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mel_s12
09-06-2007, 11:46 AM
For those of you that have not read my previous threads, here is a short summary. I am not 100% raw due to my boyfriend and my job. My boyfriend is a meat eater, claims he needs it, and claims he could not live off of raw. It really hit him hard when I stopped cooking. It was really causing a lot of little arguments even though he saw all the positive changes in me. A few weeks ago, I decided to start cooking for him again because if I didn't cook, all he would eat is SAD pizza and cranberry/white chocolate scones from the grocery store. So, I started cooking somewhat healthy SAD food for him. (oxymoron, I know). But I figure beans and rice are healthier than pizza and scones. So anyways, I started eating this cooked food with him to make him happy. WELL.. my rash is coming back, my acne is coming back, I feel like crap, etc. Today my boyfriend realized it when he saw the rash on my elbows. He said 'Mel, you know, you don't have to eat normal food to make me happy. Your rash is coming back, and I dont want you to be unhappy because of me.' It was pretty sweet. I'm a little worried that he is only being sweet today and will be upset again tomorrow when I don't eat with him.
So yeah, this is a little exciting for me, because it's one step closer to being 100%. I still have to figure how to be raw at work (on-call flight attendant).
But yeah, 100% -> here I come!
Green Life
09-06-2007, 11:49 AM
This is just part of the raw journey.
Learn to just go with the flow, and not to worry 'bout it.
You do what's best for you and your health.
It's so difficult when you are living with a SAD eater, I know.
Just have 'ta be extra strong willed and not give into taking a nibble of this and a taste of that when cooking.
Belive me, I know. It is VERY difficult somettimes.
Veganforlife
09-06-2007, 11:57 AM
I guess that's why I have two dogs and no s.o. Don't need that in my life.
There's no happy compromise in your relationship? You have to lessen your health because of him? He won't try eating raw with you and see how you feel?
I'd ask for a 30-day 100% raw challenge...would he do that with you?
sbaker
09-06-2007, 12:00 PM
i struggled with this a bit at first, not that my man cared, he didn't at all... but it was hard to sit down and make/eat a salad while he ate all sorts of yummy things in front of me, half the time things i made. i managed most of the time, but now im pregnant and pay dearly if i stray from the raw path...i ate an english muffin with peanut butter 2 days ago and im just now getting rid of the heartburn...so its become fairly easy to sit down and eat my nori rolls while he pounds down the pasta and cheese:)
Green Life
09-06-2007, 12:04 PM
It's probably (speaking from experiance, here) because when you get two people with differnt tastes trying to be together, there will always be challenges in the relationship because everyone is differnt.
Marriage is hard work, but it's worth it to work out the differences to grow stronger. I would say just try to do your best because in life the only ones we can change is ourselves. If he doesn't like it, booth'em out!! I wouldnt tolerate for one minute a man telling me what to eat, ect. My DH has NEVER done that.
Sounds like he supports you. So does my DH, entirely. HOWEVER there are temptations at every turn....it's just called life.
Conscious Midwife
09-06-2007, 12:56 PM
:eek: :eek: I'm always blown away by the fact that "GIRLFRIENDS" feel and/or are obligated to do anything for their "BOYFRIEND".:) :D
I understand that we often yield and give in the name of peace and love. But since when does ones dietary intake choices have to become the shopping, cooking, prepping and dining duty of another?
Hungry people eat and cook/uncook what's available. RIGHT?!??!?!
And MEN don't start arguements when hungry. REAL MEN COOK/UNCOOK when hunger calls.
Don't applaud your boyfriends "step" towards understanding unless of course your are trying to set the stage for a pattern that you will regret later should the two of you decide to make a lifetime commitment.
Who cares if he's eating pizza or beans, the biger question is:
Why is his happiness more worthwhile and only obtained at the expense of your health and happiness??????
