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Teatime
07-14-2007, 05:19 PM
Imagine that you were in a serious accident and they had to do surgery on you, that means you would have to under narcose and after the surgery you'll get medicines prescribed by the doctor.

- But aren't those chemicals from the narcose and medicines extremely dangerous for (high) raw foodists, since our bodies are very clean and light?

Another point I was wondering about was implants.

For example, after an accident your wounds have healed up, but your face is deformed. So in order to look more 'normal' again, you would have to get (silicone) implant, in the chin and the nose. And maybe some 'cosmetic filler', like collagen or bio-alchamid, to get a more symmetric mouth or face-shape.

- Wouldn't our body reject these unnatural substances, sillicone and the filler (or maybe even a hip-replacement or a bypass), and try to get rid of these?

I'm asking this because I want to embark on my raw journey with my aunt. My aunt had a severe accident, and she got plastic surgery to look more like herself from before the accident again. She's got a silicone implant in her nose and chin, and has a permanent filler, bio-alchemid in her lips and cheeks. She's feeling quite at peace now with the make-over.
I don't want her to worry and her body to react strangely.

Or for myself, since I am planning for a breast-enlargement on only my right-breast, since my right one is so much smaller compared to my left one.

I would love to hear your stories and advice on how to do raw food with upcoming surgeries or having had surgery (with implants) before.

sport
07-14-2007, 05:28 PM
I have been 100% raw for 2 years and have avoided medicines all of my adult life so I am fairly chemical free.
I was hospitalised a few months ago in Florida. I do not know what they gave me but I was so sick and feeling so bad that I took it and said nothing. I just wanted to get over it.
I was probably given the same dose that a non raw person would have been given and can not say if it had an adverse effect on me because I do not know if I would have healed any faster if I had not been treated.
Once I left the hospital I did not have any prescriptions filled and just left it to my body.

dreamrawalwz
07-14-2007, 06:38 PM
I think it could go one of two ways. You react worse to the medication or you react normally and detox it quicker since you're cleaner inside.

Dj 247
07-14-2007, 07:36 PM
I have never been a big medicine taker, but if I need it I am going to take it and not feel guilty. I will say that I am going to start asking more questions and ask if there are natural ways of taking care of the problem. I really do believe that doctors and checkups are vital to good health. I think even if you are 100% raw you need regular checkups.

sport
07-14-2007, 07:41 PM
I was all good intentions regarding never taking medicines but when I felt really bad all of my intentions took a hike.

Craig
07-14-2007, 09:52 PM
I have never been a big medicine taker, but if I need it I am going to take it and not feel guilty. I will say that I am going to start asking more questions and ask if there are natural ways of taking care of the problem. I really do believe that doctors and checkups are vital to good health. I think even if you are 100% raw you need regular checkups.

Nope, I will never go to regular check-ups. As long I am fine, I will never need regular check-ups.

Veganforlife
07-14-2007, 09:56 PM
Nope, I will never go to regular check-ups. As long I am fine, I will never need regular check-ups.

Craig - I totally agree. It it ain't broke - don't fix it. I have proven now by my healing in less then a year that I don't need no stinkin' doctors. I'd rather give my money to someone that needs it. I know my body. I know how I feel and now fueling it properly, well, doctors are a thing of the past for me. Of course unless something IS broken and needs to be set or cast, or stitched. That's different. But for a "check up"? Nah, don't think so.

barose
07-15-2007, 12:19 AM
I have never been a big medicine taker, but if I need it I am going to take it and not feel guilty. I will say that I am going to start asking more questions and ask if there are natural ways of taking care of the problem. I really do believe that doctors and checkups are vital to good health. I think even if you are 100% raw you need regular checkups.

I agree. Being raw doesnt mean you're perfect.

Dr. White
07-15-2007, 05:53 AM
My children have not seen an allopathic doc in 7 years. I do go and get a PAP every year to be sure that there is no cervical cancer since that's an area you can't see and it's so prevalent, but it's the only medical intervention that I participate in. If I get hit by a car though, please take me to the hospital.:D

Revvell
07-15-2007, 07:39 AM
I think EVERYONE should avoid accidents/surgery. With a diagnosis rate of 50/50 and 350,000 people dying from iotragenic disease every year...

