bone help needed

[BDraw]

:( I just had a osteoporosis risk analysis done and am not happy with the results. . . I am high risk for bone diminishment. . .so I've come to ask for advice. . . any ideas what I should eat more of? I know seseame seed and almonds and greens are good for calcium.

And I know weight bearing excerises. Any other ideas?

I am very surprised with this result as I am big boned, or at least thought I was, then again, maybe I used that excuse for carrying around more weight. My mom does have osteoporosis, so maybe I shouldn't be so shocked, but I am the biggest of the three sisters and finally (before this test) found a reason to be appreciative about being the biggest.

You think if I make myself a daily super green smoothie with seseame seed and nibble on almonds instead of walnuts that maybe I'll improve?

I need advice, got any?

[Rawkinlocs]

BDraw, I am going to post the link and a few excerpts from an article that came out a while back from a study done on raw vegans that showed that they DID have lower bone mass...BUT...the bones were HEALTHY! See below...

http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4971.html

"Vegetarians who don't cook their food have abnormally low bone mass, usually a sign of osteoporosis and increased fracture risk. But a research team at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis also found that raw food vegetarians have other biological markers indicating their bones, although light in weight, may be healthy."

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"Those on the raw food diet had lower body mass indices and significantly lower bone mass in important skeletal regions such as the hip and lumbar spine, sites where low bone mass often means osteoporosis and fracture risk. But they didn't have other biological markers that typically accompany osteoporosis.

"For example, it is clear from research that higher rates of bone turnover equate to higher risk of fracture," Fontana says. "But in these people, although their bone mass is low, their bone turnover rates are normal."

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And in spite of the fact that the raw food group didn't drink milk or eat cheese, they had higher vitamin D levels than people on a typical, Western diet. Fontana attributes the vitamin D levels to sun exposure.

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In short, the people on the raw food diet are lighter with lower body fat. They have less bone, but they have normal markers of bone turnover, higher-than-normal vitamin D and very low levels of leptin and inflammatory markers.

So are their bones healthy or not? Fontana says he's not sure. Current clinical measurements would indicate that many in this group have osteoporosis or less severe bone loss called osteopenia. But with low levels of inflammation, normal bone turnover and high vitamin D, Fontana says the usual clinical parameters may not apply.

"For example, post-menopausal, frail women with osetoporosis have low bone mass and an increased risk of fracture," he says. "But they also have increased circulating levels of inflammatory molecules called cyotkines. That's a different biologic condition from what we are seeing in the raw food vegans."

So he is proposing the hypothesis that in spite of their low bone mass, those on raw food diets actually may have a good bone quality and, therefore, healthy bones.

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So yes, get those green smoothies in, sesame seeds but also try to rest assured that you are getting what you need as long as you have a varied raw diet and that while the bone mass may indicate that your bones are getting smaller, that they may still be healthy and strong!

[Ginger]

My very SAD eating friend recently broke his jaw and it just wasn't healing at all. They had him on Ensure and chicken broths and stuff like that. After several visits and still no healing, I started making him smoothies & ice creams at least once a day for less then a week. After a few days he remarked how he could feel his bone growing out of his face and that it wasn't set right. So he went back to the doctor and instead of setting it right they just opened him up and sawwed off the new bone growth. I havn't seen him since then and this was a week or so ago. But just goes to show that eating real food helps bones quick! :D

[Rawkinlocs]

My very SAD eating friend recently broke his jaw and it just wasn't healing at all. They had him on Ensure and chicken broths and stuff like that. After several visits and still no healing, I started making him smoothies & ice creams at least once a day for less then a week. After a few days he remarked how he could feel his bone growing out of his face and that it wasn't set right. So he went back to the doctor and instead of setting it right they just opened him up and sawwed off the new bone growth. I havn't seen him since then and this was a week or so ago. But just goes to show that eating real food helps bones quick! :D

WHOA!! They SAWED OFF his new bone growth?! Yeek! But that IS very interesting and a testimony that all the stuff they had him on and no healing and then with green smoothies and raw ice creams, healing and bone growth took place...COOL :cool: ...thanks for sharing that RVM! :D

[Ginger]

Not even green smoothies. Just fruits is all I gave him. I bet with added greens in the smoothies or even juiced greens would produce even greater results.

[Ginger]

BDraw, I think regular sunlight and moderate weight bearing excercise combined with a diet high in raw plant foods that excludes animal products and anything artificial would no doubt heal the weak bone diagnosis. Probably quicker then you can even imagine.

[Shirleyh]

Try cacao, spirulina, and maca to help with bones.

[mattm]

Hi BDraw, I have a family member who has raised the issue of bone troubles and consequently I've been recently looking into it. Understanding of what helps bone strength is in fact quite interesting and knowledge about it has rapidly progressed. For instance, studies have paved the way for a growing emphasis not on calcium but trace minerals such as silicon which we start losing the moment we are born and is very hard to obtain from foods in the amounts needed even though paradoxically it's one of the most abundant elements on Earth. The same studies show that people on a SAD diet even though consuming more calcium than the RDA still have problems with their bones because of leaching of calcium from their bones into their soft tissue. The trace minerals, especially silicon, are needed in order for proper absorption of the calcium into the bones. Anyway there is a bit to read on this so I'll suggest you go to http://www.harmonicinnerprizes.com/studies/skeletalsupport.html which gives you the general idea and then, by clicking on the links for specific products (e.g. SuperSilica Plus), you can find out a bit more on how specific minerals help. I really hope this is of use.
All the best.

[BDraw]

Wow! Thanks for the feedback.

As much as I'd like to "not worry" and just eat as I think my body is indicating, it is scarey! Especially when I see what bone loss has done to my mom.

I will read all the advised information. Thank you for taking the time to find it for me.

Now my turn to start studying!