Why the wide spectrum with weight loss

[coastal]

I have noticed that some people are loosing weight so rapidly they're looking for ways to slow it down and some are not losing any. I was just wondering why such a huge variation? I understand the nut and oil effect as well as the high fat fruits and vegetables, but how are some losing so quickly. If I want to lose about 3 lbs a week or more what should I avoid?:confused:

Stacy

[Lay-Lay]

Stacey, everyone is different. We don't all follow the same raw food regimen. What works for me might not work for you. I don't like the word "avoid". Also 3 lbs a week, every week??? That is alot, in my opinion.

I am losing weight, my only raw rule is: EAT RAW! That works for me~ then again I don't worry so much about the numbers.

[Revvell]

You might want to read my thread "Consider This" which gives my understanding on this very subject.

Revvell

[Solace]

You might want to read my thread "Consider This" which gives my understanding on this very subject.

Revvell
I tried and got No matches found ?

[coastal]

I found the article by linking by Revvell name. It is informative and I'm already exercising with a personal trainer twice a week and cardio an additional 2 or 3 days.

[coastal]

I don't think 3 lbs is too much. Most guidelines say 2 lbs is healthy. Alissa's testimonial for the Tyra show lost more than 3 lbs a week. I'd be happy with any since my main goal is total health and I only need to lose 15.

[Revvell]

I found the article by linking by Revvell name. It is informative and I'm already exercising with a personal trainer twice a week and cardio an additional 2 or 3 days.

Yet, it wasn't about just exercising.. it was about various reasons for why people may not be "losing" as much as they "think" they "should".

[Revvell]

I tried and got No matches found ?


"Bumped" it up for ya.

[Solace]

"Bumped" it up for ya.
ya you tryin' to start a bumping war ? Comon':p by the way I believe emotions play a big roll too STRESS:mad: Anger:mad: I still have those things attached to some fat, Anyone want them ?:p

[Lay-Lay]

meow....to clarify....Revvell I think (and please correct me if I am wrong) was stressing the importance of doing raw for a bigger deeper reason beyond losing a pounds, weight, inches whatever. Losing lets say 20 pounds, sure your going to lose it, but then what? Go back to eating SAD? Do raw 50%? What is you motivation beyond weightloss? If doing raw is not for a deeper passion then weightloss then it is just a "diet" not a lifestyle and holds no permancy. Just my 2 cents! :p

[Revvell]

ya you tryin' to start a bumping war Comon' by the way I believe emotions play a big roll too STRESS:mad: Anger:mad: I still have those things attached to some fat, Anyone want them

Nooooo!!! *shakes head* Noooo anger! Noooo fats! Nooooo!!! :p

[hypnocmt]

Also, people have different basal metabolic rates. While some of us can eat a ton, others are just built to be very efficient, and may chug along, maintaining weight on fewer calories. I usually stick with a very simple, clean diet. Strangely, if I want to drop a couple of pounds, I will eat one really piggy meal and two days later (when the sodiumbloat goes away) I drop a couple of pounds. this seems totally counterintuitive, except that I think the occasional feasting tells my body it can "let go" of the extra stuff b/c we are not starving or depriving. I grew up with starvation issues due to my thrid world origins, and I think my teenage self-confidence, self-starvation, laxative abuse, extended periods of grief following the death of my enitre circle of friends and BF at one point served to really throw off my internal balance further. This could have really made my subconscious and body start "guarding" and hoarding "in case of physical or emotional crisis"

Fat is excess
toxicity storage
protection from famine
protection from toxic emotions

think of it, if fat stores toxins and you are somehow stressed

where do you think the toxic stress hormones go?

Stress shuts down the system for digetion and elimination, so it can't go "out"

It must be stored?

Where???? FAT>

Until the inner toxicity is ready to come out it will stay safely stored on my bootay.

Plus, the mind doesn't differentiate between emotional and physical stress.

Its emergency response is "protect! Protect!" and so it "shields" the vital organ with fat. this is why some of us have skinny arms and legs with big puffy stress bellies.

So there is more to it than the calories in--->calories out equation.

ya gotta lean up and toss your junk on all levels

Now that would account for a HUGE variance in weight shedding among our raw comrades, eh???

[Revvell]

Well, no, I was thinking of this:

" Nature and our bodies do NOT work as we would like. Just because YOU want to transform your weight (I rarely use the word "lose" as when most people "lose" something, they promptly go out looking to "find" it again) it doesn't necessarily stand to reason that that's what's going to happen immediately. You body may be just soo happy to start receiving so many nutrients that it doesn't know where to begin healing itself so, it may go to work healing something that is chronic and/or acute that you may not even know about."

