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elinka999
09-05-2007, 08:42 PM
Can I drink sake while on raw diet?

Livingsunfoods
09-05-2007, 08:59 PM
You can drink whatever you'd like but sake is not raw.:( If you would like to still consume alcohol organic wine is considered raw and(or a small vineyard that takes care of the land) would be a better choice.

Little Blueberry
09-05-2007, 09:59 PM
Interesting Livingsunfoods,

I am curious, why organic wine? I know of course that organic is better than not, but does that mean that all wine are only fermented? If so, Yeepii! I love a small glass of red wine with a delicious raw meal! Occasional and small amout of red wine is good for your heart too.

I know there are zillions of different types of sake but are there absolutely none of them that are not cooked? What a shame, it would go so well with my raw makis!

When I was a child, my mom used to make "de la Baboche" (French). Fermenting fruits in a huge glass jar that would turn to fruity alcohol over the course of a couple months. I remember because my brother accidentally drunk some of it one day thinking it was fruit punch with a zing and got drunk for the first time at 12 years old!:eek: hi hi!

RawCutter
09-05-2007, 10:13 PM
You can drink whatever you'd like but sake is not raw.:( If you would like to still consume alcohol organic wine is considered raw and(or a small vineyard that takes care of the land) would be a better choice.

why isn't sake raw?

Livingsunfoods
09-05-2007, 10:24 PM
Hey Little Blueberry. I'm no expert when it comes to defining the terms of what is fermented etc. in alcoholic beverages. From what I know, if you choose to drink, wine is the best option. Organic apparently has no added sulfites but all wine contains sulfites. Someone chime in here and correct me or explain this better please if you'd like. Also small wineries that are conscious of what they put out are good too even though they are not necessarily certified as organic it's just as good.

On a side note it's good to purchase a higher quality bottle of wine, there are still some wineries that use animal ingredients when bottling. Something about when they strain it??:confused: You should check out the search button too, there are plenty of threads on alcohol and raw food.

Livingsunfoods
09-05-2007, 10:40 PM
why isn't sake raw?

I thought it was heated before being fermented. Not totally sure. You may be right. From what I know certain ones are raw and others are not. Now I'm bowing myself out of this thread. :)

RawCutter
09-06-2007, 12:04 AM
I thought it was heated before being fermented. Not totally sure. You may be right. From what I know certain ones are raw and others are not. Now I'm bowing myself out of this thread. :)

some do have distilled spirits added which would not be raw. the only heat I could think of would be the polishing of the rice grains. I don't know what temp they reach during this process

Little Blueberry
09-07-2007, 06:22 PM
I have found out that sake is not raw! The process of making sake requires steaming and pasteurization. :rolleyes:

Here is a website that describes the basics steps of sake brewing process:
http://www.sake-world.com/html/brewing-process.html

Now, does anyone know about the process of making wine?

Eva
09-07-2007, 08:48 PM
I get some great wine from Trader Joe's sometimes that is organic with no sulfites (called Well Red... they have other organic wines, but that's the only one I've gotten there because it's the only one without sulfites.). If I understand correctly (which I may not), sometimes organic wine has sulfites, so it has to be both organic and sulfite free.

I have also gotten Frey's (sp?) and Our Daily Red from a local store, which were organic/no sulfites. I will have a glass then that's it and my husband will have a glass a few days in a row usually. He loves the stuff, says how great it is to know he won't get a headache from it.

With just one glass, I have not had the same ill effects whatsoever that I get from eating nonraw food on occasion.

SeaSprite
09-07-2007, 09:08 PM
In 'raw food real life' they say you can drink sake, but i think they have specialty sake that is raw, I don't remember, and I'm not home right now, I'll check what they say and check back in...

wine is raw, if the grapes were heated the wine would be ruined. You'll want to choose organic wine, conventional grapes are notoriously toxic. Also most wine isn't completely vegan, albumen, made from eggs, ew.. is used for fining. Some wines use clay, but they don't list ingredients so you don't know, unless it's marked 'vegan'. You can get organic vegan wine from theorganicwinecompany.com

Little Blueberry
09-08-2007, 10:19 PM
Thanks for your insights!

SeaSprite, please check in when you are back home and have a chance about sake, I am curious. That's fun that you are away and checking in the forum! ;)

So the process of making wine is essentially raw, the only problem is that nowadays they most oftentimes include sulfites to preserve the color as well as other unecessary ingredients to "better" the product. So if one wants to drink raw wine, one most look for one that is "organic, vegan and sulfite free!"
...or make your own! :p

Lady Green Jeans
09-08-2007, 10:46 PM
Sulfites are a natural occurance during the winemaking process. Don't believe there are any wines that can be "sulfite-free." Organic wines have definately improved over the last ten years--not so jammy tasting.