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Yogalini
04-10-2005, 01:53 AM
Hi there!

I'm new to this forum...but not new to the idea of eating RAW. I'm 23 yr old female...and have been extremely active and healthy my entire life. Over the last 4 years I've been playing around with my diet to see what works best for me. I've been a vegetarian for about a year...and tried veganism for about 4 months, but didn't feel like it was the right diet for me. I was recently diagnosed with having a tumor (non-cancerous) on my liver and have been doing some research relating to nutrition/diets and regression of tumors, diseased states, etc. This is what brings me here!!! I have a ton of questions...I won't hassel you all with them at once though!

Does anyone have any personal experiences relating to this???

Also...when a raw diet consists of being, for example, 80% raw...does this mean 80% of the CALORIES consumed are raw?

AND - are milk products such as unpasteurized milk and cheese OK to consume on a raw diet? If unpasteurized milk products are unavailable and you are not yet ready to give up all dairy, would the consumption of dairy be a big "NO NO"??

Thanks for all your help!!!!

Yogalini

DotfromOz
04-10-2005, 05:16 AM
I was recently diagnosed with having a tumor (non-cancerous) on my liver and have been doing some research relating to nutrition/diets and regression of tumors, diseased states, etc....Does anyone have any personal experiences relating to this???

Others will have to weigh in on this question, as I have a benign pituitary gland tumor or tumors that I'm hoping will be healed by eating raw or mostly so.


Also...when a raw diet consists of being, for example, 80% raw...does this mean 80% of the CALORIES consumed are raw?

No. As I understand that, it means that 80% of the foods you eat are raw. Figuring calories is not generally a concern of raw foodists.


AND - are milk products such as unpasteurized milk and cheese OK to consume on a raw diet? If unpasteurized milk products are unavailable and you are not yet ready to give up all dairy, would the consumption of dairy be a big "NO NO"??

Obviously, you would not be considered 100% raw by those who use that designation to mean 100% vegan raw. Early on in my experience on this site, I was corrected by a more experienced poster that "raw eater" technically means from 70-75% on up. So, Carol Alt who states that she eats some dairy products and occasionally raw meat (as well as popcorn sometimes) would still be considered a raw foodist. The tendency that I've observed in most of what I've been reading on the topic is that such people are not considered to be fully raw by some who are 100% vegan raw, although this tendency is not often discussed openly. That observation may also simply be my skeptical side rearing its ugly head. The terms "transitional" and "transitioning" typically refer to those who still eat some cooked foods and are assumed to be working up to 100% raw, but I have also seen them used to refer to those who include some dairy and possibly even a bit of meat in their diets.

This thread here on RFT airs some nutritional concerns that you may want to look into since you indicate that you were dissatisfied with a vegan diet and raise questions about including dairy in a raw foods diet.

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3183&page=1&pp=25

I hope you are able to determine a diet that results in your return to complete health.

swingbolder
04-10-2005, 07:02 AM
>>The tendency that I've observed in most of what I've been reading on the topic is that such people are not considered to be fully raw by some who are 100% vegan raw, although this tendency is not often discussed openly.<<

To me a lot of these distinctions among raw foodists are akin to denominational squabbling, like evangelical Christians who say that Catholics aren't really Christian, or Catholics who say that Protestants don't belong to the "true church." They're all Christians, ultimately, y'know?

To me if you're eating exclusively raw food -- whether it's vegan, or includes some raw dairy, fish or meat, honey -- then you're raw. If your diet is predominantly raw, then you're raw. But then again, that's just my opinion. :D

Sweet lips
04-10-2005, 01:26 PM
Alissa Cohen owner of this board describes 100% vegan as one who does not consume eggs, diary or meat (which include fish).

I have a tumor in my arm that is shrinking - I would like to say it is gone, but I can say it is shrinking.

80% - 80% calories are consumption - only 20% something else.

I wish you well in this journey. Always ask what you need to know.

harmony
04-12-2005, 07:01 AM
Sweet Lips

I have a tumor on my arm (left) that I think is shrinking too. I believe it is a fatty tumor. I purposely didn't want to have it removed to see if I can deal with it naturally. there is a remedy that I have been slack in doing, and that is using castor oil packs..edgar cayce's remedy.

harmony

Sweet lips
04-12-2005, 07:06 AM
Harmony,

Thank you so much - I will try them. I had read place them on the stomach, however, should I place it just on the arm?

Revvell
04-12-2005, 08:01 AM
Just a quickie here. I've gotten Carol Alt's book. She admits to being 70% raw. There is a difference between raw vegan and her lifestlye. As one here said, raw vegan does not consist of raw meat and dairy.

My suggestion, if the tumor is benign, do the 30-day totally raw vegan challenge, and let us know what happens. That way, you'll have done the experiment and have something to report.

Also, IF you have other healthy challenges, be sure to write them down ~ aches and pains, skin problems, asthma, etc. Be sure to write them down so you can, after 30 days, see what has changed. When someone has a "condition" and it heal or goes away, folk tend to forget it ~ unless it's written down and they can go back and go ~ oh! I'd forgotten about that since I don't hurt (or whatever) anymore!!! Awesome!!!!

As far as the consumption of dairy ~ my feeling on that is yes, it's a big "no-no". The thing with dairy is, it was meant for the baby of the mother it came from. It was never meant as food for humans. From my experience, it's one of the biggest causes of health problems I know of ~ wheat being the second. Here's my suggestion again ~ if you really wish to know IF this food program works for you, don't "drop" the dairy, just don't drink it for 30 days, see how you feel. You know, you can always drink it again if you feel to.

Injoy ~

Revvell

Sharon in Colorado
04-12-2005, 09:00 AM
I've read about people shrinking their tumors while doing mono-mealing. Some might call it a sort of fast. One fellow ate nothing but watermelon for a period of time. Something you might want to look into.