View Full Version : Juicer suggestions?
09-20-2004, 11:04 AM
I'm thinking of getting a new juicer. I have a cheap old one from Meijers.....I have to cut things up to nothing to fit it the chute. I see Alissa has one called Breville Juice fountain......any thoughts? I can't spend a ton of money. My husband still hasn't gotten over the price of the Vitamix!!!!!
09-20-2004, 11:51 AM
I am also thinking of getting the Breville. I love that you can put whole fruit into it. Kirk also has one and said that he likes it. I believe I am going to get one soon. The cheapest I found was $90. I love my juicer but having to cut stuff up beforehand is a real deteriant from juicing. I guess I am lazy! :o
09-20-2004, 11:53 AM
I have a juiceman and a champion - I use the juiceman daily because it is lightweight and easy for me to manuever. I use the champion for fruit ice cream and sometimes juicing when my husbnd goes through his moment, I bought that juicer cause YOU wanted it.
I have also seen the Jack LaLane in action, very powerful and efficient. Juiceman and Jack LaLane are less than $200 - like 159 or so. Champion is 239 or so - I think.
Michelle at www.fromsadtoraw.com has a comparrison of two juicers on her website that you may want to use as part of your research.
Be Blessed in Your Comings and Your Goings
09-20-2004, 11:59 AM
Hi Sweet Lips
Do you have to cut the fruit up very small in order to juice in your juicers?
Hi Kristi & Rawjojo,
Just thought I'd let you know that the main reason I desided to get the Breville was the size of the chute ( it measures 3 inches across ). I like that feature cause I'm a little on the lazy side too.
09-20-2004, 12:51 PM
I love my Jack LaLanne juicer. I also have a Champion, but hardly use it at all.
09-20-2004, 03:11 PM
09-22-2004, 08:43 AM
Just to chime in a little late here, I love my Jack LaLane. I have the Juiceman, Vita-mix and Champion too, but the JLL is getting the most use lately. Clean up is much better and no having to cut up all those fruits/veggies as it has a large shoot. If you have a Costco by you, they are the best price I've seen. Also, HSN has them for a good price. But, the infomercial is advertising a brand new model and I think you get some extra freebies with it. Watch for that!
09-22-2004, 09:42 AM
How do you all feel about the idea/belief that most juicers "cook" the juice? I notice most people here are in favor of the Vitamix Blender and also Juicers that are centrifuge-based and other rapid juicers, so I am curious.
09-22-2004, 03:36 PM
How do they do that??????? :eek:
09-22-2004, 03:51 PM
The single gear, masticating juice extractors and similar machines turn at about a slow 80 RPM's to ensure that nothing is lost through heated elements in your juice. Most juciers "heat" and "cook" the juice or at the very least do not effectively extract the live enzymes from the vegetables and fruits.
Centrifugal-type juicers are not recommended in Raw diets.It is possible to "boil" juice in a Vitamix. That is not efficient or Raw. Most people like these Juicers and Blenders 'cause they are fast and easier to clean than the truly Raw ones, which are sloooow and produce a Raw, enzyme-rich product.
09-22-2004, 07:42 PM
What do you recommend?????
09-22-2004, 09:41 PM
It takes over 3 minutes to bring anything to a boil in my Vita-mix via the friction created by the blades, and with my juices, I usually do about a minute or less.
I've heard "experts" say that the centrifugal juicers reverse the polarity of foods. I've asked a few people I know who are science geeks, and none of them see how this is possible.
As far as science is concerned, it's possible to get two conflicting results from any experiment. And a lot of it is opinion. I take it all with a grain of sea salt and do what feels right. And both my Vita-Mix and centrifugal juicers help me a great deal in my quest for perfect health. So I ignore most of the negative stuff I hear about the tools and foods that help me stay raw.
09-23-2004, 12:37 AM
(Don't shoot the messenger) :o
My point in sharing was and is, if something is heated to a certain degree, it is not really "Raw".
I do not share information to start controversy.
I do so because I would have LOVED the guidance of someone like me who has lived and studied subjects like Living and Raw Foods as a lifestyle for years, and because I am paid by clients to do so.
I share here because it's the right place to do so and some people appreciate my sharing.
09-23-2004, 12:52 AM
What do you recommend?????
I feel the Samson, Champion, Green Star and L'Equip Visor are the best buys for maximum Livefood Nutrition and Value.
The Samson 6 in 1 and L'Equip Visor are the best ones for versatility and Nutrition and price, as the one machine does nearly everything a Raw Fooder needs, from nutbutters to wheatgrass.
09-23-2004, 11:08 AM
I suppose the definition of guidance could be debated. I've heard many times that people have trouble knowing what's right and what's wrong eating truly raw after attending raw events and reading information from various experts on the raw diet. Geez, I can't imagine why people have a hard time figuring it out???
