day 5 after a 40 day master cleanse.

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

That 40 days had to have gone to a waste.

I cant stop myself from eating, im going to go the next 3 hours before bed without eating. I have to. My stomach hurts so much from the past 2 days.
I eased into food IMO, with 2 days of juice, and then introducing a few new solid RAW foods a day. I guess I was wrong. I wish I could go do another 10 days of the Master Cleanse. Sigh. I have been emotionally eating today, life has been stressfull past few days. Im thankfull its not crappy foods but, I think I have already expanded my stomach. While It aches, I have been getting full during my meals the past 2 days. I dont get full as easy now. I cant get the exercise that people reccomend in. I twisted my ankle about 6 months ago and it still hasnt healed and my back hurts constantly. Also since I started eating I am way too tired to want to do anything... depressed, gaining weight, stomach hurting, giving into old habits with different foods. I cant seem to stop eating the foods Ive begun to eat. I knew the MC was much too easy. This is the hard part and ive never been good at this.

any support would be great, and suggestions.

I miss you MC!!

[spicyfull]

I want to commend you on doing 40 days. Are you drinking enough Water??

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

no, not during the 40 day cleanse, and no.. not now either...

i just dont drink enough water, i hardly drink any.

[lafsalot]

As I said before, it took me quite a while to transition back into raw after a lenghty fast - had the same symptoms you described and that was just from watered down juice and green smoothies. I believe the rule of thumb is - after ten days, every additional two days of fasting requires at least one of transitioning. That would mean at the very least, 20-25 for you.

Obviously, if you are experiencing stomach discomfort, you have been eating too much of the wrong foods - breaking a fast properly is just as important as the pre-fast program and what you do on the fast. Remember, your body's energy was concentrating on ridding itself of all the toxins, not on digestion. You have not only cleaned out all the toxins, but good intestinal flora as well, so it might be a good idea to also start taking probiotics, at least until your digestion is back to normal.

Again, there are a lot of threads on this very subject - you might want to use the search engine for more info. ~ Cathy
Here is some info Misslinda posted - just scroll down to "breaking the fast"
http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=12099&highlight=breaking+a+fast

[trinity082482]

in those 40 days of doing the MC, how much weight did you loose?

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

Today was day 47...

for breakfast I had 1 lime, 1 apple, 1 orange, 1 salad, and maybe some nuts. There might have been something else here

for lunch i had a banana.

and then 5 hours later...

for supper i had, an entire bag of carrots and salsa, a grapefruit, and a lot of nuts... part emotional eating, part i hadnt eaten in 5 hours, part i couldnt stop tasting my salsa.

I cant stop eating the nuts, and im never satisfied with what I ate until im full, being full Is how I know im done. Im never content... I will hide away the nuts tonight thouhh. My stomach is bigger now, ive expanded it:-( and so i can consume much more than normal.

I think maybe ive eaten 1-2 cups of nuts in the past hour :-(

I feel really really bad...

[SchoolOfRAWk]

It's the nuts. Totally.

God. I have to tell you, I have done that before. I WATER-FASTED 34 days, lost 40 lbs, and when I came off, I could NOT stop eating tomatos with sea salt on them. I mean, I could NOT. I did EVERYTHING wrong. Waterfasting, above all kinds of fasting, just sets you up for a binge. I no longer even recommend it. For more reasons than that, but it is VERY hard.

I have totally broken so many fasts wrong it's ridiculous.

This time I just can't. I just CANNOT. I totally feel for you. Honestly. After that 34 day fast I water fasted another week after a week of breaking it poorly (bad bad bad, this is years ago), but honestly, I would try only eating between noon and 8pm, doing liquids before and after (even some mc lemonades) and also doing fruit. I plan on filling my fridge with fruit and being a fat-free fruitarian for at least a week or two, honestly. I would have to. I also need to start working out. That helps, too.

Remember, as bad as you FEEL, you canNOT undo 40 days of cleansing with 1 or 2 days of eating too many nuts, so DON'T let it snowball. I have done that before because you FEEL SO BAD. Remember that even a SALAD feels bad after the high of fasting, and digests long and makes you tired and slow... that is NORMAL for fasting, period. So don't let that get the best of you and keep sliding. When you wake up, drink green smoothie until satisfied. Remove all nuts from your house. Like put them in the basement freezer or a friends freezer, HONESTLY.

You can do it.

Please know that others of us have been there and know how you feel. You can pull through this.

Erica

[tweety]

WATERMELON and CANTALOUPE

these 2 foods are excellent for ending a fast because they have high water content, require chewing to initiate glandular activity in secretion of digestive juices.

Go get a giant watermelon and sit yourself outside in the sun and chow down on it... Drink all the water in it. it is delicious. Bathe in the sun while you do this and it may help you calm down.
BREATHE a lot too.

