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styersky
08-11-2007, 06:20 PM
I am "craving" chocolate fudge. Can someone share some good recipes, RAW of course. THANKS!

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 06:26 PM
Alissa's book has Fudge Balls and a walnut fudge that tastes like blonde brownies.

styersky
08-11-2007, 06:55 PM
I do not yet have Alissa's book. Can't yet fit it in my budget, but maybe soon.

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 06:57 PM
I did a quick search and here's something:
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=29140&highlight=fudge+recipes

styersky
08-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Thanks. I looked at just a few recipes and did not have ingredients for any, so I adapted to what ingredients I have on hand. Here is what I came up with and I liked it and the craving is gone. I was concerned that I would "eat the whole thing" because that is what I did previously when it came to chocolate. I had one small serving and I am perfectly satisifed. Something has happened to my body in the last three weeks . . . something I like a lot! Even my husband likes this, and he is just not into RAW. Hope it helps someone else with that chocolate craving!

My own Fudge Recipe
2 c coconut
½ c cocoa
Stir well in large bowl
3 c walnuts, process until creamy
½ c honey
½ c water
¼ c coconut oil
Process well. Then stir into to coconut and cocoa mixture.
Press into flat, covered glass dish. Place in refrigerator 1 hour. Cut into squares.
When firm remove from dish and freeze individual squares.
(For one person it is too much to store in refrigerator only.)

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 08:51 PM
Cool! What's happening to your body is that it is learning that it is getting real, wholesome foods and you don't need to eat as much! Which is way cool! It is becoming satisfied on less. When one eats SAD/CRAP so-called foods, which are empty of any nutritional value - it (the body) keeps on looking for more and wanting more that's why one eats and eats and eats and becomes heavy. Raw is just the opposite. My portions have gone down tremendously, which is way cool!!!
The recipe looks awesome by the way - thanks for sharing!

styersky
08-11-2007, 09:15 PM
I believe you must be right. But when I have eaten incorrectly for 71 years it is difficult to immediately accept that this can be healthy. Like where is the protein, where is the B12, where is the calcium I need from milk, etc., etc., etc. And what will my doctor say if he ever finds out? HOWEVER, I feel so great, I am slowly losing weight after fighting weight all of my adult life. I am not dieting so how can I lose weight !?!?!?!?

Thanks for your help!

Stina
08-11-2007, 09:19 PM
Fudge!! Love that Alissa recipe! I've got a batch of it parked in my best friend's fridge so that I don't cheat when I go over there! Bet she's tapping it with a spoon right now.....
But my trusty Cuisinart stresses out with that heavy recipe.:( Thought her old motor was going to burnt out on me yesterday. Anyone else got that problem with heavy nut recipes?

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 09:27 PM
I believe you must be right. But when I have eaten incorrectly for 71 years it is difficult to immediately accept that this can be healthy. Like where is the protein, where is the B12, where is the calcium I need from milk, etc., etc., etc. And what will my doctor say if he ever finds out? HOWEVER, I feel so great, I am slowly losing weight after fighting weight all of my adult life. I am not dieting so how can I lose weight !?!?!?!?

Thanks for your help!

The protein, B12 and calcium all come from the fruits and greens that you are consuming. We have been conditioned by the dairy and meat industries (big $$$ making businesses) to believe that ONLY those can give us what we need. That's bull. We know that. Screw the doctor! (Not literally). If he/she has any kindness they will be amazed and glad that you are healing and becoming healthy. You will continue to feel great and YOUNGER. I'm 53 and have more energy then I did at 23! It's awesome!
As far as dieting? Your body is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Getting to IT's ideal weight, not what some chart says it should be.
Hey, anytime I can help - let me know. We're all in this together!!!
Do you workout at all? That too is a big compliment to the raw diet. I've been very lacking in doing this, but lately have kicked my workout in full gear and WHOA! Talk about energy! It has increased it (like I didn't think it could any further) tremendously. Plus sleeping even better. I swear I think I'm asleep before my head hits the pillow! :eek: But then I pop up about 5-5:30 ready to greet another RAWKIN' day!
You will continue to feel so good you'll wish you had discovered this years ago. BTW - how did you come about here and discovering raw?
Have you checked on eBay for Alissa's book? You may be able to purchase it cheaper. You said your budget isn't allowing it right now. It is so powerful. Full of information and quotes and recipes. It is a great addition to help one on their raw journey.

