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Seren
06-19-2007, 03:15 AM
Hey,

I was wondering whether to order dark or light agave? Whats the difference?

Any help appreciated :D

Love Seren x x x

LightLover
06-19-2007, 03:40 AM
Light..I think the Dark is cooked.....

Are you sure spicefull, I have never read that. I thought the dark one is the real stuff..? :confused:

LL

Seren
06-19-2007, 03:53 AM
Hey, I looked it up on the website and the dark agave is the unfiltered, unheated more nutrient rich one so I went with that! Thanks for your replies so quickly though!

Love Seren x x x

LightLover
06-19-2007, 03:59 AM
Lightlovers have to be quick..:p

Oh, the dark one is also more tasty!

LL

Seren
06-19-2007, 04:08 AM
Yay! Im glad I ordered that one then :D

Can't wait to get it! I also ordered Coconut water from the fresh network, and from shazzies site I ordered her Empress raw chocolate bar (vegan) and raw chocolate powder!!

I'm so excited to get my orders! First time ordering proper real raw stuff, I've always had to settle for non-raw chocolate powder or agave... hehehe :p

Its hard to contain my excitement, sorry!

Love Seren x x x

lavendarJ
06-19-2007, 04:25 AM
I always wondered; I buy mine from one of our local grocers and I always get the darker (amber colored) agave because it is always labeled as "raw" while the other is simply labeled as agave....

By the way, your thread just reminded me that I am out of agave as of this past Sunday...thanks:)

mattm
06-19-2007, 04:28 AM
Hi Seren, congrats on your purchases...only problem now once you taste this stuff there is no going back:D Start with a small bit of the cocoa though because some people react quite a lot to its caffeine and theobromine content and their stimulant effects. Though, I don't have a single problem with it, use it daily and I can tell you now if you ever wanted the most define tasting GS in the world just put in some cocoa and your in serious heaven!! Oh and the coconut water...wow, the taste of this stuff really permeates through if added as a base instead of water or in addition to water in a GS...seriously good stuff and a little goes a long way.

All the best and all I can say is....enjoy big time:D

LightLover
06-19-2007, 04:43 AM
Hi Seren, I just wanted to start a thread about this coconut-water.
I did send a mail to Dr MArtin's, because the water is raw, but the package is not showing this...

You will see my mail in the thread "going further than newstarget..."
in a few minutes.

I think this is one of the best drinks you can buy in package anywhere, except of cause the really fresh ones. Or anyone knows something better...?

They sell it in a little store in my town..:D , did you taste the one with
acerola and pineapple?

Seren, you can also buy YACON. This is laso sweet, and it gives you not calories, because the saccharides are not digested by the ody, but your body uses them as a prebiotic! How do you think about this product MattM,
have you ever used the powder or only the syrup?


LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 05:42 AM
Hi Lightlover, I use yacon a lot and think it is wonderful. I've recommended it a few times on this forum already and to RAWCA in connection with low GI green smoothie ingredients. Personally I don't even mix it into the smoothie I just love drizzling to over the top of my soup/smoothie at the end....yum big time!! It isn't as sweet as honey but can be used far more liberally....it's heaven for diabetics which I rountinely advise to for as an alternative sweetner. The reason it's so good for diabetics is due to the unique sugars in it and (instead of me writing an essay on this which I could do :D) I refer you to the ever exellent Detox Your World website http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/yacon_syrup.html where lots of interesting science stuff about this can be read. I think for you guys in the US (as I see Alissa doesn't stock it, otherwise buy off her :D) maybe rawfood.com (Sunfood Nutrition) sells it.

I agree about the coconut water...it's the best...just wish it was less expensive and then could live off it:D ...thaanks for sending the email I never checked the packaging as I always read on the website that it was raw when purchased it.

I love all these products so much, whether it be yacon, maca, coconut water, cocoa, purple corn extract, pure synergy, mesquite meal, lucuma, manuka honey, carob etc, because....other than being wonderful for you and transforming you health wise....they are all different unique flavours that 99% world will never experience and that, along with all the conventional fruit and veg, is one reason this diet is so exciting and enthralling for me (and my taste buds:D ).