Juice the Cantaloupe and add Cinnamon to it... it is like pure heaven.
I would add green juices to your diet if i were you... especially on a post-fast.
Stop eating Carrots and high-fiber foods and bulky stuff immediately.
youre not gaining weight, it is food that is stopping up in your intestines that makes you feel like yorue gaining.
it sounds like youve woken up the giant within with a crash rather than with the smell of a rose.

Other natural digestive herbs: Fennel, Cinnamon, Garlic, Cayenne.

Fennel tea can soothe your tummy. Get some seeds and strain in a hot tea.
Also eat the seeds.

Also.. STOP the bananas unless you are making them in smoothies w/ lots of water. they barely have any water content in them.

Green salads are ok as long as you are chugging water. add SPROUTS to them or just eat a pack of sprouts by themselves... The sooner you simplify your food combinations the better.

You might want to consider getting a book on fasting and learning how to best do them and in coming down. Education is the key here.

hope you feel ok.

[SchoolOfRAWk]

I will have to try cantaloupe cinnamon.

My passion is CANTALOUPE GINGER.

And watermelon-cayenne juice!

:)

[SchoolOfRAWk]

tweety -

I'm very educated on fasting and still can make the same mistakes as she is making.

What we know and what we feel overrided to do sometimes are 2 very different things! lol!

[tweety]

tweety -

I'm very educated on fasting and still can make the same mistakes as she is making.

What we know and what we feel overrided to do sometimes are 2 very different things! lol!

Hey SoR -
I didnt mean to insinuate you are uneducated on fasting :o but I have seen a lot of posts by irhxcbcziuzxs in the past week and most of them have given me the impression they are only asking for information on this board when they may not have done any other sort of reading on the subject matter.

I guess it just astounds me to see someone do a long 40day cleanse and seem to scramble last minute for help and not have a back-up plan on what exactly to eat on the breaking point....

if my impressions are incorrect i apologize

thats all
~Tweet

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

Hi everyone... today seems to be going slightly better, but not by much.

I bought some raisins today, bad move on my part cause now i cant stop eating those, and i had my g/f hide my nuts last night. Wont even try looking for them. I bought a whole bunch of strawberries, and i ate a ton. Ate quite a few more carrots and salsa again. Also another salad with lime juice for dressing w/ some olive oil. Ate half a lemon. Juiced the other half of the lemon and drank it in water, Juiced a whole grapefruit and drank it in water. Had a banana somewhere today, probably for breakfast. It seems if its not nuts its a different food and im eating all day, and im eating a ton... bah

[Morn]

Anything is going to seem like a ton after fasting for 40 days. When you eat raw you generally will eat more than on a SAD diet but remember the calories in a lot of what you mentioned are not high. If you are truely hungry don't worry about it! Also remember your caloric needs being a guy your size and having more muscle mass then us woman will be more!

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

Im going to write down everything I eat tomarrow
I just assume eating a whole bag of carrots
and half a bag of raisins is bad... and a box of strawberries (small box)

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

IM assuming today I ate

1 lemon (1/2 juiced)
1 lime (juiced)
1 grapefruit (juiced)
1 banana (or 2)
2 pears
20 strawberries
1 salad with romaine lettuce and spinach
1/2 pound of raisins (i had about half a bag and the weight of the bag is close to a pound
1 bag of carrots (in a bag there are 5 servings, and 3oz per serving) (with salsa for dip)

its not that i feel bad physically, its i feel bad emotionally, i feel like im eating too much.

OH MY GOODNESS

no more olive oil for me thanks...

i went to fit day, and i was at about 4% fats, 1 tablespoon of olive oil on my salad brought up my fats to 16%

I consumed somewhere around 1205 calories today, probably some more, i had to estimate with some things and couldnt add in my salsa.

1205 calories (maybe 1400 with salsa)

Fat - 16%
Sat - 2%
Poly - 2%
Mono - 9%
Carbs - 79%
Fiber - 0%
Protein 5%
Alcohol - 0%

My stomach doesnt really hurt anymore, just slight disturbances on occassion, the worrying part is that im not able to stop eating, and im eating more and more each day. This would have been much worse if my g/f didnt hide the nuts.

What can I do to shrink my stomach back down, im thinking... when im at the end of the raw food diet, i can do something...

[misslinda]

Sorry to bud in here....I don't post much these days but this is one subject of fasting I stress over and over in the book/manual I am writing b/c it is possible to do more harm than good.


What an interesting ID name! :p

Congratulations on your fasting of 40 days!


Transitioning back into foods is a very very very delicate phase of fasting. During fasting, all of our senses carefully adapt and to a good degree, shut out the distractions around us. It's like our minds and bodies enter into another level and dimension when fasting......I believe you know what I am talking about......