My teacher hasn't been to an allopathic doctor since 1970; me? 1980.

I don't go for "routine" exams EVAH! BUT, like Dr. White, I get hit by a car (broken bones/internal injuires), yuh, take me to the hospital.

Revvell

snufkin
07-15-2007, 08:06 AM
I had been on a high raw diet for about 2-3 weeks the last time i went to the doctors because i needed stitches which was just a couple weeks ago. anyways, they gave me a tetanus shot and i had such a violent reaction to it. 105 fever, body aches, crying, disorientation (i still think my brain is fried from it), extreeeme fatigue that lasted for days, itchy feet, nausea... and then when those symptoms were over i got all theses itchy red bumps around my lips.

i dont think i would have reacted like that if i had been eating the SAD.

Dr. White
07-15-2007, 12:32 PM
I think you would have reacted the same, but I don't think you would have the "awareness" to notice that it was a reaction from the shot. Most people on SAD diets feel bad all of the time and don't realise it because it is "normal" for them. Just like they tell you your baby may have a swollen, red , fevered area on its leg after the shots... NOT NORMAL-- just widely accepted.

RawVegan4Health
07-15-2007, 10:04 PM
So are we trying to suggest that if we were more UNHEALTHY that we would be better suited to survive?http://www.muzikparadise.com/images/emoticon/interogation.gif

Revvell
07-16-2007, 01:57 AM
So are we trying to suggest that if we were more UNHEALTHY that we would be better suited to survive?http://www.muzikparadise.com/images/emoticon/interogation.gif

Who be "we" suggesting this?

Rossk
07-16-2007, 03:51 AM
so all in all , lets just not have accidents ok people :p its official
raw foodists agree its not ok to have one:p
so dont!!!

Teatime
07-16-2007, 06:34 AM
Yikes, that's serious :eek:

I do believe raw foodists feel more miserable after medication, because their bodies aren't used to crap anymore.

But what if you HAD to go under anestesia, you don't want to be awake while the doctors are cutting in your body, do you?

I still haven't found an answer to my my second question: how will raw foodists their bodies react on unnatural substances, like implants and fillers, pre- or after being (high) raw?

I had a nightmare of my raw body trying to push out my breast-implant, leaving my right-breast in a bloody mess for a while, then it slowly regenerated, ending up being all small again before the surgery :( .

Mishka
07-16-2007, 03:28 PM
I had only been 100% raw for 2 months when I went to the dentist to get the rest of my amalgam removed. I normally metabolize anasthetic drugs extremely quickly, (when I had knee surgery, I woke up in the middle of it, and they had to pile a ton more in me to keep me under), and the dentist knows when he gives me the novacaine shot he needs to work quickly. Anyways, so I hadn't been back to the dentist since I had been raw yet. Well he gave me the novacaine (I didn't think anything different would happen) and I kid you not...I felt like my heart began pounding out of my chest, I became diaphoretic, and suddenly had to empty my umm colon. After I returned from the bathroom, my body was still shaking, and my teeth were chattering...he told me well there is a small bit of adrenaline in the shots :eek: . Didn't know that. But my body within 15 minutes had gotten it out of my system...thanks be to God! So I just dealt with the removal of the fillings the best I could, I didn't want any more of that. I was pretty suprised, cuz I've had lots of dental work, and never a reaction like that. But I know I was dumping a ton of toxins during that stage too, so it may have just been a heavy load for my body to deal with at that time. I guess I'll find out for sure the next time I need meds. But the point being...my body handled it, and took care of the stuff quite efficiently. We are talking EVACUATION people ;) .
Personally, I just stay away from meds/drugs of anykind...unless I'd need it for dental work or emergency/trauma of some kind....and at that point ya know meds are better than dying! We can always do cleansing afterwards. I am coming to the conclusion that we do need to trust our bodies, and not be mentally fear oriented. I have learned to walk away from that. Life is too short to be driven by the fear of "what could happen"...cuz in the meantime I'm liv'in my life so much better off raw than my half dead sick SAD self was when I didn't have a thought about what meds could do to me.