Also, this recipe is on Alissa's store under the Virgin Oil De Coco Crème she sells. It is VERY good too!

Just like chocolate!
1 cup Virgin Oil De Coco Crème
3/4 cup raw carob
6 Tbsp raw agave nectar (or more to taste)
A pinch of sea salt
You can add vanilla or other flavors such as mint as well. Blend all in a blender until smooth and creamy. Place in little cups or dividers and place in freezer for an hour. Keep refrigerated as this will melt.

styersky
08-11-2007, 09:40 PM
I have been to ebay. But the price is about the same. Maybe I need to go back there and check that to be sure I am not misunderstanding.

I walk about 5 days each week, from 2 to 3 miles per day. I go to the County Park where the walking trail is quite a workout because of the steep inclines built into it. I thought I was doing great. I walk very fast and add some challenges of my own here and there.

But the last few days we have been laying laminate flooring in a new room we are building onto our house. My husband is 84 and has had knee surgery and I have always done anything that requires crawling around and stooping, etc. But this week I learned that I am so STIFF . . . walking alone is not enough. I will, as soon as I get able (I am so sore today) get into some different exercise or maybe I should say additional exercises and not just walking.

I, too, am an early riser. I am usually awake by 5:30 and sometimes walk with my walking buddy before she goes to work.

Three weeks ago when I started RAW I was getting so lethargic, no motivation, just did what had to be done, etc. Just not like me. Don't know just what was going on with me. But in these three weeks I am feeling better than I have in many years, both physically and emotionally.

And I love this Board and all the encouragement we get!

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 09:51 PM
Good for you! Just keep moving it. It'll all loosen up. My Mom is 83 and walks 2x a day. Rides her stationary bike about 8-10 miles a day and is very active! We are never to old to move - ESPECIALLY when eating raw. Our bodies are very forgiving. This is why I would love to see Green Smoothies being served in nursing homes. At least make folks' final years somewhat energetic and productive. Even if they are in wheelchairs, they could still have enough energy to play board games or whatever.
Gosh, we've gone from Chocolate Fudge Recipes to moving it! HA!!!
Keep on keeping on styersky (what's that name mean btw?)

styersky
08-11-2007, 09:56 PM
My name is Styers and I live in Ky

Any suggestions how I might interest my 84 year old husband in green smoothies. Mine are not always the most tasty, but I enjoy the feeling whether I enjoy the taste. So I consume anyway and try to make more tasty tomorrow. Any suggestions for getting enough green to be worthwhile and still tasty enough for him?

Veganforlife
08-11-2007, 10:19 PM
What fruits does he like? I'd start with that and add a bit of green to it. Then increase as he becomes used to them. Is he willing to try them? I only make ones I will like. I have done so many "diets" eating this or not eating that. Eating raw is all about liking what you eat. So I suggest making a fruit smoothie with fruits he enjoys and adding a few leaves of baby organic spinach. Then the next day add a romaine leaf to other fruits he likes. Change it up. Yours too. Anytime you want to e-mail me with questions feel free. My e-mail is: heididog@qis.net
It's how we all learn - questioning.

styersky
08-11-2007, 10:23 PM
I will try harder. Thanks. I like a handful or two of spinach or Kale because of the way it makes me feel. Maybe I will try something especially for him rather than share mine. I really want him to get into green. At 84 I feel he needs all the help I can give him, but he must really enjoy it or he won't eat it, whatever it is.

styersky
08-12-2007, 07:42 AM
Veganforlife . . . A special question for you. I understand that you are not a doctor and cannot prescribe or diagnose and I am not asking you to do that.

