Day 1...I feel like crap!

[LaTisha07]

I guess I'm detoxing. I've done fasts before and don't remember feeling quite this bad but I wasn't working than either and could lay down whenever I felt like it. I am soooo tired! And I have a headache, I have nausea. I was dozing at work at the computer which isn't good since I've only been there 1 week. Too soon to be falling alseep! lol Is this a good sign and when should I expect it to pass? I ate raw for the most part yesterday (but ate sushi last night) so thats why today is day 1 of my 30 day committment.

[Green Life]

Hello! I am on my second week of 100 pecent raw.I have been SO tired the last 3 days, and had nausea and a headache today. So glad you posted your question because I was wondering the same thing!

I am hoping it's detox. I have slept most of it off for now but I have a feeling it's not over yet.

Best wishes on your raw journey!

[DavidZaneMason]

Opinion:

One CAN and SHOULD regulate one's own detox by eating heavier raw foods......and lighter transitional foods......to slow down detox (things like avocados, nuts, root vegetables, etc.). Mono-eat....fast.....juice fasting.....sunlight....exercise......light fruit eating....will all accelerate detox reactions.

-Detox should stretch your abilities.....not be acute/painful/debilitating. If it is, you are changing too fast. With a lifetime commitment - what's the hurry?

-David Z. Mason

[LaTisha07]

Ok, so I should lay off the fruit a bit and eat more veggies/nuts?

[Rawkinlocs]

For me, those detox symptoms were usually alleviated with some light bowel cleansing via an enema. I know that's a controversial subject and some do and some don't feel comfortable with them, but they sure helped me immensely with those detox headaches and other symptoms.

Also realize that when you stop cooked food, you go through cooked food withdrawals. I just made sure that I had plenty of my absolute favorite raw food items to eat on hand as much as possible. Drink plenty of water to help flush your system out too and consider first thing in the morning (probably should get up a little earlier if you plan to try this) drinking a warm-to-hot cup of water with lemon juice squeezed in there. It helps aid the body with the continuation of detox and for some, they say it causes them to eliminate...a GOOD elimination!

[Green Life]

Thanks for the info. will keep it in mind.

[ChaiLife]

For me, those detox symptoms were usually alleviated with some light bowel cleansing via an enema. I know that's a controversial subject and some do and some don't feel comfortable with them, but they sure helped me immensely with those detox headaches and other symptoms.

Also realize that when you stop cooked food, you go through cooked food withdrawals. I just made sure that I had plenty of my absolute favorite raw food items to eat on hand as much as possible. Drink plenty of water to help flush your system out too and consider first thing in the morning (probably should get up a little earlier if you plan to try this) drinking a warm-to-hot cup of water with lemon juice squeezed in there. It helps aid the body with the continuation of detox and for some, they say it causes them to eliminate...a GOOD elimination!

OK. I hate to sound so naive but I AM! :o Is an enema a home made device or is it something you buy at a specialty store? Can you give methe low down on an enema please? Not committing to actually doing one yet....just need some more info. :D

[freelive]

Well, enema bag you buy. It would be complicated to make it yourself, although not imposible.
But you take enema at home. You simply put some water in your colon, than try to hold it(10 minutes ideally, but it is hard) and then let it out.) You can find instructions online.

[Lady Green Jeans]

Second what Rawkinlocs recommends. Definately colon cleanse. I was a perfect sad example when I first went raw. So very sick the entire first week. Happy to report it got progressively better with time. By the end of 4 weeks, I could chuckle about the mis-adventures of it all.

Hang in there and colon cleanse and stick with raw--most awsome.

[Shanti]

Raw talks all about going back to the source, how it's the most natural form of eating.....people compare how animals eat to our own natural instincts. I don't see how putting a tube up my bottom has anything to do with any sort of natural process? Shouldn't our bodies detox naturally?

[Rawkinlocs]

Raw talks all about going back to the source, how it's the most natural form of eating.....people compare how animals eat to our own natural instincts. I don't see how putting a tube up my bottom has anything to do with any sort of natural process? Shouldn't our bodies detox naturally?

Shanti, you definitely have the right and the option to not do an enema. It was a merely a suggestion for the person who started this thread who is having a rough time of her detox.

But consider this - for YEARS we have done some cruel and unnatural things to our bodies in the way we ate, what we ate, products we used, etc. etc. Sometimes when getting back to a natural way of eating, if the detox symptoms FROM all the unnatural things we did to our bodies gets to be too much to bear (in some cases even causing one to want to give up due to the discomfort and not being able to function at work, etc.) then sometimes we may need to help things along. Many people have had some miraculous results from doing bowel cleansing...but I'm not going to take this thread too far off-topic by getting into all of that.

Point being, it's there for you to decide and if you choose not to, that's fine...I gave the original poster MY personal experience and offered a suggestion, never said it was a mandatory thing. So, you have to do what works for you as with anything else in life! And we may be getting back or closer to our natural way of eating, but we still are not living in the wild and in nature - we all live in homes, use electricity, drive cars, eat with utensils, use appliances, sit on toilets rather than going out in the woods and squatting, etc. etc. So...

ChaiLife, yes, I just got an enema bottle from like Rite-Aid but they also sell them online. If you'd like more info, you can email me. Also, visit www.curezone.com as there is a WEALTH of information on enemas and various ways to do them on that site...warning, the site is pretty "busy" and has a lot of other stuff so try not to get lost over there! :p

[Shanti]

no, of course....I wasn't insisting in any way that it was right or wrong (sorry any enema supporters out there!), but simply inquiring as to whether there was a "natural" argument behind the benefits of doing them. One person posted about animals in the wild "you won't see a fox deep frying their meat...so then I tried to imagine a fox doing this...."