All the best

LightLover
06-19-2007, 05:58 AM
Hi Mattm, still don't know if you use Yaconpowder or syrup?
I can buy both here, but never tasted it. Are there important differences?


I pay 1.69 GBP for 1 package of the coconut drink (or 2.5 euro), is that expensive?

If you advice diabetics to eat Yacon, tell them also to add a little Cinnamon, great for diabetics! (But I think you already did so...)

Did you know 1/8 of all healtcaredollars in the us go to the problem of diabetics? Shall we ask 1 promille to solve the problem..? :D

LL :)

mattm
06-19-2007, 06:31 AM
Sorry LightLover, I have only ever used the syrup...the taste is very subtle if your used to sweetners like honey but it does have a unique molass type flavour to it (plus all the benefits mentioned). The only difference can see with the powder...can't drizzle...gotta love that drizzling:D MAYBE you could argue that the powder is just the ground root so it's more natural than the syrup which usually involves more processing...got to say dunno about this one:confused: Quite honestly love the syrup, works superbly for me so sticking with it but imagine both equally as good. Oh and don't get me started on the whole money spent on diabetes, health probs etc and drugs we put into people to ???solve??? these issues. I'll never forget, and you guys have all probably had this experience or similar, the time when I went to a doctor asked about diet making a difference to all the problems suffered from as a young teen...said that what I ate would make no difference ...and then perscribed me a pill to do what with but TO EAT:confused: At the end of the day food looked at in the simplist way is a collection of chemicals, natural ones, that make up of the constituents of life and how on earth (of all people) doctors don't see food as medicine but do synthetic chemicals (effectively synthetic food) in what they call drugs...is beyond me. I mean have you ever seen an animal in nature with type 2 diabetes, acne, osterperosis etc which humans just see as 'part of the course'? Life is simple, nature gives it in abundance...we just decide to throw it in an oven and destroy it! Anyway, bit of a rant over(!!), postman has just arrived with my superfood order (party time!) of cocoa, maca and purple corn. By the way LightLover (and indeed everyone out there) please if you get a chance try purple corn (it has an tremendous amount of antioxidants seen just from its intense purple colour) and tastes divine...quite sweet infact. Also it lasts forever...a tsp or less will turn any green smoothie deep purple and the taste will come through. By the way, I get my coconut water for £2.49 each here so you've got a good deal...also it is very expensive when you get through it at the rate I do :D.

All the best.

Matthew

LightLover
06-19-2007, 07:30 AM
Thanks Mattm, i will try both variants of Yacon and let you know!

The coconut water is also good to show to your palls, as an alternative for alcohol!

I can get fresh young coconuts here sometimes for 1.25-1.5 eur, but sometimes you don't want all the meat. And I guess the package will be approaching the freshness of the real coconuts, because they travel a long time...

I forgot to tell you: there is on this board an old thread from me about the synergy company; I am not 100% enthausiastic about them (well, they partialy are lying..)

Do you use the purple corn extract or the powder?
Did you see the thread on this board about purple corn?

LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 07:58 AM
Yeah, that'll be a good day...walk into a pub and get your regular pint or shot of coconut water!! I don't think I've met a single person yet from the SADDEST of eaters to the least that don't enjoy the Dr. Martin's Drink.