Mishka

Nurse in the Raw
07-16-2007, 04:31 PM
I had a nightmare of my raw body trying to push out my breast-implant, leaving my right-breast in a bloody mess for a while, then it slowly regenerated, ending up being all small again before the surgery :( .

Maybe that's your body's way of telling you not to have the surgery? If one is bigger than the other.....can you have the larger one reduced instead of implants?

Zella Juice
07-16-2007, 05:00 PM
Yeah..have the larger one reduced.

I think a healthy body would reject that stuff.

as for meds...

I get headaches from tylenol & asprin. They used to take away the pain when I was not raw.

when we have been on green smoothies and raw foods for awhile...it breaks down the mucus barrier that our bodies make to protect us from toxins. We are able to absorb more nutrients from our raw foods...but unfortunatly we will also absorb any toxins that we put in our body.

Teatime
07-17-2007, 05:53 PM
Maybe that's your body's way of telling you not to have the surgery? If one is bigger than the other.....can you have the larger one reduced instead of implants?



Yeah..have the larger one reduced.

I think a healthy body would reject that stuff.

as for meds...

I get headaches from tylenol & asprin. They used to take away the pain when I was not raw.

when we have been on green smoothies and raw foods for awhile...it breaks down the mucus barrier that our bodies make to protect us from toxins. We are able to absorb more nutrients from our raw foods...but unfortunatly we will also absorb any toxins that we put in our body.

That would leave me with a boy's chest :p . The larger one is only a B-cup :( .
If they were a b and a c, I would reduce the c-breast, I like small, perky breasts. That's why I'm opting for a breast-enlargement.

I can life on without equal-sized/'natural-looking' breasts, I rather have a healthy natural body and bursting energy.

Though I really want to know more about it, because of my aunt who had facial reconstruction after a car-accident. Raw food isn't going to help her grow new bone-tissue, right? So she has these facial implants and fillers to make her look more like her old self again. I don't want her to get all these weird physical reactions because of the raw food. She, Shelly, is supposed to get her implants renewed every 15 years, that means surgery/anesthesia.

I was/am looking forward to try out all this awesome raw recipes with her, she's a great cook, and we could see ourselves being 100% raw in the future.

Revvell
07-17-2007, 07:19 PM
I'm having mine removed without the novacaine. Dentist thought I was crazy. Was nowhere near as bad as they make it out to be. Also had a scaling/deep cleaning (or whatever it's called). Went to USC for that. Student wanted to give me novocaine, told her it wasn't going to happen. THEN she wanted to finish with a flouride polish. That wasn't happening either.

I'm not real brave about tooth pain and have ALWAYS gotten the novocaine. Just have decided to give-it-a-go without. Nowhere near as bad as they make it out to be. I think it's done more for the dentist than for the patient. They can work faster when they don't have to be as care-filled.

Revvell


I had only been 100% raw for 2 months when I went to the dentist to get the rest of my amalgam removed.
Mishka

lydias
07-18-2007, 07:44 AM
According to Tonya Zavostas book, Coumadin would not be good

I also reacted badly to anesthesia when my wisdom teeth were removed.

Elizabeth
07-18-2007, 08:06 AM
My left breast is somewhat larger than the right..it is something I am aware of, but others have not noticed unless I pointed it out..LOL..(actually, if I gain weight, the difference becomes more pronounced) but, I have noticed that when I eat Raw for a while, they become more balanced. I think that there is congestion in my left side..my left calf is even a little larger and the left leg seems to tend to hold fluid, lymph/pudge?? in the area below the inner knee ..anyway, I know that, for me, eating Raw and cleansing brings the two sides more into balance. I am not sure if it is hormonal or clogged lymph ?? but, I would not be surprised if your breasts become more balanced on Raw.

I would definitely stay away from the implants.. My recommendation (to you and to me..heheh) is to eat Raw and let our wonderful bodies re-new themselves and find balance and give us the bodies we are meant to have..


Best!!! :)