SharonC
09-06-2007, 01:09 PM
My husband has eaten more and more raw over the past few years without even realizing it! I just incorporated more raw slowly. He has fussed about a few things along the way, and then they become 'normal' to him, and he eventually becomes fine with it. I think the green smoothies helped a lot. As vegan for life says, they do help with cravings, and they also make you crave more good food, especially more green smoothies! He really has become addicted to the green smoothies.
It will probably take time for him, but it is great that he sees how raw food has helped you - you may be surprised how much he comes around over time. Just keep on trying, and it will get easier and easier. I will never forget when I stopped buying my husband deli meat at Whole Foods - this was years ago. He asked for weeks about it - they were renovating the store, so I told him the first few weeks that the deli was under construction, and then I forgot because it was in a different part of the store, etc.
When making a big salad for dinner, I used to either boil him eggs for the salad, or have raw cheese for him. But, since I have been making more raw dishes in the dehydrator, he is not needing even those as much. Tonight I am making portabella mushroom pizzas in the dehydrator - portabella is very meaty and filling. Can also make fajitas with portabella in the dehydrator - most men love those.
My Dad was impressed with the walnut taco 'meat'. I made a big taco salad with it and topped with tomatoes, onions, avocados, and a nut cheese sauce with jalapeno and salsa. Can also make corn tortillas to go with this. Or, if trying to transition someone without shocking them too much, could use corn chips or corn tortillas/taco shells from the health food store - warming them up a little would make it even better.
Like you said, the beans are better than the pizza. When my husband wants beans, I make coleslaw to go with it. He eats more coleslaw than beans.
He has accepted that the only meat in our house is for the dogs, except for a few grass fed steaks in the freezer that I get for him when I order for the dogs. They are for very special occasions. He does eat fish sometimes out for lunch and sometimes meat takeout from Whole Foods, but I have noticed that his desire for it is less and less overtime. I guess what I am trying to say is to have hope that it will get better down the road!
GlimR
09-06-2007, 02:55 PM
lifeAgift......you sure hit that nail on the head!!!:)
YOU decide the roles you will each play in your relationship. It is not HIS responsibility to faciliate what you eat and it is not yours to make sure he eats "healthy". He is a grown man and can decide for himself what to eat or not eat for himself. I love my husband dearly but I am NOT his mother and have no desire to be.
I cook SAD food for my husband because that is on eof the roles I assume willingly but I make him food that doesn't trigger me and I do not eat it to make him feel better. Because ultimatly if I am doing something contrary to what I know is right for mE it does not help him OR our relationship in the long run and he knows it.
Work is another story...but home is suppossed to be your santuary where you nurture and take care of yourself. If you really want to eat raw you will, it is as simple as that.
mulch
09-06-2007, 03:03 PM
I totally agree with the previous poster. My husband complains that he is raw now since I have been buying a lot more fruits and vegetables. I started increasing them in our diet for the last couple of months and then started the real deal a little over a week ago. Initially, I just bought more of the usual fruits and vegetables. Then I progressed to making smoothies for him and substituting soymilk for milk(mooo).
Initially he was complaining about running out of moomilk but I kept forgetting and he refuses to go to the grocery store so soymilk it is. I have since started drinking homemade almond milk so we no longer have to battle about running out of milk in the mornings.
I make his lunches for work but when we rarely go to the grocery store together he buys frozen meals with meat.
The really bad ones like marie callenders and stouffers.
Today I made him a lunch that included a soymeat, romaine and cheese (using it up and then bye bye cheese) sandwich, strawberries, plum, celery with almond butter and raisins on it, and graham crackers. I figure making his lunch will make him choose healthier choices. The money we save counteracts the money I have spent on raw accessories and raw food.
I think your SO will come around slowly. I do think that you should not look to him for change. I think it puts on a lot of unecessary pressure on a relationship, especially a boyfriend/girlfriend one. Spend your energies becoming a stronger raw foodist and less on converting him. SAD addiction is an extremely strong addiction. A few weeks of healthy food may not "convert" him. Have patience and focus on the strong parts of your relationship and lead by example. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
Anastasia Alston
09-06-2007, 03:16 PM
I'm always blown away by the fact that "GIRLFRIENDS" feel and/or are obligated to do anything for their "BOYFRIEND".