I remember reading there is quite a lot of controversy on whether or not Pure Synergy is 10% raw becuase apparently the preparation of some of the Chinese herbs I think involves tempertaures exceeding those acceptable. All I can say is that I've tried a lot of green powders and mixes and I've never had the results that Pure Synergy gives. I can't remember if they actually claim to have 100% raw food but the benefits to me from listening to my body tell me its works for me. Though I've heard David Wolfe's and Alissa's of course are amazing and if I was over in the US I would use these....another reason to move:D. Plus of course when I move I can go to NY and charge hundreds of dollars for layered smoothie alternatives to Kobe beef and employ you:D

As for the purple corn thread...I can't remeber seeing one though I have faint memory of something involving confusing between maybe this product and purple yams...which thread are you referring to? Oh and by the way, I use the powder which I routinely add to my green smoothies and particularly like to add a dash of at the end of making a green smoothie and pouring into a bowl for a colourful contrast. I know you can also get the flour and whole kernels and create purple corn juice by soaking...great fun. The other reason love it is because it comes in useful for making my Rainbow Delight smoothie and is one of the reasons I ordered some so (after I get just a few final things) I can post a pic of it for you guys...can't wait:)

All the best

Matthew

LightLover
06-19-2007, 08:34 AM
The coconut drink is also quite low in carbs (5% or even lower..) and almost no fat and protein!

I was more referring to the vitamins of the synergy company: they start with synthetical ones (so called "USP"), and then "change" them into biotransformed ingredients or so, using a "natural environment" of yeast.
Of course this was not in text on the package..:eek: ..

Did you "google" purple&corn on this forum?

Shall we apply to a cycling team, with all these superfoods and rawfood programms, and then we will make the first Tour the France winner, based on raw food and RAINBOWSMOOTHIES ? What about RAWATHLETES.COM?


LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 09:16 AM
Wow, thanks LL for the info on Pure Synergy...this is new to me...curious why it has managed to have such a brilliant effect on my health though compared to others:confused: and terrible that they don't tell you this...guess it wouldn't look good as usual. Do you use a green powder mix, if so, which?

By the way (I was going to start a separate thread on this) don't know if you saw this in the news the other day (being a fellow European) but EU standards have been further lowered on organic food which...wait for it...can now still be labelled as free from GMO's even if they contain up to 0.9% GMO's:eek: Their justification for this...it would cost too much to make force organic foods to be 100% (or anything lower than 0.9%) GMO free...it's so sad to see. That's why I'll continue to grow my own fruit and veg and infact today (got back from uni for summer a few days ago) went down into garden and picked my ingredients for my green smoothie lunch, including some russian kale which was just phenomenal...now this is food, not the supermarket stuff that could now contain all these GMO's and gone around the globe.

Did the search on purple corn and found a sunscreen thread that you posted on and Davlp25's info on it. I read up on it a lot and know the science stuff but the recipes look good and I've tried the kernels before and like the juice they create but I also like the powder which I've had amazing results with...next time I make a purchase probably try the kernels again.

Love the idea about RAWATHLETES.COM, I've got a few mountains up here in Nothern England that I could use for training:) and with my involvement in film and TV could get a crew to film :D Plus with all this surplus of energy I've got at the moment and feeling like could run a marathon every day, I need someway of using it. I'm only ever needing 6 hours max of sleep at the moment...gotta love this food don't we!

Thanks again for the info..very enlightening.

Matthew

LightLover
06-19-2007, 09:40 AM
Haha, believe it or not, I was just planning to ask you how much you sleep on the green smoothie diet. I sometimes brainstorm with 2 guys here (raw)
and they also can go through a night without sleep. They sell all kind of products (www.mastercare.nl) and sometimes I taste new stuff.
They are cool and crazy guys.
I think maybe the product you use from the Synergy company, doesn't have the same strange source (synthetic) as their vitamin-product.
Or are there vitamins in it? I will tell you if I know which powder I like best.


LL

Seren
06-19-2007, 02:35 PM
Hi Matt, thanks for your suggestions! I will certainly try it in my green smoothies :D

Hey LL, no I havent tried the acerola and pineapple coconut water, sounds interesting! I don't know if they sell it in the UK?

Wow the yacon sounds amazing! I will buy that next time!

Love Seren x x x

Veganforlife
06-19-2007, 02:37 PM
Alissa just got some in her store. I've ordered some. I trust her getting the real RAW stuff.

LightLover
06-19-2007, 03:00 PM
Hey LL, no I havent tried the acerola and pineapple coconut water, sounds interesting! I don't know if they sell it in the UK?



