Greens for thyroid?

[SmilingRawDancer]

I've just read several lists of foods to avoid for hypOthyroid issues:
Spinach, Kale, cauliflower etc.

My question is:
I need greens. We all do. But for a short while, what OTHER GREENS ARE THERE? I LOVE spinach. I love things like Frisee, Radiccio....but those aren't good in smoothies.
I really only like spinach in smoothies! Any advice?

[the_lab_rat]

I'm wondering about this too, after reading about hyperthyroid in some other thread. I've been looking stuff up all night and found a big list of foods to avoid for hypothyroid. Different sites say different things, but these were the common ones and I've read about these in magazines/journals before too. And darnit, strawberries?! Arrgh! :mad:

Cabbage, broccoli, turnips, rutabaga, mustard greens, kale, spinach, Brussels sprouts, peaches, pears, strawberries, radishes, cauliflower, corn, lima beans, soy, cassava, horseradish, watercress.

Another couple sites also listed flax :eek: asparagus, potatoes, and pine nuts... But then yet another couple sites said asparagus and potatoes were good.

Most of the sites say you don't have to cut these out of your diet completely, just don't eat them all the time. One site said this: "Cabbage and other brassicas (Chinese leaves, brussel sprouts, turnips and kale) contain compounds known as 'thioglucosides' which, if taken in excess can disrupt the function of the thyroid gland. However, it should be stressed that this tends to occur only in people whose diets are already deficient in iodine." Also, of little use to us, cooking apparently destroys a lot of the enzymes in those foods that interfere with the thyroid :rolleyes:

So anyway, that doesn't answer your question of what greens you can eat...because I don't know what's left other than lettuce! Oh, one site said parsley was good, but... a parsley smoothie?! ewwww! :p

edit: oh, there's also chard. Rainbow chard seems pretty mild but I haven't tried it yet in a smoothie. And also sprouts, like alfalfa, clover, mung, etc, and things like buckwheat, pea, and sunflower shoots (I find all these in the uh..sprout section? at Whole Foods and other HFSs. They're really mild and some like sunflower are kinda sweet. Hope that helps!

[katacykls]

I'm wondering about this too, after reading about hyperthyroid in some other thread. I've been looking stuff up all night and found a big list of foods to avoid for hypothyroid. Different sites say different things, but these were the common ones and I've read about these in magazines/journals before too. And darnit, strawberries?! Arrgh! :mad:

Cabbage, broccoli, turnips, rutabaga, mustard greens, kale, spinach, Brussels sprouts, peaches, pears, strawberries, radishes, cauliflower, corn, lima beans, soy, cassava, horseradish, watercress.

Another couple sites also listed flax :eek: asparagus, potatoes, and pine nuts... But then yet another couple sites said asparagus and potatoes were good.

Most of the sites say you don't have to cut these out of your diet completely, just don't eat them all the time. One site said this: "Cabbage and other brassicas (Chinese leaves, brussel sprouts, turnips and kale) contain compounds known as 'thioglucosides' which, if taken in excess can disrupt the function of the thyroid gland. However, it should be stressed that this tends to occur only in people whose diets are already deficient in iodine." Also, of little use to us, cooking apparently destroys a lot of the enzymes in those foods that interfere with the thyroid :rolleyes:

So anyway, that doesn't answer your question of what greens you can eat...because I don't know what's left other than lettuce! Oh, one site said parsley was good, but... a parsley smoothie?! ewwww! :p

edit: oh, there's also chard. Rainbow chard seems pretty mild but I haven't tried it yet in a smoothie. And also sprouts, like alfalfa, clover, mung, etc, and things like buckwheat, pea, and sunflower shoots (I find all these in the uh..sprout section? at Whole Foods and other HFSs. They're really mild and some like sunflower are kinda sweet. Hope that helps!





I beg to differ my dear. Parsley, Kale, Apple, Papaya, Bannana, and Lemon juice taste fabulous. My friends who are not Raw Foodists came over and where hungry and they absolutely loved it. Try it sometime, who knows--you might just fall in love with it ?:

[Dr. White]

I don't believe that there is any one true list of what a hyperthyroid person should and should not eat. I have some clients that have leveled out their thyroid drinking green smoothies filled with cruciferous veggies because that is what they muscle tested strong for. I would suggest finding a practitioner that will muscle test you to see what you should and should not have. While you are there , ask them to teach you "tip testing" so you will be able to test yourself from now on.

[dahlila]

Definitely get some spirulina and add that to your smoothie. It is loaded with iodine and that is very potent in healing thyroid deficiencies.

[Veganforlife]

Definitely get some spirulina and add that to your smoothie. It is loaded with iodine and that is very potent in healing thyroid deficiencies.

