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rawjojo
09-23-2004, 03:16 PM
I have a question that probably everyone know the answer to except me. I am a little confused on the cold pressed oil issue. Are any oils that are cold-pressed considered to be raw OR are there only certain types of oil that ore raw, ex: olive, canola, seseme, etc. Please give me some info on this, I'm really in the dark! Thanks!
rawjojo

Helen Of Tennessee
09-23-2004, 03:42 PM
Hi Raw JoJo,

So far I have found 1 raw oil - coconut oil:

Wilderness Virgin Raw Coconut Oil (https://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/virgin_coconut_oil.asp)

There is some interesting information on the site pertaining to the processing of it and how it uses minimal heat in processing and it's low enough that it's still raw.

<>< Helen of Tennessee

NWgal
09-23-2004, 05:53 PM
Hey Helen .. I was wondering about the same thing.
So raw jo jo your NOT the only one who doenst know :)...

I have found on this board there are no stupid question. everyone is kind and helpfull.

Analeah
09-23-2004, 07:06 PM
I am pretty sure that (at least most) oils which are cold pressed are processed without the use of heat that would kill enzymes at least that is what I have learned from the reading I have done. As far as I know olive oil can be raw, flax seed oil too and I am sure there are others though they are the only ones I have tried myself. I'm not sure about canola or some different kinds though... Also I have read that it is better to buy oils which are less clear. Some oils you will notice are darker in color and have more sediment in them which is a sign of minimal processing. I don't have that much experience yet with coconut butter/oil but have heard it is one of the best oils out there. I have found that I use olive oil the most but I would like to find another raw oil that has more of a neutral flavor so I can add it to nut butters and whatnot.

rawfasting
09-23-2004, 08:36 PM
Most, if not all, cold pressed oils are heated by the press well over 115. However, stone crushed oils are usually different. Go here and read from the pros http://69.39.34.207/bariani/

ConsciousCuisine
09-23-2004, 08:54 PM
Rawfasting, great info, :) I love that link!

Dr. Udo Erasmus with "Flora" Supplements has an oil called "Udo's Choice". In addition to being a perfectly blended combination of EFA oils, he has developed a special process for extracting, bottling, storing and transporting them that leaves them truly whole. They are superior to most commercially-available oils.

Analeah
09-23-2004, 09:25 PM
hmm, now I don't know what to think! There's no way I can afford to buy this special oil and have it shipped to Europe. I just read an article gere http://www.living-foods.com/articles/oliveoil.html which explains about the extra virgin olive oil scandal in the US. I am hoping when I buy olive oil here that it is truly extra virgin and has been cold pressed. I guess the best thing though is to use as little as possible unless you can get the really good stuff. Thanks for the info on the udo oil CC, I just checked it out and it looks like really good stuff. After the 30 day challenge one of my goals is to completely stop using oil or use it only very very minimally if need be. Do you think it is possible to get enough oil/fat without eating oil? I also want to eat less nuts and seeds and eat primarily just fresh fruit and vegetables but I don't know if it's possible to get all the right nutrients and fat and whatnot by doing this...

Clarification on the cloudy olive oil that says extra virgin and cold pressed. Is there an guarantee this is raw?

rawjojo
09-24-2004, 07:16 AM
Hi CC
I am so glad to hear you say that about Udo's Oil. I started using that last month and I was getting nervous that it wasn't so goo after all. I did alot of research on it and it seemed great but sometimes I can be mistaken. Thanks for the backup reassurance.
rawjojo

Olive
12-16-2004, 02:49 PM
Analeah,

That's one of my longer term goals as well--to only eat oils in their whole food form, no extracted oils. As it is, I don't use a lot of oil. I got away from it following Dr. McDougall's guidelines for veganism. I don't know, there's something unappealing to me about glugging out a bunch of oil onto my food! For now, I do use flax and olive oil, mainly on salads.

Analeah
12-16-2004, 04:22 PM
I tried not eating any oil for a few weeks (except coconut oil) and was hoping to find some kind of improvement for skin clarity but I didn't notice anything so now I am back to eating olive oil every now and then. Why wouldn't Udo's be raw? I assumed it was but maybe its not?

rawvegirl
12-16-2004, 07:07 PM
My long-term goal for a while was to eventually forgo all isolated fats, as they aren't the healthiest. Instead of trying to figure out the confusion of which oils are raw and which aren't, I just said, what the heck, I don't use oils that much anyway, so I won't miss them. So when my flax oil ran out a couple months ago, I decided not to get anymore and I haven't missed it.

twinyoga
12-16-2004, 08:53 PM
Can I add to your question?

What is the difference between an olive I can buy at the grocery store and a raw olive?

I'm eating olives right now but don't really know if they are raw (I'm pretending they are for now!)

Debbie

rawjojo
12-17-2004, 08:02 AM
Hi Everyone!

I am pretty sure that udo's is raw or if not as close as you can be to raw. I have done some research on the company and they do not heat their ingredients however they do not claim raw either. I do believe it is very good for you.

Twin Yoga _ The olives that you purchase in the "regular" store are more than likely NOT raw. They have been either preserved or heat sealed in their cans or jars. Raw olives are completely different. I have found them once at mustard seed but haven't seen them since. Alot of people here purchase thme for eatraw.com and seem to have had good experiences with them. I am going to place an order after the first of the year. I let you know what happens.

rawjojo

Analeah
12-17-2004, 08:07 AM
I would advise everyone NOT to order from eatraw. They are charging my credit card random charges for NO apparent reason and they do not respond to any emails when I try to find out why. Their customer service is horrible and I will never order from them again. Lol just wanted to warn people out there, I know some people have had good experiences but I have talked to others who have had similar experiences to mine so watch out.

rawjojo
12-17-2004, 08:52 AM
Thanks Analeah,

I appreciate the post. I am defintly going to reconsider who I order with. I certainly don't want that happening to me. Who have you had good experiences with, or should I say, who would you recommend.
Thanks a million!
rawjojo

Sheryl
12-17-2004, 01:54 PM
Even truly 'cold pressed' oil can be heated; and it's no guarantee of non refined oil. Almost all 'cold' pressed oil is heated to levels that would cook it during processing, then heavily refined to make it last longer on the shelf. This means even antioxidents are removed (and usually sold to supplement companies)!! More stable manufactured antioxidents are then added back in to stabilize the product.

The most likely way to get real raw oil is to buy from small producers that can personally guarentee their oil.

Personally Piers and I stopped using any oils whatsoever. We do however use nuts, seed and avocado for the same texture and mouth feel of foods with oil in them.

As a side benefit dishes are much easier to clean too!!!

Cheers,
Sheryl
www.Raw-Pleasure.com

JustMe
12-17-2004, 11:32 PM
From the research i have done, any oil has a certain level of heat it can take before it mutates (transfatty acids). the oil with the highest level is coconut oil. so if you were still in your cooking ways, you could have this oil heated longer than you would other oils. I have seen the wilderness family website's coconut oil and how they process it. the little heat that they use should not affect the quality of the oil, espeically when you could practically fry something with this oil and it takes longer before it mutates. hope this helps! :)