point that I always hesitate to mention on this board. Our environment has changed. While our bodies are meant to use sunlight to convert cholesterol to vitamin D (actually a hormone, not a vitamin) this can only happen with specific rays that we aren't really exposed to anymore-mostly because of the damage to the ozone layer. I personally believe that it is essential to supplement. In a perfect world-no. But times have changed. Just like the hybridization of fruit has changed the nutritional profile so that it takes far more to meet our needs, so too has our world changed. I am not a fan of supplementation, but my kids do take supplemental D.

To me health is the biggest issue. I love eating raw. I do however have to conceded that in todays times we may need to take a closer look at things. Where we could have lived raw with no issues years ago we aren't always so lucky now. I am pretty hardcore about diet, but not to the exclusion of acknowledging certain truths. If my kids aren't getting vitamin D naturally I am not going to let their teeth and bones pay the price.

I think it's also important to note (for clarity's sake) that there is no VEGAN food which can raise vitamin D levels-there are plenty animal foods that can.

[domestic goddess]

Thank you fire faery...I should have specified there was no vegan food. :D

[Radiantly Raw]

I recorded the Dr. Oz segment on Oprah and watched it twice. When he spoke about the folks who ate 11 pounds of raw foods for 10 days he said that the participants cholesterol dropped as well as their high blood pressure. Then he said that frustrates some people in the medical field because we have the ability to change these conditions ourselves. And that the results were better than prescriptions can offer. So, he did point out that foods can be healing, and he was speaking about the raw foods at that time.

I remember last year when he was on her show & told everyone that roasting nuts makes them unhealthy. That was when I had just started learning about the raw food lifestyle. I thought it was great to hear it from him. A while ago, when talking about his diet book, he said he suggests agave nectar as a sweetener if you must have one.

[menat]

I think the goal he is trying to acheive is to have the SAD public eat a not so SAD diet. If society as a whole can go from pizza, McD's and coke to whole grains, milk, steamed veggies, and lean meats, then so be it. That's SO much better. Yea we know milk and animal products are not good, but he is working with what will be responded to at the moment and what people can change to. If he said that a raw vegan diet was the way to go, many people would just shut him off and say "that's crazy! I can't do that!!" and not even TRY to change. Baby steps!

I agree, because in reality, you can put a raw foodist on Oprah and many people will just go "Ugh. That's nasty. I can't eat greasy fried chicken no more! No way, I am trying that!!!!"

Dr. Oz is working with what he got and he knows what kind of audience he has...people who really don't want to change their diet and they are half-assed interested in improving their health only because their doctors asked them to. Not because they want to do so on their own.

I think most raw foodist chose this lifestyle because we are witness to seeing health problems that we don't want with ourselves or loved ones. We don't think that bad health is worth eating for. But most of Americans do. They rather have a blood clot and a stroke rather than get rid of their SAD diet.

[Riiiya]

I personally believe that it is essential to supplement. In a perfect world-no. But times have changed. Just like the hybridization of fruit has changed the nutritional profile so that it takes far more to meet our needs, so too has our world changed.

I was going to make that point too- times have changed. And what about the quality of the soil? The food that would normally support all our needs has now lesser value, i believe supplementation is sometimes essential then

[faith4u]

So, what would one have to take if they eat cooked food?

No kidding!:)

[Vegan Princess]

I happened upon his shows on discovery health this morning and was happy to get to see the bit about the evolution diet. In another show he showed that by drinking raw fruit and veggie smoothies 2x per day, men can increase their sperm county, motility and the quality of their sperm. A couple that tried for 3 years with no luck was able to conceive after doing this. His sperm count doubled.

I agree - I think Dr. Oz appeals to the masses. I know my mom takes what he says to heart and makes the small changes, even though 100% raw is tough for her. I must say though, when she ate raw her high blood pressure disappeared and her doctor encouraged her to stick with eating raw.

Cindy