Hmm, you should ask MAttM..:D

LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 04:14 PM
Saw post about the acercola and pineapple coconut water and went to Dr. Martins' website and it looks great...yum:D Took some time but Seren you'll be glad to know I eventually managed to find a UK source for this stuff at http://www.face-of-flowers-organic.co.uk/organic-soft-drink.html ...just scroll down the page and you'll see it. Thanks LightLover for bringing this up, only ever knew about Dr. Martins' water and milk drinks...something else for my taste buds:D Oh and Seren just saw that Shazzie is now offering 100g of maca (wonderful stuff...malty taste) free with every purchase of 10 cartoons of the Dr. Martins' Coconut water...I'm sold!

All the best.

Matthew

LightLover
06-19-2007, 04:19 PM
Saw post about the acercola and pineapple coconut water and went to Dr. Martins' website and it looks great...yum:D Took some time but Seren you'll be glad to know I eventually managed to find a UK source for this stuff at http://www.face-of-flowers-organic.co.uk/organic-soft-drink.html ...just scroll down the page and you'll see it. Thanks LightLover for bringing this up, only ever knew about Dr. Martins' water and milk drinks...something else for my taste buds:D

All the best.

Matthew

That's the one I bought last Saturday...It is very good, and < 5% carbs..
Oh, they also have coco cream I think :eek: !

I will look it the shop and tell next week.

Hey matt, I wrote in a thread a couple of hours ago about rawathletes, and than suddenly RAWDURIANRIDER appears on this forum.

Strange coincidence, isn't it? IT IS ALL HAPPENING NOW!

LL

LightLover
06-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Oh, Mattm, somehow I think you might like this thread, for your information-thirst. I know it has nothing to do with the current thread..:D

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=27282&page=3&highlight=cayenne

LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 04:29 PM
LightLover is the coconut cream the same as Dr.Martins' coconut milk http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/coco_milk.html ? If it is, I've had this this and huge thumbs up:) ...this stuff is gorgeous...and people think raw is just lettuce and carrot sticks!

Yeah saw RAWDURIANRIDER had joined, definitely got the ball rolling here...all I say...bring on Tour de Raw:D

Matthew

LightLover
06-19-2007, 04:41 PM
LightLover is the coconut cream the same as Dr.Martins' coconut milk http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/coco_milk.html ? If it is, I've had this this and huge thumbs up:) ...this stuff is gorgeous...and people think raw is just lettuce and carrot sticks!



I am not very sure. I will seek out.

I tried today to get the stuff it into another shop, more on my route, but they are hesitating. But I will convince them, I will wait for the new package-layout, I also talked the rawfoodbar into this shop, and they sell very well! ..:D

LL

mattm
06-19-2007, 04:56 PM
Just read the cayenne pepper thread, that's some great info there...I think that's about the entire of Wikipedia on there:D As for the bit here you say to that guy in the shop "if you REALLY are I guy, you have to make a juice with Madame Jeanette pepper..." I feel sorry for him if he actually does this, he must have done or said something to deserve this...can it be LightLover is turnig to the Dark:D Brings back memories (VERY BAD memories) of time started out on raw and downed a glass of pure leek juice:eek: ...stills make me shudder!

Matthew

Seren
06-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Hey matt, thanks for finding that drink!! I have added it to my favourites in my folder titled 'wish list' so I order it next time!! LOL

Also, thanks for informing me about the offer on the coconut water and free maca!! I'll have to order some in too!! :D

Love Seren x x x

LightLover
06-19-2007, 05:45 PM
Mattm, I actualy didn't say it like this, I am not so rough I think...

I received answer from dr martins, it is in the going further than newstarget thread.


