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portiz
07-17-2007, 03:55 PM
By CARLA K. JOHNSON
Associated Press
July 17, 2007, 3:37PM

CHICAGO — Hopes that a diet low in fat and chock-full of fruits and vegetables could prevent the return of breast cancer were dashed today by a large, seven-year experiment in more than 3,000 women.

The government study found no benefit from a mega-veggies-and-fruit diet over the U.S. recommended servings of five fruits and vegetables a day — more than most Americans get.

Researchers noted that none of the breast cancer survivors lost weight on either diet. That led some experts to suggest that weight loss and exercise should be the next frontier for cancer prevention research. The study appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

"It sends us back to the drawing board," said Susan Gapstur of Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine, who wasn't involved in the new study but co-wrote an accompanying editorial in the journal.

"Should we really have focused on dietary components like fruits, vegetables and fat?" Gapstur asked. "Or should we be focusing, in addition to diet, on lifestyle factors including physical activity and weight?"

For now, the message for the 2.4 million breast cancer survivors in the United States is that they don't need to go overboard on veggies, researchers said.

"This should really lift some of the guilt if women are feeling, 'I'm just not doing enough,'" said study co-author Marcia Stefanick of Stanford University.

The research was kicked off by a $5 million grant from the late Wal-Mart heir John Walton and got an additional $30 million in support from the National Cancer Institute.

Walton wanted to support a scientific study so cancer survivors wouldn't have to "rely on folklore," said John Pierce, head of cancer prevention at University of California, San Diego, who led the research.

Earlier research on whether a healthy diet prevents breast cancer has shown mixed results. The new study was designed to be more rigorous.

In this experiment, all the women had been successfully treated for early stage breast cancer. Their average age was 53 when the study began.

A group of 1,537 women were randomly assigned to a daily diet that included five vegetable servings, three fruit servings, 16 ounces of vegetable juice and 30 grams of fiber. In most cases, a serving equaled a half-cup. French fries and iceberg lettuce couldn't be counted as vegetables.

The women were allowed to eat meat, but were told to get no more than 15 percent to 20 percent of their calories from fat, a goal they ultimately were unable to achieve.

"That's a tough diet," said Pierce, who ate that way himself along with his staff and the women in the study.

As a comparison, another 1,551 women were assigned to get educational materials about the importance of eating five servings of fruits and vegetables a day.

The women in both groups kept food diaries regularly, but not daily, through the course of the study.

During the next seven years, the cancer returned in about the same proportion of women in both groups: 256 women (16.7 percent) of the women on the special diet and 262 women (16.9 percent) in the comparison group. About 10 percent of both groups died during that time, most of them from breast cancer.

It didn't matter whether the breast cancer was the most common type — fueled by hormones — or not; the special diet didn't prevent the cancer from coming back. Those results run counter to a previous study by different researchers that suggested low-fat diets may help prevent the return of the type of breast cancer that is not linked to hormones.

In the mega-veggies group, the women changed their eating habits substantially, mostly by increasing fruits and vegetables to as much as 11 servings a day. They failed to meet the fat target, but did eat 13 percent less in fat calories than did the comparison group.

After one year, women on the high-vegetable diet had 73 percent higher blood levels of carotenoids (pigments found in fruits and vegetables) than the other women. That indicates they were truthful about how many fruits and vegetables they ate, Pierce said.

But they may not have been so honest about the calories they ate. The super-veggie group gained 1.3 pounds and the comparison group gained 0.88 pound, on average.

"There's no question they were underreporting on calories, especially the heavier women," Pierce said, or they would have lost weight.

Eva
07-17-2007, 04:06 PM
This study is pretty lame...

They didn't do anything. All the people had to do was to report what they ate. There was "no question" they were under-reporting what they ate. They were allowed to eat meat, which was supposed to be limited but was apparently "too difficult" to do. They weren't even following the guidelines, it says in the article!

Do researchers not read books like The China Study that are more rigorous than just asking some ladies to self report what they eat??? Do these authors not think before they say veggies have nothing to do with cancer??? Were the veggies cooked, raw, organic?

Is anyone surprised this is a government study, considering the government holds the hands of the meat and dairy industry???

bodaflower
07-17-2007, 04:07 PM
back to the drawing board :rolleyes:

portiz
07-17-2007, 04:19 PM
I laughed when I read it. I figured y'all would get a laugh out of it as well!
:rolleyes:

oh...and at least i agree with "french fries and iceberg lettuce couldn't be counted as vegetables."

GHOST27M
07-17-2007, 04:19 PM
What ever!!!!

They were able to eat meat so that means they could drink milk and eat dairy !

QUICK some on show the link where the old guy was speaking about animal protien and cancer!

Well he dedicated 50 years at cornell trying to find ways to feed starving kids good protien.
After all his research he became vegan!

most all his research was with milk protien casien

RawVegan4Health
07-17-2007, 04:33 PM
Going overboard on veggies??????????????????????????????????

GHOST27M
07-17-2007, 04:41 PM
Going overboard on veggies??????????????????????????????????


Im sure they were cooked any way.

Lets face it if it was healthy they would not tell us.

dreamrawalwz
07-17-2007, 04:55 PM
I didn't read the entire thing, but some people consider french fries veggies, and consider if you fry it that it's still a veggie and works the same way. Did they consider the source? If it's raw vs. cooked? Self reports aren't reliable either. Let's say they did eat raw veggies and fruit and more than "normal" it probably didn't do enough to counteract the meat and other products they consumed. The study is correct that it isn't JUST diet, but there have been MANY more studies that prove the enzymes an anti-oxidants found in fruits & veggies help prevent cancer. Now that doesn't mean (in the studies) that it helps "cure" cancer, but hey, it wouldn't progress it any further!!!!

I wonder who funded the study :rolleyes:

blueberrygirl
07-17-2007, 07:48 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: eyes rolling all over the room....

Going overboard on veggies??????????????????????????????????

OHHHHHHHHHH PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!:mad:

this study is lousy, i think women cheats a lot or maybe they eat broc with chesse on top or lot of dressing on salads.

cook vegs to dead.

that is why it dont work.

also the study is not clear enough about exactly what they are doing.

if that is true, then how come that i feel so much better when i am eating raw vegs and fruits than eating meat, soy, daisy ...etc.

besides, this study focus on five fruits and vegs a day. which it mean with meat, daisy, breads, junk foods.. that dont give fruits&vegs a chances to prove their powers.

Nurse in the Raw
07-17-2007, 09:25 PM
Notice it didn't say anything about raw so the study does not apply to what we are doing. So I guess they have proven what we all know to be true.....cooked veges don't heal anyone. Imagine that!

the_lab_rat
07-17-2007, 09:30 PM
This might have worried me slightly had the study not been funded by Walmart :rolleyes: