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Zuri
08-20-2007, 05:36 AM
Hi all,

I ran across some info. a long time ago about how garlic contains a chemical that is able to cross the blood brain barrier and cause all sorts of reactions from fatigue to brain fog and at the time I was in denial about it. Then I was talking to some of the people that run Ann Wigmore's raw lifestyle program in Puerto Rico and they said the same thing. THEN, I ran across this short article I've included at the end of this entry.

Even further, that very same day I had a simple salad of spinach, romaine, and mushrooms. I chopped up a clove of garlic and added it to the salad and I felt really bad afterwards. No, I dont think it was the dressing or anything else but the garlic. I felt extremely tired, unmotivated and just BLAH for about 4 hrs/until I went to the gym and hit the sauna.

So, have any of you heard this about garlic or believe it?

http://www.karinya.com/garlic.htm

Rawmommie
08-20-2007, 05:50 AM
Well, there is controversy about this b/c there is controversy about WHY some people may feel bad when eating it. I believe that it is a great fungal and antibacterial food. Therefor, many people have a bad DIE-OFF reaction when eating it b/c it's killing an overabundance of yeast that many people have in their bodies from antibiotics & the SAD lifestyle.

So, some may interpret it as detox and others may interpret it as toxic. I think you have to test it out for yourself for a while. If you continue to eat it, say, everyday for a week, do you start to improve? Do you start feeling better? Do you have any other yeast overgrowth symptoms?

EZ rider
08-20-2007, 06:23 AM
So, have any of you heard this about garlic or believe it?
I found this quote from the article interesting:

"Now, most people have heard most of their lives garlic is good for you, and we put those people in the same class of ignorance as the mothers who at the turn of the century would buy morphine sulphate in the drugstore and give it to their babies to put'em to sleep."

I use garlic and have never noticed the kind of reactions the author mentions in the article.

jeannieh99
08-20-2007, 07:16 AM
I am puzzled by this information. I too, have heard, read, learned all my life about the wonderful, medicinal properties of garlic. Now, I am reading that garlic is toxic and should not be eaten. Not just in the sites mentioned here but also on another rawfood site, the path of health. They claim not only garlic but many other foods we have all grown up thinking were great foods.
garlic is good. garlic is bad. green bell peppers are good. green bell peppers are bad. mushrooms are good. mushrooms are bad. I could go on and on.
we would end up with far too few foods to eat if we listen to all the "experts".

I think there are fanatics, extremists in any realm of life, so my take is take every bit of information and at the end of the day you have to do what you believe is the right thing for you.
I could be wrong but look forward to seeing others opinions on this.
Jeannie

dreamrawalwz
08-20-2007, 07:27 AM
I know it doesn't work for me. I've read garlic and onions are excitotoxins and that's how my body reacts to them. I feel REALLY sick, as if I had a bad cold or sinus infection. I also basically fall alseep too. Wierd thing is that I can handle both ONLY if they're juiced. I'm guessing that removes some outter layer or the plant that is irritating?

I like the theory that if you can't make a meal of it, it's not good for you :p THat's just MY personal opinion though.

I guess just like everything else, if it makes you feel bad don't force yourself to eat it, but if you feel fine with something, continue to eat it. Then again, some would say they feel fine after fast food ;) lol

Riiiya
08-20-2007, 07:37 AM
never noticed anything negative after eating garlic..but now i feel i WILL just because i read that article argh:(

Authenticme
08-20-2007, 08:20 AM
Wow! This thread really suprises me. What about all the cultures who's health and beautiful looks are attributed to their diet that's rich in foods like garlice. I'm thinking specifically of the Mediterrean and parts of Europe. They boast everything from low cholestorol to healthier hearts due to a diet rich in good fats and garlic.

I for one love garlic. I used to be one who was prone to nasty colds in the winter. My remedy became one garlic, roasted in the oven until soft,drizzle with olive oil, sprinkle with salt and pepper and eat! Knocked the cold right out. But perhaps I'm one of those people who needs the antifungal, antibacterial properties more then others.

Zuri
08-20-2007, 08:47 AM
Well, there is controversy about this b/c there is controversy about WHY some people may feel bad when eating it. I believe that it is a great fungal and antibacterial food. Therefor, many people have a bad DIE-OFF reaction when eating it b/c it's killing an overabundance of yeast that many people have in their bodies from antibiotics & the SAD lifestyle.

So, some may interpret it as detox and others may interpret it as toxic. I think you have to test it out for yourself for a while. If you continue to eat it, say, everyday for a week, do you start to improve? Do you start feeling better? Do you have any other yeast overgrowth symptoms?

When I first started eating raw and ever since I put garlic in everythingn from dressings to dehy. crackers...well, in any recipe I felt I could fit it into. I hadn't ever noticed this type of reaction 'til now. I don't have yeast challenges or symptoms to my knowledge. I don't know. :o

tinystrawberry
08-20-2007, 08:53 AM
i feel like i get heartburn after eating raw onion:eek: :eek: :eek:
it lasts awhile too
i feel fine after eating garlic, but i have heard that garlic is horrible for you/and that you should eat it everyday because it's so good for you.

tinystrawberry
08-20-2007, 08:55 AM
My remedy became one garlic, roasted in the oven until soft,drizzle with olive oil, sprinkle with salt and pepper and eat!

my mom eats this alllll of the time!

