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angelandarose
03-27-2005, 05:33 PM
Has anyone ever heard of someone having kidney stones as a detox symptom? I have been feeling good all day, peeing a lot and then all of a sudden I can't pee, it hurts and now my left kidney is killing me. Don't know if I'll be around for replies but I would love to hear if anyone has ever done this while eating raw and if there is anything raw I can eat/drink that will help.

Thanks,
Angie <- whos in a LOT of pain!

misslinda
03-27-2005, 05:48 PM
Hey Angie!

I've wondered this myself. I've alwasy wanted to do a liver/kidney flush to rid the stones but I didn't feel my body was strong and healthy enough to handle the intensity so I've been raw. Sorry I cannot answer your question.

:)

sweetgoddess
03-27-2005, 05:53 PM
yes i have heard of that. Mybrother-in-law experienced that when he went on the Hallelujah diet. He did a kidney stone flush. Something to do with drinking olive oil. I am sure you could look it up ongoogle. The flush really helped him.
Hope you feel better soon!

angelandarose
03-29-2005, 10:18 AM
Sounds like what your brother did was the 'Liver Flush' if he was drinking olive oil. It's to flush gall stones out of your liver and gall bladder, I've tried that before and it really did make me feel good.

But this IS a kidney stone, not a gall stone. I went in Sunday to the hospital right after I posted because my pain when through the roof. I have a stone about 3-4mm's in size. They let me come home but I have to strain my pee... OH WHAT FUN! HA HA! All the pain meds they gave me and the pain meds I'm taking now at home have stopped me up. Anyone have any good suggestions to get my bowels to move? I'm afraid to try anything to harsh, would rather do more natural remedies than more drugs. They thought the stone had already passed into my bladder but last night after I got home the pain started up again in my kidney. I'm drinking as much water as I can tolorate to try and help flush this stone out.

Thanks!
Love,
Angie

asil
03-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Oh, you have all my sympathy. My mom had this problem. It was all fine in the long run but she sure was in some pain for a time. Did the doc say what he thought caused them? Are they a long time building up or is the problem more recent?

Anyway, as to being stoppe up, I posted here last week that I'd had that problem since going raw. I tried everything and nothing helped much. If I were you I'd start with some magnesium supplements or Milk of Magnesia. At least this won't cause cramping. Magnesium wasn't strong enough for me, though. I ended up using Triphala (an ayurvedic herb mix) which did not cause cramping but caused me to have one of those one-second-of-warning-to-get-to-the-bathroom moments. A lot of people use senna or senna tea (Smooth Move is one brand) but it will cause cramping. Also, perhaps you should ask your doc if it's OK to take -- what if it adds to the kidney stone problem?

Hope you feel better soon.

Helen Of Tennessee
03-29-2005, 12:42 PM
I have/had a kidney stone. I had a heart scan done and for some reason they did my whole torso. They found a kidney stone. I never new I had one. I went to my ND and he gave me Phosfood Liquid (by Standard Process, Inc.). He told me to put 20 drops in 8 oz of water 3 times a day for 60 days and the stone will be gone. It doesn't taste bad either.

I never had another scan done, so I don't know if it's gone or not, but another patient that my ND had, had a lot of kidney stones. I saw his scans before and after. He did the Phosfood Liquid for the 60 days and it worked for him. It disolved the stones.

This is what is in the Phosfood Liquid: Phosphorus, water, ortho-phophoric acid, inositol and riboflavin.

I'm sure eating all raw will eventually get rid of the stone(s) but the above works fast and for those of us, like me, who aren't all raw yet.

<>< Helen of Tennessee

joy
03-29-2005, 01:56 PM
I believe malic acid is also helpful in dissolving kidney stones.

You can take this in powdered form, or in the form I like best: fresh-squeezed apple juice. This allows one to concentrate the amount of malic acid s/he gets, without all the fiber of the fruit (although that wouldn't be so bad, either).

DotfromOz
03-29-2005, 03:24 PM
Hope this posting finds you feeling better, preferably having managed to pass that rotten stone.

That's a use I'd not considered for a strainer. Does not sound like fun, considering that our gender does not contribute to directional precision in such matters. ;)