My husband is 84 and is experiencing dementia and is possibly heading for alzheimers, according to the neurologist after extensive testing. Can you talk to me specifically about that. Otherwise, except for his knee replacement and a complication from that, he is in perfect health. I would like to be dealing nutritionally with the dementia more than I am. He is cooperative but it must taste good. He thoroughly enjoyed the fudge I made last night. He will eat avocado in a salad, but not too much because he says it doesn't taste good . . . he has just been accustomed to eating it in small amounts so we are working on that.

I have had problems with depression and I think it is the spinach (third of a bag every morning in my green smoothie) along with the avocado that has made an indescribable difference for me. If you can give me some direction for him as to what I really need to be working into his diet I would appreciate it.

The neurologist says he is also having mini strokes but we are never aware. Maybe this happens at night.

We both lean towards osteoporosis and I take meds and would like to know how to deal with that. He is borderline. Any specific suggestions there?

THANKS ! ! !

Shell
08-12-2007, 07:46 AM
Fudge!! Love that Alissa recipe! I've got a batch of it parked in my best friend's fridge so that I don't cheat when I go over there! Bet she's tapping it with a spoon right now.....
But my trusty Cuisinart stresses out with that heavy recipe.:( Thought her old motor was going to burnt out on me yesterday. Anyone else got that problem with heavy nut recipes?

Hey Stina! YES! I also love Alissa's fudge balls, but I DID burn out the motor of my food processor....luckily it was still under warranty, and I got a replacement (didn't tell them it was MY fault...:D )!

Veganforlife
08-12-2007, 07:51 AM
WOW! You're right I would never try to diagnose or prescribe. I'll try to address these issues.

My first thought was water. Does he drink enough water? I know a lot of elderly folks do not. They get dehydrated. Water is so very important.
Second - incorporate as many raw fruits and veggies as his little appetite will allow - making them taste good. Like I said in a previous post. I will not eat or drink anything I don't like. Why should I?
Is he on any meds for anything? DO not take him off of them, that could cause more harm than good.
Does he get outside in the sunshine? That's a good healing thing to do. Even to sit outside for a bit - not in intense, frying heat, but in the shade if it is so awful hot, or on a nice, cool, sunny day for a bit in the sun.
I would try to get green smoothies in him. And like my previous post - make them taste good. Get HIM involved in deciding what he likes in them.
How much can he do for himself?
Also, wheatgrass. If you could get him to drink a SMALL shot of wheatgrass first thing in the morning (you too) - what a difference THAT would make. I know my local HFS (Health Food Store) carries frozen wheatgrass, but now I grow my own. Ann Wigmore's book, "The Wheatgrass Book" tells of the powers of wheatgrass. Just a little bit to start on an empty stomach, wait about a half an hour to an hour and then eat something - raw, of course.
How about sprouts? They too are little energy bundles and full of goodness.

Between the wheatgrass and the green smoothies - things should start to improve - hopefully.
Is he willing to help himself?

Revvell
08-12-2007, 09:25 AM
Fudge!! Love that Alissa recipe! I've got a batch of it parked in my best friend's fridge so that I don't cheat when I go over there! Bet she's tapping it with a spoon right now.....
But my trusty Cuisinart stresses out with that heavy recipe.:( Thought her old motor was going to burnt out on me yesterday. Anyone else got that problem with heavy nut recipes?

Yeah. I'll put half of them in the fp at a time.

styersky
08-12-2007, 01:06 PM
Veganforlife . . . thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my questions about my 84 year old husband.

No, he does not drink enough water and I work on that constantly.

He has a very good appetite, but is not really much interested in trying anything new, so I will have to stick with the fruits he likes (as you have suggested before) and try to make a smoothie with spinach added so that he does not know about the spinach. (He is color blind and does not see green!)

He is on some meds, and we do not dare tamper with that. THANKS!

He loves outside and does the yard work. I will try to encourage even more.

He does everything for himself, except needs help with his meds. Just not committed to meds so I have to stay on top of that.

I am not familiar with wheatgrass so will have to read up on that.

We eat salads a lot. I will begin adding sprouts. He is ok with that. I just don't do it often enough. Will definitely make that change immediately.