EmJo
08-20-2007, 09:03 AM
The Natural Hygiene philosophy tells you to avoid garlic and onion b/c they are irritants. Personally, I have to eat them cooked or dehydrated. Plain raw, and I burp the taste the rest of the day.:eek:

But each body is unique. If you do well on garlic, I don't see why you shouldn't use it as a condiment. If you don't, then don't eat it and trust that the rest of your nutrient-rich raw diet is giving you the same benefits as garlic.

greenday
08-20-2007, 10:08 AM
I still think garlic is a very good food -- but it doesn't agree with me. Everytime I eat it I get terrible burning in my stomach for many hours afterwards. I can eat habaneros and my stomach is fine, but a bit of garlic and it rips me up. Sometimes...this happens with onion, too. Raw is worse for both. I avoid them, plain and simple. However, I really do think garlic and onion have many health benefits for those who can tolerate them!

Rawzula
08-20-2007, 10:13 AM
Garlic has helped me to curb yeast infections I'm so prone to.

But I would never eat garlic by itself, always mixed with something (like juice).

It's good for athlete's foot:eek:.

JudyMac
08-20-2007, 10:32 AM
Well that article was certainly interesting, however with reference to that link.

I am a Medical Electronics Engineer by trade, I maintain and service all types of hospital equipment including EEGs. The only way you can get multiple wave flatline is if;
a) It is not connected.
b) The electrodes are not in place properly.
c) The machine is faulty.
d) The technician using the machine has done something stupid.
e) You are in the middle of a power out.
f) The patient is dead.

If EEGs had ever had a garlic issue I would know about it. Someone is pulling your chain...

As for garlic being good for you it is. As to whether or not you like it, well I honestly think that depends on the person, and on your personal tastes that way.

It is one of Natures best antibiotics, known to kill over 22 bacterial infections, and was used as such in European hospitals on wounds until the invention of penicillin.

The French swear by it's healing properties when eaten RAW. They believe that it helps to prevent heart disease and colds. It should be noted that the French have low heart disease.

Also if you have been eating garlic, yes your sweat will smell of it, that is how it can heal from the inside out.

Zuri
08-20-2007, 11:21 AM
Here's another article similar to the other one but with more info. Hey, I'm just putting up a few links here, so please don't attempt to "shoot the messenger". We are all adults and able to make up our own mind.

http://www.windoftruth.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?ArticleID=15006

JudyMac
08-20-2007, 02:58 PM
Dear Zuri,
My reply was not to shoot the mesenger, just to add scientific fact to some lala land statements (sorry to all inhabitants of lala land for this defamation!) and to help you out.

Please do remember that just because something is posted on the internet, does not make it medical fact.

It may also be noted that the vedic culture and yogis/yoginis also avoid garlic as it is seen as a stimulant. Many 'New Agers' avoid it for this reason.

As I said I think it is personal choice. I just wanted the thread to be balanced.

Thank you for posting this thread, I have found it interesting.

By the way the last article you posted a link to, and I did read it, is also technically incorrect. An ECG measures heart rhythms, not brainwaves...

EZ rider
08-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Something else that gives me pause about the two articles mentioned. If people who ate garlic went brain dead you would think a lot of people would be talking about it and maybe the law would be arresting people for driving under the influence of garlic but in all my life I have never heard of garlic causing brain dead reactions until this thread. Thats not saying it dosn't -- it just gives me ... p a u s e .

JudyMac
08-20-2007, 04:05 PM
Dear Zuri,
It has been pointed out that one of my earlier statements, could be taken as inflammatory, not the way I meant it at all. I apologise for that, and have modified the line, so that it can offend no-one.

Bobbie
08-20-2007, 04:17 PM
I've heard this but never experienced any bad reactions from garlic.
Weeds all contain poisons (except nettles) but they're full of good stuff too. It's possible garlic contains toxic substances but its full of good ones too. So I guess moderation in everything - take it in high doses when you have a cold/flue/fungal infection, use it moderately the rest of the time, and don't overdo it.

shine72
08-20-2007, 04:35 PM
(or in this case eating it), then I don't ever, EVAH wanna be right!:D

EZ rider
08-20-2007, 04:49 PM
I use a lot of garlic everyday. In the right amount it adds a flavor to the foods that I like. The point is that if eating garlic made a person brain dead then I would be in a constant state of comatose and I'm not. I feel just fine physically and mentally. :)

Anastasia Alston
08-20-2007, 07:30 PM
(or in this case eating it), then I don't ever, EVAH wanna be right!:D

Oh, I am SO right there with you on this one! :D

Stasi

Zuri
08-21-2007, 06:51 AM
Dear Zuri,
My reply was not to shoot the mesenger, just to add scientific fact to some lala land statements (sorry to all inhabitants of lala land for this defamation!) and to help you out.

Please do remember that just because something is posted on the internet, does not make it medical fact.

It may also be noted that the vedic culture and yogis/yoginis also avoid garlic as it is seen as a stimulant. Many 'New Agers' avoid it for this reason.

As I said I think it is personal choice. I just wanted the thread to be balanced.

Thank you for posting this thread, I have found it interesting.

By the way the last article you posted a link to, and I did read it, is also technically incorrect. An ECG measures heart rhythms, not brainwaves...

I'm aware that not everything on the net is medical fact. I'm very much able to discern what is my truth and what isn't. I take what info. resonates with me and keep it movin'. I definitely appreciate everyone's opinion on the article(s) and I felt they were very kind and forthright without letting their ego downgrade the purpose of me posting this thread. :cool:

rawsurfer
08-21-2007, 03:32 PM
i def dont want to give up garlic cuz i love it but if it is really bad for me then i will avoid it. food is fuel not orgasm (although it can be enjoyed as both). some may say comparing food to sex is a little extreme but whatever i love food and it is oh so pleasurable:eek: haha but seriously... you know what im gonna do? after my juice fast i am going to eat some garlic and see for myself. ive found that is the best method for gaining knowledge about things affecting my body (although in some circumstances it may be best to let other people try it lol.. imagine how all the cultures figured out the plants that killed you and what not)