I understand that we often yield and give in the name of peace and love. But since when does ones dietary intake choices have to become the shopping, cooking, prepping and dining duty of another?
Hungry people eat and cook/uncook what's available. RIGHT?!??!?!
And MEN don't start arguements when hungry. REAL MEN COOK/UNCOOK when hunger calls.
Who cares if he's eating pizza or beans, the biger question is Why is his happiness more worthwhile and only obtained at the expense of your health and happiness??????
I am right there with you on this one!!! When I went raw, I WENT RAW & the rest of my family, husband included, did not. There was lots of complaining & grumbling because I refused to cook anything anymore for anyone. I was serious, fielded the negative comments (ever notice how you're always the one to "start" arguments when someone with a chip on their shoulder makes a direct, nasty comment to you?) for 3 weeks & had no intention of changing my mind just to "keep the peace" - if they wanted peace, they would have to learn to get it on their own. I had made my decision.
In the weeks since, they have adjusted. I am no longer the "cause" of arguments (funny 'bout that one - my behavior hasn't changed any! :D ) & now everyone gets all wilty if I neglect to make green smoothies first thing! I even made the entire supper a few nights ago & all plates were cleaned. No complaints, no "suggestions" that I cook something.
Occasionally I have to remind my husband that I don't cook, but it's not really a big deal. If he wants a cooked meal, he makes it himself.
If raw is your choice for yourself, then stand your ground no matter what. If he eats pizza, THAT'S HIS BUSINESS. You are only responsible for you (& your baby); he's a big boy. HE is responsible for his own health no matter how much you love him.
Hope I don't come off as too harsh, but having lived with a person skilled in subtle manipulation for 15 years, things like this tend to get my back up really quickly. ;)
Stasi
mel_s12
09-06-2007, 03:32 PM
Thanks for all the replies and the advice.
I agree that I am my own person and responsible for myself.
My SO has definitely become 'more raw.' He does enjoy the green smoothies and eats whatever I set in front of him. It's my dream to open a raw restaurant so he has been my taste tester. He's been supportive in that way.
I do not want to stop cooking for him since he will most likely eat something crappy if I don't. So with that said, that is my choice, so I will have to deal with the consequences of possible triggers.
As for getting him to do the 30 day challenge. He lasted 4 hours. :rolleyes:
So yeah, I'm going to slowly incorporate more and more raw into his diet.
Thanks a lot everyone!
MUAH!
mulch
09-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Good for you
juliebove
09-07-2007, 12:54 AM
I am not 100% raw. That's not really a choice in my case. I have a medical condition that at times prevents me from eating much beyond a few very easy to digest things that are not necessarily raw. I just figure my diet is my diet. It's unique to me and I have to do the best I can with it.
My husband is a huge meat eater. Prefers to eat certain things I consider to be junk and in fact demands that such things be brought into the house. Oh fine. I buy these things for him when he tells me to buy them. And he has to tell me to buy them or I won't. :D
Daughter eats some raw foods, but she has a lot of food allergies. So really we each all pretty much have our own diets, although daughter and I tend to eat pretty much the same things with the exception of her school lunches. She is one of those who wants to eat the same stuff that the other kids are eating. Kind of hard given her many allergies, but I do the best I can to give her something that at least *looks* like what the other kids are eating. She loves pre-packaged things. Is particularly fond of some little packs of raw veggies that come with a dip she can't eat. I buy them for her and cut out the section with the dip in it.
There are a few meals I make that all three of us can/will eat. But for the most part it is two or three separate meals.
Most of the time we do not eat together. Daughter and I do, but husband is in the military and does not necessarily keep set hours. We never know when he will be home so I just do not plan to have him eat with us. I guess that makes it easier in a way.
I do try to cook a meal for him once or twice a week at least. Now the food might be precooked and in the fridge by the time he gets home. But at least it's there.