Thanks for the thought though. :D



meow....to clarify....Revvell I think (and please correct me if I am wrong) was stressing the importance of doing raw for a bigger deeper reason beyond losing a pounds, weight, inches whatever. Losing lets say 20 pounds, sure your going to lose it, but then what? Go back to eating SAD? Do raw 50%? What is you motivation beyond weightloss? If doing raw is not for a deeper passion then weightloss then it is just a "diet" not a lifestyle and holds no permancy. Just my 2 cents! :p

[Lay-Lay]

Nooooo!!! *shakes head* Noooo anger! Noooo fats! Nooooo!!! :p

Your too cute! :p

[Revvell]

Your too cute! :p

Yas, we squirrels are adorable. :D

[Lay-Lay]

that reminds me, I need to get my squirrel feeders out.:p

[Rawkinlocs]

Well, no, I was thinking of this:

" Nature and our bodies do NOT work as we would like. Just because YOU want to transform your weight (I rarely use the word "lose" as when most people "lose" something, they promptly go out looking to "find" it again) it doesn't necessarily stand to reason that that's what's going to happen immediately. You body may be just soo happy to start receiving so many nutrients that it doesn't know where to begin healing itself so, it may go to work healing something that is chronic and/or acute that you may not even know about."

BINGO!! **Johnny, tell her what she's won!**

[Lay-Lay]

yeah I love that line, that is awesome!

[Revvell]

that reminds me, I need to get my squirrel feeders out.:p

Make Alissa's Date Nut Torte... they'll be eating out of your hand. :D

[Revvell]

BINGO!! **Johnny, tell her what she's won!**


What I win??? What I win???? *jumps up and down excitedly* :eek:

[Lay-Lay]

congrats....oh i will!

[Pennypower]

meow....to clarify....Revvell I think (and please correct me if I am wrong) was stressing the importance of doing raw for a bigger deeper reason beyond losing a pounds, weight, inches whatever. Losing lets say 20 pounds, sure your going to lose it, but then what? Go back to eating SAD? Do raw 50%? What is you motivation beyond weightloss? If doing raw is not for a deeper passion then weightloss then it is just a "diet" not a lifestyle and holds no permancy. Just my 2 cents! :p

I just wanted to chime in and say, just because someone is wanting to lose weight, and quickly for that matter, doesn't mean they don't have a bigger deeper reason for going raw beyond losing the pounds. I have many many lifetime goals that I would like to achieve by being raw. To be honest, I want to lose this excess 50 lbs as quickly as possible. If it doesn't happen very quickly, that's ok too, because I know it will happen eventually. And I love the fact that if I stay raw, and I fully intend to, that I won't gain it back again.
Excess weight is so uncomfortable, and for me painful on the joints, and makes it more difficult for me to excersise and keep up with my kids. Wanting to lose weight IS a pretty deep reason for wanting to go raw, because being overweight creates health problems, and it's part of wanting to be healthy.
I just had to say that, because it comes up a lot.
There is something responsible about not having unrealistic expectations, but there is nothing virtuous about not caring about your weight.;) ;)

[WannaBraw]

As a fellow raw foodie I'd just like to say that yes I wanted to lose weight, but I wanted health and the spiritual benefits that I get from raw. I am a meditator and I have never had better deeper meditaitons than when I went raw.

I was daignosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and I have to admit that since going raw 44 days ago I have seen a tremendous difference and so has my therapist. But that's another subject.

I just know that living the raw food way helps my life in every area I could not have even imagined.

I honestly have not been on a scale since I saw my doctor 2 days after going raw. I have 2 appointments next week where I am sure they are going to weigh me. I was 213 March 7th. But no matter what that scale says I was wearing a tight size 16 and now I am able to wear lose 14's and some 12's and this is only day 44.

Everyone is different. But I appreciate not having a scale and just eating right and seeing how differently the clothes look on me. Other people notice my weight loss more than I do.

I don't think that there is anything wrong with going raw to lose weight, the problem is if you do it just to get the weight off and go back to SAD or cooked vegan. They are totally different. Raw gives you a freedom and clarity that no other food program (stealing from Revvell here) does. So you have to decide am I doing this for looks or for life. I want this to be for life. I will do my best and leave the rest in God's hands, she knows what she's doing.