This statement of missing your MC is not unusual as your innerself and body has welcomed this newness......ridding the old and sloughing off the layers that bind us. It is once we awaken from fasting and enter back into our daily life of choosing what to eat and interacting with the world again, do we begin the real challenge of healing~~

The digestive system is responsible for this fasting process and thereafter. Because the digestive process has been shut down, after a lengthy fast, it is wise to slowly introduce soft easily digestible foods. For many reasons than one. Your digestive process is waking up from being on vacation.......the first week it is quickly absorbing what it can to replenish from working so hard with detoxifying so it is imperative to have high water content foods that are easily digestible and preferrably low glycemic. May even be more attractive to include non dilluted juices the first day or two than the solids.

Chewing is the FIRST rule! There is still a high percentage of toxins that are loose in the body/colon so it would make sense to eat easily digestible foods like apple,pears etc.

Going back, you metioned emotional eating. That in itself will cause your body to become acidic and set your digestive system up for a downturn. Foods like raisins are rather drying and high in sugar which will effect your emotions especially when you have been fasting so long. Dehydarted foods contribute to bloating and digestive issues. Simple fact even though they taste great!

You are still in that "fasting" phase and I would take a step back and revamp that eating so that one, toxins can be carried out effectively and two, your digestive process is not becoming blemished. Don't create internal weaknesses with the emotions and the food choices.

If you can, try to deal with the emotional issues before they become a chronic pattern in fasting.

Post fasting is about refamiliarizing ourselves to everything we once knew..........but with a new association. Free your body of the old thoughts b/c fasting helps us to slough off,let go,exfoliate and come to terms with all those embedded things.

;)

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

Ive transitioned to just fruits for today, though i really think i should have a salad... i really really really do.

[SchoolOfRAWk]

Originally Posted by SchoolOfRAWk
tweety -

I'm very educated on fasting and still can make the same mistakes as she is making.

What we know and what we feel overrided to do sometimes are 2 very different things! lol!

Hey SoR -
I didnt mean to insinuate you are uneducated on fasting but I have seen a lot of posts by irhxcbcziuzxs in the past week and most of them have given me the impression they are only asking for information on this board when they may not have done any other sort of reading on the subject matter.

I guess it just astounds me to see someone do a long 40day cleanse and seem to scramble last minute for help and not have a back-up plan on what exactly to eat on the breaking point....

if my impressions are incorrect i apologize

No offense taken at all, Tweety. I see your point, and do agree with you. I did a 34 day water fast (ay carumba) and did have a day to day plan, precisely, of what/how to eat. I read every book, I consulted with an actual water fasting doctor. Then went nuts anyways. Because you get SOME nutrition on the MC, I've heard nothing is as bad as water fasts in terms of breaking them, etc. I was coming at it from that angle, that's all. :p

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

today i ate

1 pear
8 strawberries
2 grapefruit
Quite a bit of watermelon (maybe 4 cups or more)
1 lemon
maybe about 15 blueberries (which i noted had a wierd taste, gross taste... and i went back to the fridge and noticed my g/fs sausage in the fridge was leaking sausage juice onto my berries, i threw the rest out)
and half a cantaloupe...

thats it!

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

goodness, i bought some dried pineapple and papaya today, didnt even eat very much but apparently im to 1000 calories today already.

[SchoolOfRAWk]

Hey - I just read that Robin Quivers (from Howard Stern - groan) drinks the lemonade all day and eats healthful for dinner.

I am going to stay on this lemonade. I rather like it.

[FirstGarden]

I find it hard to agree that your 40 fast was a waste.

- You established fasting history for yourself, a milestone experience that you'll have to look back upon for the rest of your life.

- Your body benefited enormously from the amount of toxins you threw off.

I've never gone more than 19 days myself, so I can't say that I speak from experience here. But, I do know that most of us tend to be emotionally attached to food. This is not unique. You are not alone here.

Here's my thoughts:

As for the emotional attachment to food, it can be emotions misplaced. In other words, you desire something intensely, and food can be a convenient object for fulfillment. Again, you are not alone. What do you intensely desire? What goal? Objective? Project?.. maybe even a hobby.. something to channel that emotional energy, creatively.

Almost needless to say, you don't want to be sitting around thinking about your condition all day.. how you feel. Not to imply that you are doing that, but engage your mind, preoccupy it with something powerful and meaningful to take your central focus off food, the fast, your physical and emotional condition. I can relate with what you're saying, believe me.

Another thought I had, and I can be very wrong here... just a thought:

Maybe you didn't go far enough. 40 days of the MC may do wonders and I have huge respect for such an endeavor. But, there are still toxins a-plenty in your system, some which are deeper tissue stuff. These are now exposed, and your body does long, instinctily, or by design to be rid of them. The body, when not in fasting mode, uses food as a blanket or buffer for the toxins. The craving for foods goes away after some days of fasting. But, when the fasting ends, the remaining toxins may work havoc in the system -- for some individuals, not necessarily all -- and create colossal food cravings and appetites seemingly beyond reason. If this theory were true, more fasting, down the road would eventually correct this, providing emotions are properly balanced and focused at the end.