But most of the time he gets something that is already made up and ready to eat. It might be a meal made by the local grocery store. Might be some sort of heat and eat (or eat cold), meat that he can eat along with a salad. Might be a sandwich. Once in a blue moon I will order out for pizza for him.
He does complain sometimes. But his complaints to me seem unfounded and he doesn't seem to understand. He has no clue why my daughter and I eat the way we do. In fact I turned to this diet because of our food allergies (and other medical problems). He will say to me stuff like, "Oh I see. You and our daughter get GOOD food and I get CRAP!" Of course to me, what he is eating is crap. But... It's also his choice to eat that *kind* of food. He will not eat the same food that we eat. Gets upset when presented with a big salad or a fruit plate for dinner and nothing else. So he rather puts me in a bind. I do the best I can do to recreate the types of foods he ate before by buying prepared foods.
He doesn't take the time to see what my daughter and I are eating. He just knows that our food is different than his and must somehow be better. We often get salad from the salad bar at the local market. That's what we eat for dinner. When I tried getting him a salad too, he shrieked about it. He didn't WANT salad!
When I do find a food that he likes, I will try to buy more of it. But those foods are few and far between. I think in my husband's case, he is just cranky and crabby and hard to please. The other day I bought a box of those 100 calorie packs of cookies. He seems to think this is a good thing. 100 calories? What could be better? So he proceeded to eat 9 packs in one sitting. This was after dinner. That's 900 calories right there in a snack. And probably not one redeeming quality to any of those bites that he ate. But try to tell him that! He won't listen.
I just try to do the best to provide him with what he wants. I figure it's his body. It's his life. I am not responsible for his diet. Whatever he chooses that to be.
juliebove
09-07-2007, 01:05 AM
:eek: :eek: I'm always blown away by the fact that "GIRLFRIENDS" feel and/or are obligated to do anything for their "BOYFRIEND".:) :D
I understand that we often yield and give in the name of peace and love. But since when does ones dietary intake choices have to become the shopping, cooking, prepping and dining duty of another?
Hungry people eat and cook/uncook what's available. RIGHT?!??!?!
And MEN don't start arguements when hungry. REAL MEN COOK/UNCOOK when hunger calls.
Don't applaud your boyfriends "step" towards understanding unless of course your are trying to set the stage for a pattern that you will regret later should the two of you decide to make a lifetime commitment.
Who cares if he's eating pizza or beans, the biger question is:
Why is his happiness more worthwhile and only obtained at the expense of your health and happiness??????
I'm with you!
I do not understand my husband in that he puts me in charge of his food. He attempts to put me in charge of other things in his life but I just won't do it. I agreed to provide the food and I do it. But I don't understand why he would want it that way. I certainly wouldn't.
However... In my case, although I am technically in charge of buying and/or preparing said food, he prefers it to be of his choice. If I ask him what he wants, he will repsond with "whatever". Yet if I give him whatever, he will complain about it. He wants specific things, but he won't tell me what those things are. It's like a little game with him. And an annoying one.
No biggie in my life really. Just one aspect of it. I am just glad I can buy and prepare my own food. There was a time this wasn't so. I was very sick for a period of several weeks. Unable to walk and could barely stand. I had to send him to the store for me. He refused to buy any more than the 12 items that entitled him to get in the Express Lane. And I never know what I might get. I'd write out a list but what he brought back might or might not be what was on it. Back in those days I was eating salad for dinner and usually what he would bring me was something that could be put in a salad. Lunch and dinner were more difficult.
I bought myself a bar stool so I could hoist myself up there and prep my veggies. There was no way I was going to let him do it. He and I have different standards when it comes to how food should be prepared.
finallyfree
09-07-2007, 01:24 AM
Hi Mel,
Its one of your Canadian buddies from class in Maine (not Andrea). Just wanted to say hi to you and its neat to see you on this forum.
I am sorry you are struggling, I know how hard it is to want to be 100% raw so badly but to have obstacles standing in your way. I am at this place myself, but I REFUSE to give up. I know I just have to find what works for me and I know you will too.