LL

mattm
06-20-2007, 01:28 AM
Sorry if i misread LL, thought you guys were having a very late April Fools Day over there in the Netherlands or something:D Also happy misread it for guy's sake!!! Anyway, that's a great result with your email to Dr. Martins' and you should definitely ask to be an employee with payment in free coconut water methinks:D

Glad you appreciate the info Seren...must feel like there are a million things out there want to get your hands on with all us guys rabbiting on about different superfoods? Lots to look forward to and they all taste so wonderful. Oh and just something about the maca...some people hate this stuff, likening it to dirt and probably think I'm crazy for eating it by the spoonful...so it really is marmite stuff, either you'll love it or hate it...be interesting to see what you think:D

Well all the best...my breakfast cocoa, maca, apple, cucumber, spinach, romaine lettuce, pure synergy, flaxseed oil and maybe manuka honey (one of my Achielles' Heals:) ) green smoothie awaits...major yum!!

Seren
06-20-2007, 03:05 AM
LOL!

I hope the offer lasts a while coz it may be a couple of weeks before I can order it. I love the taste of malt so Im hoping that I will like it... even if I don't I can always put it in a smoothie and try and hide the taste!

Thanks for warning me!!

Love Seren x x x

LightLover
06-20-2007, 04:53 AM
Hi Mattm, * you did read my thread correctly, what I wanted to say is that I gave a mild version of the thread (Madame Jeanette pepper) in the shop.


* You could ask all the natureshops around you to take the coco drink in their
assortiment (come with arguments..) I always do this, and sometimes
they do so! By this you create your own rawfood-environment, very close to you
(locale shopping!)

* If you use mesquite and lucuma; do you use them combined or seperate?
* Same question for agave and Yacon: combined or seperate?
Do these ingredients enhance eachother taste's, or would the combination be overdone?

Thanks , LL

LightLover
06-20-2007, 06:05 AM
Mattm, which Manuka do you consume? Regular one, or the expensive (:o )
one with UPF-factor?


LL

LightLover
06-20-2007, 06:43 AM
Mattm, do you think it is technically possible (with the vacuum and ultrafiltration technique) for dr martins, also to make orangejuice, just the way he makes coco drink? Just curious to know


LL

mattm
06-20-2007, 07:07 AM
Hi LightLover, got back from a trip to the weekly farmer's market (perk of being home now) and what a haul...some great green smoothies to come:D and stocked up well (live under mountains in countryside so not much close by but sheep!!). Got, among other things, local apples, pak choy (a def love of mine), rainbow chard (more rainbow stuff:D ) and the most tender asparagus ever seen...and people actually cook this stuff:confused:

Funny mentioned about getting store to stock the coconut drink, had small success last time home for holidays when managed to get health store to start getting in maca...definitely next time get into town be campaining for the drink..thinking might take some with me so they can taste for themselves how good it is!!

As for the lucuma and mesquite combo...I feel they have very delicious unique flavours and the mesquite powder can be quite overpowering so I like to keep them separate and indulge in either one. Though I see for instance in Shazzie's Goddess bar http://www.detoxyourworld.com/acatalog/goddess.html she combines these two products to what i can only imagine great success if shes selling it!! I would imagine it's all amount of ratios with less mesquite to lucuma so you get both flavours permeating through...sounds like I've got some experimenting to do:) But as I said I like to enjoy all these superfoods and there uniqe flavours by themselves and this was one of the major benefits of...yes...layered smoothies. I love the way with these you can taste I deeply bitter cocoa layer, a wonderful sweet lucuma layer, an intense green layer etc. Infact I make a triple layered smoothie where one layer has lucuma in it, another mesquite and another green....yummy. I also have the same feelings concerning yacon and agave...espeially with yacon having such a subtle flavour that 99% time I don't even mix into my smoothies because the flavour can be 'lost' so instead I just drizzle liberally over the top at the end so I get a 'hit' of its flavour with my first spoonful!!

Oh and the manuka honey...i've got the Comvita UMF 15+ expensive stuff (got 3 jars for birthday) and this I soooooo recommend...it has the most deeply rich sweet flavour ever and just the smallest amount will permeate throughout the entire smoothie...a definite treat!