Who knows, if I tried it, I might support the idea as well.....maybe one day.....

[Rawkinlocs]

no, of course....I wasn't insisting in any way that it was right or wrong (sorry any enema supporters out there!), but simply inquiring as to whether there was a "natural" argument behind the benefits of doing them. One person posted about animals in the wild "you won't see a fox deep frying their meat...so then I tried to imagine a fox doing this...."

Who knows, if I tried it, I might support the idea as well.....maybe one day.....

I doubt it - that there's a "natural" argument in support of them. Yeah, I really try not to use the "if we were in the wild we wouldn't ____" arguments because there are a LOT of things we do, even as raw fooders, that we nor a fox would do in the wild! Blenders, smoothies, shopping for produce at a market rather than picking it straight from the trees, PAYING for food...just to name a few! LOL! :) But we can still find benefits in these modern technologies and advancements. OY...perish the thought of what Veganforlife would do without her GREEN SMOOTHIES!!!:eek: ;)

[GoingtoRAW]

Shanti, you definitely have the right and the option to not do an enema. It was a merely a suggestion for the person who started this thread who is having a rough time of her detox.

But consider this - for YEARS we have done some cruel and unnatural things to our bodies in the way we ate, what we ate, products we used, etc. etc. Sometimes when getting back to a natural way of eating, if the detox symptoms FROM all the unnatural things we did to our bodies gets to be too much to bear (in some cases even causing one to want to give up due to the discomfort and not being able to function at work, etc.) then sometimes we may need to help things along. Many people have had some miraculous results from doing bowel cleansing...but I'm not going to take this thread too far off-topic by getting into all of that.

Point being, it's there for you to decide and if you choose not to, that's fine...I gave the original poster MY personal experience and offered a suggestion, never said it was a mandatory thing. So, you have to do what works for you as with anything else in life! And we may be getting back or closer to our natural way of eating, but we still are not living in the wild and in nature - we all live in homes, use electricity, drive cars, eat with utensils, use appliances, sit on toilets rather than going out in the woods and squatting, etc. etc. So...

ChaiLife, yes, I just got an enema bottle from like Rite-Aid but they also sell them online. If you'd like more info, you can email me. Also, visit www.curezone.com as there is a WEALTH of information on enemas and various ways to do them on that site...warning, the site is pretty "busy" and has a lot of other stuff so try not to get lost over there! :p


I agree with Rawk....I just started transitioning to raw about a year and a half ago. Had it not been for the colonics that I have had (and admittedely they can be very uncomfortable - I guess I have a lot of crap trapped in there), I would probably not feel as well as I do. She is right. We have a right to do things the way we want - but we do live in the real world where toxins are entering our bodies every day because we don't live in sterile bubbles. We also don't live in the Garden of Eden. Those toxins need to come out some way if we want to experience optimum health.

I have a friend who has been vegan for probably 30 years or more. She is one of the healthiest people I know. For her a "cheat" is to eat a bag of organic potato chips once every few months! She is in her fifties and does not look a day over 35! She decided she wanted to go to the next level and adopt a raw lifestyle. After about 3 or 4 weeks of being raw she became very ill. She ended up in the hospital because her body was going through a serious detox. Instead of the toxins being expelled through colonics or enemas (which she had been advised to take by the person advising her through the transition), the toxins were wreaking havoc inside her body. She ended up passing out at work and being taken to the hospital by ambulance. If we lived in the jungle somewhere and breathed only fresh air, picked our fruits and veggies fresh off the trees and out of the gardens and were never exposed to chemicals, etc., we would probably never have to worry about that stuff. As "unnatural" as enemas and colonics may seem I think they have their place. We can chose to do them or not to do them. It really is up to each person to make that decision. I just don't think they should be condemned as "unnatural." Living with chemicals and toxins floating in our air is unnatural. Walking around with crap flowing through our systems is "unnatural" too yet somehow we learn to live with the discomfort of that. I say don't knock it if you haven't tried it!!!:o :eek:

[Shanti]

obviously I have really hit a nerve with those in strong support of enemas! I had no idea there would be such a rally . . . . .. Nor did I say we lived in the Garden of Eden, or that it was natural to this or that....as in the last post. I'll leave it at that....congrats if enemas have saved you from a horrible detox.....if you've found that they have been useful. And fine for me if I find it unnatural and would perhaps try an herbal form of laxative or something before...... we all have our choices. I find it particularly strange that someone would be taken by ambulance to the hospital from a D-tox! I would question that d-tox and the real reason for the medical emergency.

[ChaiLife]

Still not exactly sure this is something I am ready for but this site has some good info (and some info along the left side is available that I just don't want to know about!) Here is the tips section for newbies to the enema world: http://www.enematips.com/entipandtec.html

[LaTisha07]

Will enemas help bloat and gas? If so, I'll give it a try! lol I understand helping to get the toxins out because I did that master cleanse and it was critical that you drank a laxative tea and a sea salt flush each day to clean your system...and boy did that do the job! lol Sea sat mixed in 32 oz of water really really cleans you out so if an enema is out of a question, would that be okay?

[Rawkinlocs]

Will enemas help bloat and gas? If so, I'll give it a try! lol I understand helping to get the toxins out because I did that master cleanse and it was critical that you drank a laxative tea and a sea salt flush each day to clean your system...and boy did that do the job! lol Sea sat mixed in 32 oz of water really really cleans you out so if an enema is out of a question, would that be okay?

I have seen websites dedicated to doing salt water flushes that aren't associated with the MC, so I'd say if you're fine with those, then do those. My husband does them sometimes too. I personally cannot tolerate those salt drinks ::BLECH:: so I prefer enemas over those when needed. Yeah, they have helped me with gas and bloating too.