I bet you are so excited to go back to Vancouver. I know that's where your heart is...and I know that if you ever open a raw food restaurant there it will be very successful...
Can I ask you a few questions with regard to your boyfriend...
First let me just say that I understand you love him deeply and want him to be in the best of health and you want to do good by him, do nice things for him. I know you don't want him to choose junk, but let me ask you...if he was not dating you and was living on his own, who would cook for him? What kind of food would he choose? Who would be responsible for his food choices? Are you making yourself responsible for his food choices? Now I understand how sad, scared, upset it must make you to see what he chooses to eat, but really, is this not his choice? He is an adult who is responsible for nourishing his own body and if he chooses to take the easy way and eat out, its a choice he's making...I'm sure he didn't decide to date you just so you would cook for him or so he didn't have to.
Years ago it was viewed as the primary responsibility of the woman in the household to do the cooking, but that's not the case anymore and men are needing to take on this responsibility for themselves (rightly so).
Of course, it is completely your choice if you decide to cook for him - and if this remains the case, could you lessen the impact on yourself by cooking a few meals on one day of the week (a few large meals) and then freezing them...for him it would be then as easy as popping them in the microwave?
Just some thoughts.
Take care and I hope your move back to Vancouver goes smoothly.
M
GlimR
09-07-2007, 06:09 AM
One thing that really helped me is that I sat down with DH and we made a list together of easy foods I could make him that he really likes and that I never did like. At least this way he is getting food he prefers and I am not tempted by it...just one idea~
lore-ah
09-07-2007, 06:44 AM
I haven't had any trouble from my husband. My teenage son wouldn't notice if I started eating floor boards. The biggest source of grief has been my friends! When I won't go drink or have crappy bar food with them, they make fun of me and are really condescending. "Oh we'll see how long this lasts". When I ordered my lunch (a damn salad without croutons or cheese, I fail to see the humor here), it was a five minute ordeal with laughing and eye rolling.
:mad: maybe they can complain some more about the weight they've gained. No I'm not bitter!
mel_s12
09-07-2007, 07:31 AM
Hi M!!!
How are you?? It's been forever! Fill in me in! :D
As for my boyfriend, before me he was living on his own at University. He lived off pizza pops and pasta with canned tomato sauce! He lost 30 pounds in the last 2 years of living with me. If I don't cook for him he goes back to his old way of cooking. I don't know if its on purpose to make me want to cook for him so he doesn't eat that crap, or thats all he knows how to cook! Blah! All I know is I want him to be healthy.
kyrie
09-07-2007, 02:54 PM
You're a better woman than me honey!! If I had a husband like yours I'd be divorcing his sorry ass, pronto. You must have a lot of patience.Over the years I've read some of your posts,and those of denise deland, and man I feel for you both. I put up with an idiot for 3 years, I can't imagine what it must be like to be married to someone so insensitive and painful to deal with. You've got a forgiving soul.
I'd have divorced him by now.
God bless you girl.
Carla.
isabelephant
09-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Uh...yeah...
I think there's a bigger problem lurking here than what you're eating...If I may be so bold as to say: DUMP HIM. There are greener pastures right over there---->
juliebove
09-07-2007, 05:27 PM
You're a better woman than me honey!! If I had a husband like yours I'd be divorcing his sorry ass, pronto. You must have a lot of patience.Over the years I've read some of your posts,and those of denise deland, and man I feel for you both. I put up with an idiot for 3 years, I can't imagine what it must be like to be married to someone so insensitive and painful to deal with. You've got a forgiving soul.
I'd have divorced him by now.
God bless you girl.
Carla.
Well, we do have a child so that complicates things.
barose
09-07-2007, 07:25 PM
. Then I progressed to making smoothies for him and substituting soymilk for milk(mooo).