"Use your common sense" would be my advice and avoid the controversy surrounding juicers/dehydrators/food on whether they are "truly raw".
09-23-2004, 02:07 PM
[QUOTE=ConsciousCuisine]AJ, no reason to get defensive/personal. (Don't shoot the messenger)
Hmm I am still trying to figure out how AJ got defensive here. :) I to have noticed from my limited research how sometimes folks can get really picky on certain subjects. Even though personal experience has some merits so does scientific research which some folks want to ignore. I believe some "raw experts" make it way to hard for folks to figure out how to eat healthy. :rolleyes:
09-23-2004, 03:10 PM
Wow! I have to agree with AJ here on this one. I can see that CC is just sharing knowledge and putting the info out there us and that is mucho appreciated!...but at the same token, I honestly don't see that AJ got defensive in the least but was just stating her particular point of view on the matter.
And it's true, there are SO many "do's and don'ts" and a LOAD of conflicting information out there about the raw diet that can and oftentimes does make it confusing and frustrating for those of us just starting out. So, we have to do what we can until we arrive at a certain point in this all.
Organic or inorganic produce...well of course we all know organic is best, but if one can't get organic, do they buy what they can get or do they just say "screw it" and go back to eating the SAD?
Which is best? Fresh juice that may be slightly "cooked" from a juicer or cooked-to-death commercial juice in a bottle/can from the store?
If we really want to get technical here, we could say that nature didn't intend for us to juice our fruits and veggies, but to just eat them and then we'd all be wrong...centrifigal and masticating juicers! Just eat the apple and chew it well and let the teeth do the masticating! (Well Kirk, for you we'll make an exception! :p )
09-23-2004, 03:12 PM
Good One, Rawkinlocs! ha-ha, lol!
09-23-2004, 03:14 PM
Curtis, perhaps I came off differently than I intended. Maybe "defensive" was not the right word. If so, I apologise to anyone who thinks so... I was responding to this statement which was in reference to my statements about juicers and being Raw:
"So I ignore most of the negative stuff I hear about the tools and foods that help me stay raw."
I was not/am not being negative. I am being informative and answering the question Kristi asked. It hurts my feelings when I share what I have worked so hard to learn and the sharing is viewed as "negative" or "picky" or "extreme" or as being a "Purist".
As far as being "picky" is concerned, I think that is not really the point...being "accurate" is what I strive for, and what encourage others to be. I mean, what is the reason we are all Raw or striving to be Raw? Isn't it mainly the health benefits? It would stand to reason then, that we would do our best to be truly "Raw" in our lifestyle and diet... If someone is going to include something in a "Raw" diet that is cooked, that is thier choice. I know that many of my clients had *no* idea that things labeled "raw" like Nama Shoyu are in fact cooked and "Live" for example. Is that "picky" ? No, it is accurate.
As far as science goes, what I do and say is based on a blending of scientific research, intuition and logic. (Most scientists say the "enzyme" theory is B.S. by the way, so if we blindly believed Science and Science alone would any of us be Raw?) Like AJ, I think using common sense (and educating oneself and listening to others/experts who have done the work for us) is the way to go. The facts are that many juicers and Blenders heat and "cook" the foods to above 105. Period! :o
I worked at Optimum Health Institiute. They are considered to be one of the Worlds foremost authorities on Raw and Living Foods for clenasing and Health. I trust their research and my own, and do not limit myself to just one way of thinking. I draw from many sources, as I encourage everyone to do.
(I am not angry...I am Passionate and simply clarifying my point of view. I love this board, the people who post and the exchanges and sharing here. ;) I think I just need a hug. Perhaps the 90+ hours I have been working per week with the terminally ill has made me weepy and sensitive )
09-23-2004, 03:27 PM
Off the subject, BUT I learned something new from this:
Are all Nama Shoya products "un-raw"? I hadn't heard that before and since I have seen Alissa using them I guess I just assumed that they were raw? Does tht mean that Braggs is also not raw? Once again, i'm confused?
09-23-2004, 03:31 PM
Braggs, Nama Shoyu, Authentic Kombucha, Nutritional Yeast and Unpasteurized Miso are all cooked "live" foods. I have a thread on here somewhere about that...
09-23-2004, 03:38 PM
09-23-2004, 03:51 PM
Thank you Rawkinlocs I agree with what you said.
No problem CC, and my name is not Craig :)
09-23-2004, 03:55 PM
Sorry Curtis! I just proved my point that I am overworked and tired :) And my name is not "CC" , it's Conscious Cuisine! ;) (I have actually thought of changing my name to something else since nearly everyone calls me "CC" here. Perhaps a shorter name would be helpful, as the length seems to be the reason people shorten it...any suggestions? I *don't* like "CC" :confused: )
09-23-2004, 04:16 PM
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