All the best

Matthew

LightLover
06-20-2007, 07:44 AM
Hi MAttm. I also use the Manuka Umf 15+, yes it is quite impressive.
Thanks for your combining-info

LL

mattm
06-20-2007, 02:52 PM
LightLover, regarding combining the ingredients you asked about, just found this youtube Shazzie video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xylmc0M4f9w&mode=related&search=) for her "Go Go Go Chew" cake recipe which encorporates lucuma and mesquite meal in a ratio of 2:1 for the base and 1.5:1 for the topping. These ratios, especially for the base, sounds sensible to me from experience of having tried the comparative intensity of these two products. Also on Shazzie's second youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MklPR2B0YfQ&mode=related&search=) mentions interestingly in her mesquite meal description the chemicals in it work extremely well with cocoa's...and there was me combining them in my smoothies just because it tastes soooooo good:D Oh and concerning the orange juice idea, might be an idea...guess you should recommend it to your best bud, or should I say employer, Dr. Martins:D

All the best.

Matthew

LightLover
06-20-2007, 04:21 PM
Ha mattm, they charge 40 euro's here for a little Manuka 15+ adn even 60 eur
for 25+ or 30+, I checked today, and I am lucky there was no 15+ anymore, because : ridicule.

I also have placed that clip on this forum (great minds think likewise...).
I love here, wish i was her neighbour...
If you ever make this recipe (well, aren't you very curious?), please let know how it was..

I will ask Dr Martin, IF he mails back..
I also want to ask him wheater ALL the tastes (see below) are processed
via the "raw" way.

BTW: they have: coco drink, coco drink with banana, coco drink with acerola
and banana, and coco cream! I think there is even a fifth.

BTW: did you ever use "esprit de cacao" in your chocsmoothie?
Not raw, but it is just a few drops....


LL



I hope I can get them all and tell you how it was


LL

LightLover
06-20-2007, 04:44 PM
Oh, Mattm, now we are talking about superfoods:

what about: "extra vierge olive oil with white or black truffle"?
Maybe not a real superfood, but very interesting, and a connection with the SAD-world.

On what would you use this (outside the "smoothie-world)?
And in which layer of your rainbow-smoothie will you use this combined with
...what :) ?

LL

mattm
06-20-2007, 04:54 PM
Yeah Manuka is VERY expensive though luckily, as I said, you don't need much of it at all as it is so sweet and we all need the occassional treat:D By the way, 40 euros...how much Manuka is that for? Mine sells for £15.95 per 250g but got it cheaper as discount was on...couldn't pass up chance!

I'll be sure to experiment with Shazzie's recipe...looks delicish...I think it's got practically every superfood she sells in it, must pack a hell of a punch...and you thought my layered smoothie were costly!

I checked out Dr. Martins' websie and saw the different products you mentioned and at first seeing them was slightly hesitant with regards to whether or not the fruit mixes were raw or not with the fruit coming from concentrate...great if you found out. For moment if want banana or pineapple flavoured coconut water then will be sticking to blending a banana or a pineapple with normal coconut water...simple, natural and definitely raw! Also noticed his coconut cream has sugar (which I assume is refined) and that puts me off.

Haven't ever used "esprit de cacao", i assume from suggesting this when it isn't raw that i must be missing out big time?!!!

All the best.

Matthew

LightLover
06-20-2007, 05:15 PM
if was definitely < 250g..:mad:


"Haven't ever used "esprit de cacao", i assume from suggesting this when it isn't raw that i must be missing out big time?!!!"

Your smoothie would still be 99.9999% raw or so...
Sometime I will study if it is worth using (with cacao and superfoods...)