YES, YES, YES!!! Also eat more sea veggies.

Plus all these foods on these lists - they are talking cooked foods, right?

[GHOST27M]

If they knew how to stop Hypo T you think they would tell us???

Lets look for a min of how many people there are that have Hypo or Hyper.

I know FEW people on the SAD diet with a healthy thyroid.

Few people cook at home and the food industry does not care about you or your health. ( I am an Ex chef not a cook a chef!)

Auto immune diseases (hypo and hyper thyroid) is another name for We have no clue what causes it or we aren’t going to tell ya cause we will not make money if you are cured!

When I was diagnosed with hyper I was 20 years old !
I ate TONS of dairy and junk food (ate McDonalds most every meal cause it was on the base and closer (1 mile) than the galley. I think since then they built another galley on the base but it was Orlando.

Never heard of kale, spinach sucked, pine nuts?? form pine cones?? umm you get the picture.

There is no POSSIBLE way these things (leafy greens) hurt us! Maybe cooked ones cause cooking food is just unnatural and it does things to food.

Don’t believe the hype. Believe your body YOUR BODY !


"The FDA and the FTC are the leg-breakers for the pharmaceutical cartels.” words from Dr. Gary Glum

[SmilingRawDancer]

But I thought too much iodine influences the thyroid negatively?
Hmmm.

I thought as much about it being based on a cooked nutrient diet, but I still want to nurture my thryoid, and I ate half of a cauliflower yesterday. And spinach. My favorite foods are the goiterigenic ones :p
Strawberries! And peaches! I've had those too in the past couple of days.
oh welll just wondering.
Thanks for the info!

[Dr. White]

Most people are iodine deficient, but this is a good way of regulating iodine supplementation:

First, you need to know that the three things that block iodine uptake are bromine(found in store bought bread), flouride, and chlorine.

Iodoral tablets can be purchased online or from your health care professional. You cannot buy these in the health food store.

Slowly titrate up by adding on tablet every two days and monitoring your temp every morning before getting out of bed. Once your temp comes to 98.6, continue the dosage for one week and begin to decrease one tablet at a time still taking your temp every morning. This should help you find the lowest possible iodine dosage to maintain your temperature.


The above information is for education purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice.

[GHOST27M]

Most people are iodine deficient, but this is a good way of regulating iodine supplementation:

First, you need to know that the three things that block iodine uptake are bromine(found in store bought bread), flouride, and chlorine.

ccan be purchased online or from your health care professional. You cannot buy these in the health food store.

Slowly titrate up by adding on tablet every two days and monitoring your temp every morning before getting out of bed. Once your temp comes to 98.6, continue the dosage for one week and begin to decrease one tablet at a time still taking your temp every morning. This should help you find the lowest possible iodine dosage to maintain your temperature.


The above information is for education purposes only and should not be construed as medical advice.




Iodoral tablets ?? (its a doctor thang)

Raw food translation ** DRIED DULSE FLAKES!!

[RawChicky]

These are non-goitrogenic leafy greens:

romaine
red/green chard
swiss chard
red or green leaf lettuce
dandelion greens
parsely
arugala :eek:

there are more but this is what I use

[kristi7mark]

Dr. White is a trusted naturopathic doctor in my area.

I have had mono and she has worked with me toward my healing faithfully and successfully!

While I firmly believe as I know she does, that raw food is very healing to our bodies I think we can all agree that sometimes we need the help of a naturopath or homeopath and sometimes we may need supplements, herbal remedies or even naturopathic or homeopathic remedies to help us along.

For anyone curious about Iodoral here is an informative Q&A website.
http://www.quackcenter.com/iodoralquestions.html

Hope this is helpful! :)

[Dr. White]

Thanks Kristi! I truly do believe as a Classic Naturopath that our healing comes through foods, and dulse is a wonderful source of it. Iodoral is also a wonderful concentrated source of iodine for those in a healing crisis that need to get over the hump while their body is healing with good food.

I truly hope I did not offend. I don't even sell supplements (besides some professional grade food enzymes) in my wellness center because I believe that intent is everything and I never want selling supplements to become the intent of my healing practice.

I had a lady yesterday that said she had not been eating raw veggies since I started treating her for parasites because she was scared she would get another parasite:confused: . I told her to wash her veggies and start eating them! Food is definitely the answer, but unless you are doing dulse green smoothies in large amounts, for someone in a healing crisis, it may not be enough.

[GHOST27M]

Thanks Kristi! I truly do believe as a Classic Naturopath that our healing comes through foods, and dulse is a wonderful source of it. Iodoral is also a wonderful concentrated source of iodine for those in a healing crisis that need to get over the hump while their body is healing with good food.