Love and Light to all,


Ellyn

[3kidsmommy]

I am not ashamed to say that the only reason why I do raw is to be thin. I am a stay at home mom of 3. I am 5'5 and at 123lbs. My 2 girls are vegetarians (one decided to go vegan) and have a meat eating son and hubby. My point is that being thin allows me to be active and fit for my family. I can out play my 10 year old anytime. We go miles on bike and foot everyday. All this is possible because I am fit. I know a lot of you are doing the raw food for the "health". Isn't being thin and fit the healthiest thing you can do for you and your family?

[domestic goddess]

Wow...3kidsmommy...there is so much more to being raw than just being thin. I don't even know how to respond to that. Yes, being fit and healthy is an important gift you can give *yourself* and being the best *you* you can be is the greatest gift you can give your family. But, from my understanding and from what I have read here, raw is a lifestyle, a mindset, its about healing your body and creating a good healing relationship with food. Raw vegan is a choice no only to be healthy, but to value and give meaning to the lives of animals being harshly kept and unnecessarily killed. Its a spiritual path, as you eat closest to nature, you become more aware and in tune with nature. Your respect for and towards living things deepens, I could go on...Raw is huge. It really is bigger than 'just' being thin. I am 5'6" and have a good 25lbs on you and that has never kept me form being active with my children, I run 3-4 miles a day, etc. I hope you can feel some of the other benefits from raw as well as the thinness aspect! :D

[tweety]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Revvell
Well, no, I was thinking of this:

" Nature and our bodies do NOT work as we would like. Just because YOU want to transform your weight (I rarely use the word "lose" as when most people "lose" something, they promptly go out looking to "find" it again) it doesn't necessarily stand to reason that that's what's going to happen immediately. You body may be just soo happy to start receiving so many nutrients that it doesn't know where to begin healing itself so, it may go to work healing something that is chronic and/or acute that you may not even know about."



BINGO!! **Johnny, tell her what she's won!**

Yes this brings to mind when I go and get a massage and she touches my thighs or finds a big lump in my foot that I didnt know was there... it hurts like @#$)(*&%(*!!! and i scream and i yell and i say DON"T STOP!!!!! :eek:

The body is an amazing work of art, a symphony of organisms and organizations and constant communication. Of course, I cants stand the fact that there is something wrong with me I dont know about. that really disturbs me. i mean.... i thought I knew what my pain was/is by what I feel now.... but the phenomenon of cellular memory can teach us so much more...

Im going on 10 months now of physical therapy from a car collision and I am still having problems with muscle spasms, foot pains and kinks all over my body. I still experience the trauma on the cellular level.

My accident was a big reason that got me to go raw..... from the amount of stress and trauma...... I still deal with it physically, emotionally and mentally everyday, plus the new trauma and stress that I accumulate on a daily basis of everyday life!! So I try to make my home life a sanctuary of healing.... taking baths with dead sea salts, candles, aromatherapy, music, stretching, massage, acupuncture..... So I can see why my body doesnt care about transforming weight. its hard for me to accept, but its the truth.

[Tinacampy]

I think that a raw food diet is a lot like Yoga. It doesn't matter WHY you do it, just DO IT! :) And, we all need to remember that it's a journey. The journey isn't the same for everyone.

I started practicing yoga 3-4 years ago b/c I thought it would help me tone up and maybe lose some weight. Then, it changed me - it changed the way I see my body, it changed the way I see the earth. And so, now, Yoga is much deeper to me. It moved me so much that I had to become a yoga teacher. I'm a high raw vegan now, my house is getting GREENER every week, and I am happy and healthy beyond anything I've ever known.

Raw food diets maybe start as "just" a healthy way to lose weight, but for some, they will become a spiritual journey. But not for everyone, and that's ok too!

So, let's not jump on 3kidsmommy b/c for her, right now, Raw is about thin. She is getting the health benefits and the environmental benefits and animal rights benefits anyway.

Let's give each other time to make the journey in our own way...

Just a thought.

[domestic goddess]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound unsupportive, I just don't want you to miss out 3kidsmommy! :D

[3kidsmommy]

Hey Domestic Goddess, I homeschool too! Yes, right now raw is about weight. Actually what am I saying? It has always been about weight! If I don't eat raw, I eat Vegan so it is still healthy and ethical. I agree with Tin that it really doesn't matter the reason for going raw as long as I do it. I am sure there is tons of benefit for going raw, for me it's all about being thin though.......sorry!:o