Be careful with the soy. Me and my SO (him especially) gain weight (fat weight) and bloat up like a balloon on soy. Are nut milks an option?
mulch
09-07-2007, 08:08 PM
i didn't know that
i have noticed how light almond milk feels in my belly
than silk
thanks for the info
barose
09-07-2007, 08:24 PM
i didn't know that
i have noticed how light almond milk feels in my belly
than silk
thanks for the info
"Silk" is even worse. Its all full of refined sugar and crap. If your DH would rather have soy than almond (I know he wants mooo, but too bad :)) get a brand that is not sweetened with sugar or just unsweetened period.
Cherri Garcia
09-08-2007, 08:35 AM
lifeAgift......you sure hit that nail on the head!!!:)
YOU decide the roles you will each play in your relationship. It is not HIS responsibility to faciliate what you eat and it is not yours to make sure he eats "healthy". He is a grown man and can decide for himself what to eat or not eat for himself. I love my husband dearly but I am NOT his mother and have no desire to be.
I cook SAD food for my husband because that is on eof the roles I assume willingly but I make him food that doesn't trigger me and I do not eat it to make him feel better. Because ultimatly if I am doing something contrary to what I know is right for mE it does not help him OR our relationship in the long run and he knows it.
Work is another story...but home is suppossed to be your santuary where you nurture and take care of yourself. If you really want to eat raw you will, it is as simple as that.
I have to agree with this 100%! I cook SAD for my SO because that is one of the roles I ASSUME...
I may be old-fashioned, but one of the things I do as part of taking care of him is making food for him that he ENJOYS to eat. Just as he does things to take care of me and that make me happy, even if it's something he doesn't like or want to do.
Yes, it may be difficult to make "2" meals, but I handle this three ways.
First, I also make foods that don't "trigger" me... things that I could really care less about eating, but that I know he enjoys. For example, he can eat plain white or brown rice w/ almost anything (which I could care less about), so I make a lot of that with his meat dishes.
Second, I cook a lot of his meat dishes (which I at least try to keep low fat) in large batches and freeze to re-heat later. I know someone else mentioned this and that is a great idea! This way I don't have to cook SAD as often.
And third, I try to make extra of my raw food and make that his "healthy side dish". So really, he eats some raw food w/ me, but he has his food too. I make an extra large salad, lots of marinated veggies, or guac w/ flax chips, etc. Sharing foods definitely makes the meal so much more enjoyable.
Even though I can't imagine him ever going 100% raw, his diet has definitely improved since I have. And since he is so supportive of me, and just so wonderful in general, I do what it takes to keep him happy. I keep eating raw because that's what I TRULY WANT to do.
XOXO
Cherri
PS: Right on, GlimR!
trinity082482
09-08-2007, 10:28 AM
My spouse was like that sometimes.. to make separate meals or to eat alone is a huge problem for many people. I used to go through this with my spouse when I wanted to eat raw but he would say you dont want a pizza? I'm not eating dinner... because I wouldnt eat and it wasnt fair to him at the time but I stuck with it and he got used to my strange eating habits and now if i dont eat what I make him he doesnt care... I will eat my food and sit beside him.
KristensRaw
09-10-2007, 03:14 AM
Have you tried the Travel Blender? This could be useful for you. It's on Amazon for less than 50 bucks...Tribest Personal Blender - PB-100 Blending Package (with new S-Blade Assembly).
Then always make sure you have apples, citrus, prewashed bagged spinach at home and ready to grab, as well as a soft travel cooler that you can fold up after you've used it and packs easily into your carry on (if it's not in use).
Could you grab those kinds of produce items and throw them in the cooler with the blender and take that with you? Or, if you can't bring food to the plane, maybe use some produce that the airlines provide and make smoothies? The travel blender is AWESOME and so worth the price!!!
Other things that travel well are Raw cookies, granola and crackers. This way you have a treat with you for dessert and something crunchy like a cracker or raw granola. AND you can make nut milk with this great little blender so you have raw granola to eat with milk. Just bring a baggie of nuts or seeds, no need to strain, just make it easier and keep the pulp in and eat with your granola.
Take green powders with you if that's an easy way to get greens in your diet. Usually these mix easily with water. Just add a teaspoon to a bottle of water and shake it up and drink.