He is definitely interested in helping himself, as long as it does not require new foods with which he is not familiar! The way we met was that I owned a small health food store for a short time across from his apartment in California. He was a customer and very interested in health. Then we moved from Southern California. after we were married, to the boonies in Ky and there is just not as much going on in the nutrition arena. We are pretty much on our own. He is very health conscious. Until recently we were active, since he retired, renovating, buying, renting and selling real estate. He is very good working with his hands. A retired electrical engineer.

He has no obvious health problems and is very active . . . just a bit of dementia creeping in. Because of our concern for health we have been seeing a neurologist the past several years just to be sure we did not let something like alzheimers creep up on us. About a year ago the neurologist said it is a possibility in the future and we are just wanting to do everything possible to postpone or prevent. Also that he is experiencing mini strokes but we are not aware when. So apparently this happens when asleep.

I have not read anything about the effect of nutrition upon prevention of alzheimers. So I am very interested in anything. Apparently, from what you are saying, I just need to get him into RAW as much as is acceptable to him without pushing.

Thank you so much. His children live far away and I have no family. So your advice is so encouraging. THANKS!

SparklePlenty
08-14-2007, 09:29 PM
Here is the best chocolate fudge I've come across:

1/2 c raw cocoa powder
1/2 c agave
1/4 c EV coconut oil

Blend til smooth, put in bowl/container and cover. Refrigerate and eat by the teaspoonful. YUM!

ladypeace82
08-15-2007, 10:11 AM
I just want to say that Veganforlife and styersky, you both inspire me to be just as healthy when I get to that point in life. People in my family tend to live forever. But how great will it be if I live forever, well for a long time, and be super healthy too?

now if only I could get MY husband to jump on this band wagon...

I just started raw today, and hope to stay this way.
this is the best forum i've found. Other forums people don't post very often.
love it!

Veganforlife
08-15-2007, 10:13 AM
ladypeace - thank you! Wish I had done this years ago, but having been Vegetarian for 26 years and Vegan for 2 prior to going raw, I guess I've done not too too badly.

tisha
08-15-2007, 12:28 PM
Hi,

My dh was not gung ho about green smoothies at first, but now he drinks whatever I fix him. He told me just last night that they don't always taste wonderful, but he knows that they are good for him so he drinks them.

About disease, including dementia, all disease starts in the colon. I wonder if your husband would be agreeable to colon cleansing and colonics. He may not. Some men feel funny about even discussing the topic, not to mention, "You want to put it WHERE!" :eek: :D

Another thing you might consider is using essential oils to help stimulate his memory. Peppermint is a great oil for that. There are others. I could write you privately if you want.

love,
tisha

tisha
08-15-2007, 12:50 PM
Sparkleplenty,

I just made your fudge recipe. It is AMAZING! I saw that I had all of the ingredients and decided to try it. It took less than 5 minutes. I added some walnuts, too, since I have those. It's in the fridge now. I let my boys lick the spatula. They loved it, too. I told them it had spinach in it. ;) Then I got to wondering if I could add spinach to it. Would anyone be any the wiser? Would it affect the taste? Hmm...I may have to experiment. :D

Veganforlife
08-15-2007, 01:00 PM
It would not affect the taste because the cacao is such a strong flavor. I would blend up the spinach really well though. Popeye would be proud!

fuzzywater
08-15-2007, 01:01 PM
I told them it had spinach in it. ;) Then I got to wondering if I could add spinach to it. Would anyone be any the wiser? Would it affect the taste? Hmm...I may have to experiment. :D

You know, I actually just noticed a book called "The Sneaky Chef" that does that kind of thing. (No, the cookbook isn't raw, unfortunately.) But the idea is that you can sneak spinach into brownies and cauliflower into chocolate-chip cookies and such.

So... today I blended up some of my mache with just a bit of water and then poured it into an old clean agave bottle with squirt top. Then, when I made my banana/cashew/chocolate drink, I threw in a nice squirt of greens.... and no, you can't taste it.

