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Rawkinlocs
03-28-2005, 05:45 PM
...as if we didn't know! But I just saw this article and wanted to share it; with all the negative press we receive, it's nice to finally see some positive stuff!


Click here to go to the article (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=594&e=1&u=/nm/20050328/hl_nm/health_raw_dc)

Raw Food Vegans Thin But Healthy, Study Finds

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People who adhere strictly to raw food vegetarian diets are thin but have surprisingly robust bones, U.S. researchers reported on Monday.

Although nutritionists and the food industry have warned that a diet without dairy foods can lead to the bone-thinning disease osteoporosis, the team at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis found the vegans they studied had many of the signs of strong bones.

"We think it's possible these people don't have increased risk of fracture but that their low bone mass is related to the fact that they are lighter because they take in fewer calories," Dr. Luigi Fontana, who led the study, said in a statement.

"Raw food vegetarians believe in eating only plant-derived foods that have not been cooked, processed, or otherwise altered from their natural state," Fontana's team wrote in this week's issue of the Archives of Internal medicine.

"Because of their low calorie and low protein intake, raw food vegetarians have a low body mass index (BMI) and a low total body fat content. It is well documented that a low BMI and weight loss are strongly associated with low bone mass and increased fracture risk, while obesity protects against osteoporosis."

Fontana's team studied 18 strict raw food vegans aged 33 to 85. All ate a diet that included unprepared foods such vegetables, fruits, nuts, and sprouted grains. They had been on this diet for an average of 3.6 years.

The team compared them to 18 more average Americans. The raw food group had an average body mass index of 20.5, while the average group were slightly overweight with a BMI of 25.

BMI is an internationally accepted measurement of height to weight, and a BMI of 18.5 to 24 is considered the healthy range.

Fontana expected the vegans to have low vitamin D levels because they avoid all animal products including dairy. But in fact their vitamin D levels were "markedly higher" than average.

Vitamin D is made by the skin when the body is exposed to sunlight and is key to keeping strong bones. It is added to milk and other foods because it is so important.

"These people are clever enough to expose themselves to sunlight to increase their concentrations of vitamin D," Fontana said.

And the vegans had low levels of C-reactive protein, an inflammatory molecule that is becoming linked with the risk of heart disease, diabetes and other chronic disease.

Furthermore, they had lower levels of IGF-1, a growth factor linked to risk of breast and prostate cancer.

Fontana does not advocate a raw food diet. But he said that to lower the risk of cancer and heart disease people should eat more fruits, vegetables and whole grains.

sweetgoddess
03-28-2005, 06:01 PM
well that is all good news....thanks for sharing. It was wonderful to read. Umm obesity protects against osteoporosis?!?! ;)

Pailani
03-28-2005, 06:05 PM
<<Fontana does not advocate a raw food diet. But he said that to lower the risk of cancer and heart disease people should eat more fruits, vegetables and whole grains.>>

I wonder why he doesn't advocate a raw food diet???

PixieGreen
03-28-2005, 06:20 PM
Rawkinlocs, thank you for sharing this. It is refreshing to see positive raw news!

Sweetgoddess, I'm just theorizing, but since SAD food is so low in nutrients I wonder if heavier SAD eaters aren't better off than skinny ones. Since one needs to eat so much more food to absorb the proper amount of nutrients. Obviously the risks associated with obesity would override the benefits of those on the high end of the "healthy" BMI scale.

I'm curious because they say "raw food vegetarians have a low body mass index (BMI) and a low total body fat content," but the average BMI of their raw subjects was 20.5, well within their definition of healthy. In fact they were 2 points above the lowest "healthy" score and the SAD eaters were only one point above the healthy scale. I wonder what Dr Fontana would think of the fact that the only common factor among the longest lived cultures is low weight. Cousens said this amounts to 20% less than the BMI healthy scale.

Christa

momma2twins
03-28-2005, 06:25 PM
Ok, I think one of the best things about that article was that they had an 85 year old raw vegan in the group. :)

Thanks for sharing rawkinlocs.

Lisa

Elizabeth
03-28-2005, 06:48 PM
Umm obesity protects against osteoporosis?!?! ;)

Hi SweetGoddess,


I have read before that heavier people build bigger bones in response to the weight they are forced to carry with them..so they have larger, denser bones. One of the risk factors for osteoporosis is to be a slightly built woman, and it is not only because one would be taking in less nutrition, but also because ones bones would not "need" to be as dense/strong to support a small persons weight.