Theoretically, the less toxins we carry, the less wild cravings we should have.

Day-fasting might help (smoothies, juices), with a good meal in the late afternoon/early eve.

Do you have any further detox goals?
Have you gone as far as you'd like to go?
How about other detox methods? Cleanses?

The concept here is to restore our bodies as close as we can to that of our youth. For most of us, barring emotional issues, I don't recall there being any wild, unnatural cravings for food. Our systems were so pure. Of course, we ate S.A.D. At this point, one wonders how long it takes to reprogram our bodies and retrain senses for raw, natural foods.

Maybe I'm too ideal in this modern day of all-pervasive pollution. But, it does seem that thru sufficient detoxing, our bodies will eventually arrive at a healthy, harmonious, physiological/chemical balance.

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

my calories are sky roketing with this dried fruit... eff this

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

Today
-------------

8 pieces of sun dried pineapple
6 strips of sun dried papaya
1/2 a cantaloupe
6 medium strawberries
2 medium grapefruits
1 lemon juiced
40 leafs of spinach
1 lime
2 cups shredded romaine lettuce
3 large raw carrots (with salsa)

total today or close to 1426 calories
all because of that damn pineapple

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

I find it hard to agree that your 40 fast was a waste.

- You established fasting history for yourself, a milestone experience that you'll have to look back upon for the rest of your life.

- Your body benefited enormously from the amount of toxins you threw off.

I've never gone more than 19 days myself, so I can't say that I speak from experience here. But, I do know that most of us tend to be emotionally attached to food. This is not unique. You are not alone here.

Here's my thoughts:

As for the emotional attachment to food, it can be emotions misplaced. In other words, you desire something intensely, and food can be a convenient object for fulfillment. Again, you are not alone. What do you intensely desire? What goal? Objective? Project?.. maybe even a hobby.. something to channel that emotional energy, creatively.

Almost needless to say, you don't want to be sitting around thinking about your condition all day.. how you feel. Not to imply that you are doing that, but engage your mind, preoccupy it with something powerful and meaningful to take your central focus off food, the fast, your physical and emotional condition. I can relate with what you're saying, believe me.

Another thought I had, and I can be very wrong here... just a thought:

Maybe you didn't go far enough. 40 days of the MC may do wonders and I have huge respect for such an endeavor. But, there are still toxins a-plenty in your system, some which are deeper tissue stuff. These are now exposed, and your body does long, instinctily, or by design to be rid of them. The body, when not in fasting mode, uses food as a blanket or buffer for the toxins. The craving for foods goes away after some days of fasting. But, when the fasting ends, the remaining toxins may work havoc in the system -- for some individuals, not necessarily all -- and create colossal food cravings and appetites seemingly beyond reason. If this theory were true, more fasting, down the road would eventually correct this, providing emotions are properly balanced and focused at the end.

Theoretically, the less toxins we carry, the less wild cravings we should have.

Day-fasting might help (smoothies, juices), with a good meal in the late afternoon/early eve.

Do you have any further detox goals?
Have you gone as far as you'd like to go?
How about other detox methods? Cleanses?

The concept here is to restore our bodies as close as we can to that of our youth. For most of us, barring emotional issues, I don't recall there being any wild, unnatural cravings for food. Our systems were so pure. Of course, we ate S.A.D. At this point, one wonders how long it takes to reprogram our bodies and retrain senses for raw, natural foods.

Maybe I'm too ideal in this modern day of all-pervasive pollution. But, it does seem that thru sufficient detoxing, our bodies will eventually arrive at a healthy, harmonious, physiological/chemical balance.

I plan to do another MC in a few months with a few other cleanses, I will be back to SAD food, but i will be eating alot healthier than i ever have before. I set out for a 10 day Master Cleanse, so 40 was above and beyond for me.
I eat when im bored, which is all day, even if im doing somehting, im eating while im doing it... haha.

[SchoolOfRAWk]

I read that Robin Quivers does the lemonaid all day long, as maintenance, then eats a sensible dinner. I will do that M - F I decided. I love the idea, and love how I feel. Makes sense to me. And I am happy to have a plan I'm excited about upon finishing this fast, that I know is very workable and doable. That helps!

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

no thanks to that one, im sick of the lemonade

[lafsalot]

Just keep in mind that long term use of the lemonaide drink will eventually eat away at the enamel of your teeth. ~ Cathy

[irhxcbcziuzxs]

that too!!!!

[SchoolOfRAWk]

I don't use much lemon, though. Just a few per gallon.

[SchoolOfRAWk]

but thanks for the reminder!