I'd bet you could do something similar with the fudge recipe. :-) Let us know!

samariah
08-15-2007, 02:47 PM
ive made the fudge recipe but it came out like a chocolate. what can i put in it to make it chewier and fudgier?

tanishamarshall
08-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Here is the best chocolate fudge I've come across:

1/2 c raw cocoa powder
1/2 c agave
1/4 c EV coconut oil

Blend til smooth, put in bowl/container and cover. Refrigerate and eat by the teaspoonful. YUM!

I wonder how these would work in the freezer, with walnuts in it as well. I'll have to try it.

styersky
08-15-2007, 04:53 PM
ive made the fudge recipe but it came out like a chocolate. what can i put in it to make it chewier and fudgier?

Not sure which recipe you used. When I made this one we were very pleased and thought it was very much like fudge.

My own Fudge Recipe
2 c coconut
½ c cocoa
Stir well in large bowl
3 c walnuts, process until creamy
½ c honey
½ c water
¼ c coconut oil
Process well. Then stir into to coconut and cocoa mixture.
Press into flat, covered glass dish. Place in refrigerator 1 hour. Cut into squares.
When firm remove from dish and freeze individual squares.
(For one person it is too much to store in refrigerator only.)

tanishamarshall
08-15-2007, 08:18 PM
Here is the best chocolate fudge I've come across:

1/2 c raw cocoa powder
1/2 c agave
1/4 c EV coconut oil

Blend til smooth, put in bowl/container and cover. Refrigerate and eat by the teaspoonful. YUM!

I made this but why does the Cocoa taste weird. Maybe I'm just to use to the bad stuff, I wonder how I can thin out the taste of the cocoa. Don't get me wrong it wasn't bad it's just really rich.

tisha
08-16-2007, 08:49 AM
My fudge was basically thick chocolate sauce when I made it. I put it in a square glass dish and put it in the fridge for a few hours. It firmed up nicely. I served it last night for some young women at church. Every one loved it except one girl who does not like the taste of coconut (oil). One lady raved about it and wanted the recipe. She said it reminded her of a Mounds candy bar.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that trying to make something raw that is "just like" the cooked version may set us up for being disappointed. I am new to this, but the raw things I have made so far are just not like the cooked traditional recipes that I make. Not worse, just different. I made a cashew/macadamia cheesecake. It was good. I liked it. But it just did not have the texture of a Cheesecake Factory cheesecake. :D I made Carrot Walnut burgers the other day. They were good, too, but if I served them to someone expecting a "burger" they would be disappointed. I also loved the fudge. It is not exactly like the fudge I am used to, but it is really good.

Tastes and expectations have to change. I made smoothies, too, for my friends last night. They were different than what some are used to. Almond milk instead of milk or yogurt or ice cream. They were really good to me, but to others, they just did not taste the same.

tanishamarshall
08-16-2007, 08:53 AM
Here is the best chocolate fudge I've come across:

1/2 c raw cocoa powder
1/2 c agave
1/4 c EV coconut oil

Blend til smooth, put in bowl/container and cover. Refrigerate and eat by the teaspoonful. YUM!

I made this last night very good and I added Walnuts and put it in teh freezer not it's like a fudge bar with walnuts. Very goooood, but rich.

tisha
08-16-2007, 10:52 AM
I made the chocolate/coconut/agave fudge again this morning. I have another function to attend tonight. I found some coconut cream concentrate (Tropical Traditions) on the shelf, so I added about 3/4ths cup of that and decreased the oil to about 1/4th cup. That made a big difference in the texture. It made it thicker and more fudge-like. The recipe calling for just coconut oil is a thinner chocolate. It still sets up just fine in the fridge, though.

tisha
08-16-2007, 11:05 AM
I also decided not to add spinach to my fudge. I thought about it, but the more I thought about adding spinach to fudge, it just seemed WRONG!:D

tanishamarshall
08-16-2007, 01:39 PM
I agree the spinach does sound wrong but even more wrong when your taking it to a party. I would probably do for my fudge at home though.