Just a few tips :) Hope they help! Cheers. For the boyfriend thing, well, I have lots of tips for that, too. I had a boyfriend who ate meat when he met me, but is now vegan and mostly Raw. Pop me an email and I'll give you some tips for that, too :)
Cheers!
meg.june
10-09-2007, 06:59 AM
Yesterday we went to Burger King... I snuck in the backdoor with a huge bowl of salad and my husband and son went up and ordered. We sat and ate together as if we were all having the same thing. It is hard to watch my kids eat "crap" because I want them to be healthy but I will just sneak raw to them here and there and add to it as we go...
meg.june
10-09-2007, 07:01 AM
My husband makes my raw food (he is much better at recipes) and I make his cooked food and we have the kids help out with washing veggies or just sitting with us chatting about school etc. Getting everyone involved is key I think...
meg.june
10-09-2007, 07:04 AM
Juliebove- well said, awesome post.
RawHeaven
10-09-2007, 12:40 PM
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RawHeaven
10-09-2007, 12:54 PM
Yesterday we went to Burger King... I snuck in the backdoor with a huge bowl of salad and my husband and son went up and ordered. We sat and ate together as if we were all having the same thing. It is hard to watch my kids eat "crap" because I want them to be healthy but I will just sneak raw to them here and there and add to it as we go...
I love it! I'll have to try this.
PomegranatePip
10-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Are 99.9% of raw foodists females? Are there any guys who have adopted this lifestyle by choice (and not because a woman in their life steered them toward it)? And, if so, are any of them cute and single? (Just kidding. Sort of.) :rolleyes:
I would be interested in knowing the statistics.
RawHeaven
10-09-2007, 10:07 PM
Great question, you should start a new thread with it maybe. I'm curious now too. However, I have to add I spent a summer in Olympia, WA 2 years ago and meant tons of Raw guys. They were cute too. Some were farmers - I think this is the new conscious dating trend - date an organic farmer. Come to think of it, this would be great huh?! You're already lucky see... you're right there in the Pacific NW. ~Peace.
dalimeindacoconut
10-10-2007, 01:11 AM
When you get older Mel people just accept who you are, what you eat, what you do, it's just the way it is. Your boyfriend sounds like he wants to support you the best way he knows how and you two will figure out how that will work. Just keep planting positive thoughts into his head like: 'don't you think a girl is so much sexier when she eats healthy'...etc. Also, when one is able to love oneself enough to make positive changes that is what they have to give to others. If someone is abusing themselves that is what they have to share with others. You just have more love to give now.
GreenPrince
10-10-2007, 06:14 AM
PomegranatePip,
"Are there any guys who have adopted this lifestyle by choice (and not because a woman in their life steered them toward it)?"
YES! :)
"And, if so, are any of them cute and single?"
(YES... ;) )
"I would be interested in knowing the statistics."
Don't be confused by the fact that there are more women into the Raw Food Movement. That's quite normal.
Women are more open to the new alternative or complimentary ideas, therapies and life stiles.
At least 80-90 % into these movements are women.
On the other hand, in the other end of the continuum, we have the Skeptic movement CSI (former CSICOP)
with more than 90 % men desperately defending the old paradigms. They will lose ground, more and more.
In a deeper meaning, sort of a contest: Brain-Heart Coherence versus Brain.
rawbeliever
11-27-2007, 01:04 PM
My boyfriend cooks for himself. And we do sit down to eat together. He frequently eats crap that in my worst sad days I never considered, but his body and health are his responsibility. Although, I have an advantage in that I was raw when we met, and made that clear up front.
mel_s12
11-27-2007, 01:48 PM
It's interesting that this thread started to get active again.
I actually posted the original post a while ago. I am now 100% raw. It's been 3 weeks now and things are going great. My boyfriend has now accepted it, and if anything he is encouraging me since I am looking "HOT" now. haha.
I love raw food. It really makes people healthy.. and healthy = good looking too. It's great.
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