I truly hope I did not offend. I don't even sell supplements (besides some professional grade food enzymes) in my wellness center because I believe that intent is everything and I never want selling supplements to become the intent of my healing practice.

I had a lady yesterday that said she had not been eating raw veggies since I started treating her for parasites because she was scared she would get another parasite:confused: . I told her to wash her veggies and start eating them! Food is definitely the answer, but unless you are doing dulse green smoothies in large amounts, for someone in a healing crisis, it may not be enough.


I did not mean any disrespect. Sorry Dr. White (heh we have same last name)

I was just being funny. I read up on the Iodine pill and it seems cool. I would always try an alternative. One thing it did do is get me to add dulse ALOT more to my diet. I had no Idea how important Iodine was.

I have had my thyroid NUKED and wish I could go back and try to fix it another way.

I hate levothyroxine (NAVY SYNTHROID) irregular heart beat side effect is the worst feeling EVER!
I feel so healthy then out of nowhere BAM Death is just waiting for me! I would not wish this on any one EVER!

SO I hate pills!

[Dr. White]

My mom had her thyroid irradiated too and she is taking Synthroid. I have tried to convince her to eat raw and promised her she would feel better, but it is easier to take a pill...

[Shoshannah]

Dr. White,

I lost my thyroid gland (had total thyroidectomy due to cancer) about 5 years ago. Would Iodoral be safe for someone with no thyroid tissue to take?

Also, I understand your need to be careful about giving out medical advice, but I was wondering.... I now have no thyroid and the nice doctor gives me a little white pill called Synthroid to take every day for the rest of my life.

That's it? One little white pill can do everything that my thyroid gland is supposed to do? I just cannot fathom that a gland in my body that was so vitally important to perfect homeostatic balance can be replaced with a little white pill.

Anyway, I guess what I am wondering is whether or not a person with no thyroid tissue needs more than just Synthroid and what deficiencies (or special medical challenges) you have noticed in your clients that are thyroidless.

[Dr. White]

That's a good question and one that I do not have the answer to. I will do some research today and post what I find here. I'm thinking that you would not supplement with iodine(iodoral) if you don't have a thyroid, but I need to really research it and think it through. This does not mean that you shouldn't eat iodine rich foods, but I'm just not sure about the supplementation part. I'm going to work out now and I'll ponder it while I'm doing that and then do some research.

You guys can call me Tina~~ Dr. White seems so formal on a board like this.

[Veganforlife]

Not reading ALL these posts. I believe the greens are to avoided when on a SAD/CRAP diet.

I had (read my testimony) a non-functioning thyroid pre-raw. Was on every dose of synthroid from lowest to highest. Nothing was regulating. 11 months after going raw - 100% - totally off thyroid meds - thyroid functioning perfectly.

I dare a health (ahem) professional to dispute what healed me. After six years of conventional meds - 11 months of eating 100% raw and I'm talking spinach, kale, cabbage, all the "no-no's", I am healed.

I supplemented the synthroid with sea greens.

Side note: I noticed this is an old post. BUT...nonetheless - thyroid problems are the "in" diagnosis nowadays it seems.

[oceanluv]

when I was ayoung teen-ager, the dr. had me take 3 drops of iodine in a glass of root beer, every day. I don't remember why, lol. the root beer was because I liked it.
I now use dulse flakes and other seaweeds, and no longer drink root beer. :)
BTW, I am also in new port richey fl.

[liz08]

I definitely think it's a great idea to get some spirulina to add to your smoothies. And look for a good naturopthic doctor who can help lead you in the right direction. I also think ThyroSense is a pretty good supplement. With it being difficult to find the right raw foods to help with thyroid issues (and difficult to avoid ones that supposedly aren't good for it), then a supplement might go a long way. ThyroSense (http://www.seacoastvitamins.com/product_info.php?products_id=1775) has some iodine in it, and works to help regulate the hormones and provide energy. I know of many people who say it has helped them quite a lot.

[gogreensmoothies]

found healing - specifically of hypothyroid - by eating ANY and ALL raw foods they wanted.

I started green smoothies and used mostly spinach as the choice greens - felt increasingly great the first few days, then started to come down to my "old normal" of fatigue, no energy.

Do you think I should have pressed through? started to switch my greens? stay away from spinach altogether?

I am new at this - but desperate. Unlike Dr. White in prior posts, I saw a naturopath who had no clue as to why I would have brain fog :rolleyes: and got me on his one-size-fits-all regimen, which when I learned that other's with different symptoms were getting the same treatment, I dropped out of his program never to return.

Now I'm seeing an herbalist. He has me on some supplements and has encouraged some dietary changes, but nothing like what I've been doing w/green smoothies.

Are there any reliable books that specifically deal w/raw food healing the thyroid?

Thanks for any help/input,
Cheri