I hope that helps. :-)

Blessings...

PixieGreen
03-28-2005, 07:02 PM
I have read before that heavier people build bigger bones in response to the weight they are forced to carry with them..so they have larger, denser bones. One of the risk factors for osteoporosis is to be a slightly built woman, and it is not only because one would be taking in less nutrition, but also because ones bones would not "need" to be as dense/strong to support a small persons weight.

That makes more sense!

Christa

sweetgoddess
03-28-2005, 07:19 PM
well at last...im safe from something....haha :p

Elizabeth
03-28-2005, 07:41 PM
well at last...im safe from something....haha :p

I have comforted myself with that thought many times. :)

just_jo
03-28-2005, 07:45 PM
What struck me as interesting is that we finally got credit for being "clever enough" :D

WOOO HOOOOO us!!!! We're "clever"!!!
Who ever would have guessed!! LOL :cool:

khackett
03-28-2005, 08:28 PM
:) THAT is what I wanted. That sort of stuff.

Thanks! I'm excited again.

VeganVixen
03-28-2005, 09:49 PM
:) THAT is what I wanted. That sort of stuff.

Thanks! I'm excited again.


WHY didnt you say so before???????lol ;)


btw -I AM GLAD YOU FINALLY GOT ANSWERS!!!! :) :) :)

Revvell
03-28-2005, 10:25 PM
I liked the "clever" enough to get sunshine. Sheesh! I LIKE sun! That's why I LIVE here! ummm, well, I guess that was clever of me ~ moving here. <G>

Revvell

DotfromOz
03-29-2005, 02:38 AM
<<Fontana does not advocate a raw food diet. But he said that to lower the risk of cancer and heart disease people should eat more fruits, vegetables and whole grains.>>

I wonder why he doesn't advocate a raw food diet???

I'd bet it has a great deal to do with the politics of not going against medical tradition, which still touts the infamous USDA food pyramid as the only truly "healthy" diet. Not to mention that this guy is affiliated with a university school of medicine. If you're going to keep a job in academe, you'd damn well better not publicize any radical opinions, even if they seem to be supported by just-completed research. Gonna take years and years of additional experiments before it'll be "safe" to admit what raw foodists have known for all this time!

RawTruth
03-29-2005, 02:42 AM
This is the study for which the Boutenkos were tested. The researchers sought out long-time raw foodists (they're 11 years now). Victoria goes into detail about their findings -- truly amazing and motivating -- as those of you know who've attended one of their recent presentations.

khackett
03-29-2005, 06:53 AM
WHY didnt you say so before???????lol ;)


btw -I AM GLAD YOU FINALLY GOT ANSWERS!!!! :) :) :)

Tee! I thought I DID!

And yeah, I'm trying to get back on the rawwagon today. Wish me luck!!

SedonaSun
03-29-2005, 07:09 AM
Interesting that while the facts of the study prove the benefits of raw, the author still had to get in several digs about us "not average" people (referring to the 18 "more average" people they studied--I guess that makes us above average then, since we're clever enough to get sunlight instead of drinking milk.)

So the title, says "...thin, but healthy" as if thin isn't desirable. But... that's exactly what the media tells us... be thin!! I guess it's okay for movie starlets to starve and exercise compulsively and purge to be thin, but for us to eat naturally and be thin... well, that's just weird, folks. It should be "Raw Vegans Thin AND Healthy"

Well, here's to all us clever weirdos!! :D

JustMe
03-29-2005, 11:07 AM
Well said Kelly!!

If they'd read over what they write, they might see the contradiction there. When they say thin, they make it sound like its anorexic thin or something. Not to mention that we are in the HEALTHY range. ??? I've seen the 'famoous' people on raw, like david wolfe, the Boutenkos, etc. and they don't look unhealthy. Those people that have lost too much weight probably have a problem, but so far i haven't seen any too thin people.

blue_sky
03-29-2005, 12:21 PM
oh no.... not THIN! (gasp) :p

monkeyboy
03-30-2005, 06:36 PM
Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to bump this up. It's important for many more people to read this.


Peace,

M.B.