LL

mattm
06-20-2007, 05:34 PM
I personally haven't tried extra virgin olive oil with white or black truffle but I can imagine that it would have a nutty flavour to it. Therefore outside the smoothie-world:eek:, off the top of my head, this might work beautifully in a pesto recipe (which usually has a nutty taste to it from cashews, pine nuts etc)...something along the lines of: fresh basil, the truffle olive oil, lemon, touch of sea salt and black pepper, lemon, cashews and some garlic mixed in a food processor...could be lovely poured over some courgette and/or butternut squash spaghetti or even kelp noodles as I now see are available (then again I just invented this now so could be horrible!). Also possibility of using it in some sort of nut pate to complement all that nuttiness! As for the smoothies (back on home ground:D ) I find 2tbsp (usaul amount of oil i.e.fat I include and I find optimal in a smoothie) of olive oil very intense and needs strong flavours to mix with it otherwises it dominates. Again, haven't done this before as haven't got this oil, but might be interesting mixed with cocoa and chili pepper which I blend together quite often with other oils...the fat of the oil would help calm the firiness of the pepper and add a nutty dimension whilst being strong enough in flavour to match up to the classic combination of chili pepper and chocolate. I already make a layered smoothie of chili pepper chocolate layer (which packs a hell of punch:D ) and a very intense sweet (mainly fruit-based) layer...that's a knock out literally...a great contrast in intense flavours and heat! Man....so many recipes to make and photo for you guys (and send into Alissa's recipe book!).

All the best

Matthew

mattm
06-20-2007, 05:41 PM
What....Manuka under 250g for 40 euros:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Your joking...that's ridiculous. The company selling it must be making a fortune.

LightLover
06-20-2007, 05:53 PM
I think the lady in the shop makes a fortune..:p

Do you know this stuff:

Lo Han Kuo

I just did find it googling for something else (Yacon)

seems interesting stuff, isn't it ?


LL

mattm
06-21-2007, 06:15 AM
Thanks LightLover I had discovered Lo Han Kuo a while back and very excited about it, tried to find a organic supplier and whether raw but struggled...I'd totally forgotren about it. I read up on the info saved about it and reminded myself how good sounds....apparently according to the source found "Chinese fruit in the cucumber, melon, squash, and gourd family... Isolated compounds are rated at being between 230 and 425 times sweeter than sucrose. The whole dried fruit is 300 times sweeter than sucrose"....wow...up to 425 times sweeter but great for diabetics...sounds like a dream. Here's the link I saved (and forgot about http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:NPmCMZD10hQJ:wss.nourishingconnecti ons.org/Events/2005-08-13.pdf+Lo+Han+Kuo+raw&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8.

All the best and thanks again...another thing to add to the very long shopping list:D

Matthew

mattm
06-21-2007, 06:27 AM
Also LL, last night before annoyingly before computer crashed again (definitely getting old methinks) that I've started making the chili pepper and cocoa layered smoothie (with your olive now!...check my post above) also with a greens layer and that it works well very with it. I find that the firiness and generally stimulating effect of the cocoa and chill pepper is contrasted well with the grounding/balancing effect the intense layer of greens has on the body and they complement one another combined in a smoothie well...the things you find from a bit of experimenting. Thought you might find this interesting after your dissatation on cayenne!!

All the best

Matthew

LightLover
06-21-2007, 06:27 AM
Well, we are never finsished Mattm, I think...?

What about "extra vierge olive oil with white or balck truffle"?

I don't know if I already did post about this.

Would you know a recipe to use this, outside the smoothies?
And if with smoothies, with what would you combine for an extra layer in the rainbowsmoothie?



LL

LightLover
06-21-2007, 06:28 AM
What about this information from jamesfarell in the sexdrive thread?
(The article of James is longer than I have put here)
Are all our powders unpure/dead?

Do yourselves a favor with the macca and all the other sex supplements. Save your money. Your drive will come back. Keep up on the fluids. The stuff they sell is so unpure, your better off taking a tablespoon of sugar. By the time this macca gets to you, it's deader then a door nail.

LL

mattm
06-21-2007, 06:42 AM
LL I take maca for energy, stamina and the effect it has on balancing hormones and, all I can speak from is experience, but it works for me. After having this stuff...other than tasting real good...it has had a big effect on me...I feel much more energetic and my skin showed real improvements almost immediately when started taking this all that time ago. Every other day it seems now there is an article from someone debating the quality of asubstance, whether it's raw or not and then an opposite article saying it is the next best thing...as always there is stuff out there on this world wide web of ours to support just about every argument out there. I had my doubts about these products...some don't produce the effects others do and I don't use them anymore...but some do and whatever makes me feel the way I'm at the moment and has got me achieving this level of health I'm going to continue to use. Just do what works for you and listen to that wisest of nutritional gurus out there...our own bodies.

All the best

Matthew

LightLover
06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
Yep, that is indeed the only criterium,


Best, LL

mattm
06-21-2007, 07:21 AM
I want to add LL, that i too was curious about the potency of these superfood powders and whether they really did make a differense, so over the years I have stopped using them e.g. introduced maca and after couple of months stopped using it for a while) and I noticed a SIGNIFICANT impact on my general health, ususally energy related and upon reintroduction HUGE benefits. I'm 20 now, only been 100&#37; raw (give and take a few herbal teas) for a year and after what was 16 yrs of extreme SAD food (started introducing raw gradually when 16) my body has had A LOT more time of abuse than it has of healing. Superfoods help quicken this healing and fill in all those tremendous nutritional deficiencies which iis why at first they have such a profound effect on people's bodies usually becuase there is SUCH A GREAT NEED FOR THEM. I imagine over years of raw I will heal my body of that 16yrs of particularly bad abuse and my body will dtart having a less of deman for the superfoods and their effect on me less profund (though that's not to say their precious nutrients and minerals are not important for one second as a lot of conventional fruit and veg is now highly lacking nutritionally and especially mineeral wise because of evr decreasing farming practices and general decreasing standards). Also, there isn't forgetting the novel tastes they bring to our wonderful lifestyle, the first time I tried cocoa powder, purple corn extract, maca, mesquite meal, lucuma....wow....absolutely divine...even if they weren't as good for you as they were made out to be I would get them just for the wonderful diversity they bring to our cuisine.

Just some thoughts and all the best

Matthew

LightLover
06-21-2007, 07:38 AM
Wonderfull! I remember the first time in amsterdam someone opened
a fresh coconut for me (just 2 years ago, before that I never did see it here!)
and I was just astonished by the juicetaste and the flesh.

Via newstarget, I did see the product "gelatinized maca" today, seems very interesting. Strange times, everyday something new, where is the rest:p ..?

It's a kind of immediate recognition, just like with beauty.

Cheers, LL

mattm
06-21-2007, 09:21 AM
LightLover saw the gelatinized maca a while back but enjoy taste of maca so much stuck with the powder, also feel it's more natural. You can also get liquid maca extract which Shazzie sells, noticed has organic alcohol in it...no wonder packs such a punch!! What I'm waiting to become available over here, that you can get in the US, is the even more potent form of maca powder called maca extreme http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi?id=984995423458-1544&d=single&item_id=0903&m=home and another variety red maca which can be found at the following wonderful (unfortunately US) raw produce site http://www.naturalzing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25_47&products_id=821 ...again so much to try!

Also, after talking about doing what works for you, being able to find info to support virtually any point of view etc.... I felt compelled to right a piece on the new 'teen and young adult forum' about this as I feel very strongly about it and all this conflictng info that can be hugely confusing for especially newbies...might want to check out http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?p=289269#post289269.

All the best.

Matthew

LightLover
06-21-2007, 09:33 AM
Stop! (kidding..:D )

LL

mattm
06-21-2007, 11:49 AM
And there was me wondering how long we could keep this thread going:D

Matthew

spiralgirl
06-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Seren,

I buy the brand MadHava Agave Nectar and there is both a light and dark that are not raw. They have one out that specifically says it is raw which I just bought. The other ones that aren't raw are cooked at higher temperatures and the raw one is at a really low temperature. It's on the website but I e-mailed them as well. www.madhavahoney.com/agave.htm

HTH :)

Oops sorry I see the original post was an older date and I can't delete this so maybe it will help someone.