Juicers

[dreamrawalwz]

I know I know, it's been asked before. I only see a certain juicers being mentioned, but I'd like to know if anyone has a comparison on:

Jack Lalane
The Juiceman
Champion
Acme
Sampson
Green Star

and any others that you've heard of. I'd like to to last a long time, make a decent amount of juice, do well wtih greens, and minimal foam. I want to take it to college in the fall.

Help?

[michigan roman]

ive read ALOT about juicers past 2 years , including our members here in my search for my next juicer and this is my outlook on your list =

eliminate the lalane and juiceman because theyre the fast spinning centrifugal type juicers that heat and foam juices .

the samson has been backed by some experienced juicers here and is the slow auger turning type juicer which makes high quality foamless unheated juice , its the one along with the omega at the top of my list from from reading but have not physically seen either yet in order to determine how solidly / lastingly theyre constructed .

the green star has alot of backers and is type that makes high quality juice but is like twice as expensive (around $400) as the sampson / omega . and i think i read its harder to take apart and clean than the sampson / omega .

the champion has great rep and many faithful followers and ive seen one at a store and can say its made rock solid . its simple and sturdy . but i guess the juice it makes may be more foamier than the sampson / omega , plus the champion may heat up juice a little . but still without seeing the others for myself for construction quality and seeing the foaminess factor for myself im still including the champion because i bet itll last as long as anything - its solid . and if you get the champ ide say pay the extra like $20 for commercial model for the larger motor , plus get the black one rather than the white one because the white plastic shows juice stains more than the black .

and i think the acme is another more expensive model that i eliminated like the green star because i wont pay $400 for a juicer , $200's bad enough .

my bottom line is im impressed with the long term rep of the champion and its rock solid construction so its in the running against sampson and omega . but ive got to see the sampson / omega to determine the solidness of their designs .

[dreamrawalwz]

ok thanks. So it's down to Sampson, Champion, and Omega. Maybe I can find a website that has comparisons.

[michigan roman]

http://www.discountjuicers.com/lowrpmjuicers.html

above is a link to an great site describing juicers . besides the page this link brings you to there are many more pages at the site dedicated to juicers .

[tinystrawberry]

i have a champion and i like it. the juices are a little foamy (i don't have any other juicer to compare it to though) but if you strain it again it's not as bad. it makes delicious juice :D

[dreamrawalwz]

http://www.discountjuicers.com/lowrpmjuicers.html

above is a link to an great site describing juicers . besides the page this link brings you to there are many more pages at the site dedicated to juicers .

It's a great site, but I'm a little leary. I'm used to the juicers I've had that have the shoots on the back where the pulp goes into as you juice. The above ones don't seem to have that. Does the pulp just stay in where the filter thing is or go somewhere else? I tried the Acme from a coworker and the pulp just stayed inside and wouldn't produce nearly as much juice as my jack lalane. It wouldn't juice strawberries at all.

[michigan roman]

on these type juicers the juice comes out below the feed tube , and the pulp comes out at the end of the tube . you place a bowl under the end of tube to catch pulp . so the pulp doesnt stay in machine at all . plus you can search and go to the manufactorers home pages where most have display videos showing how they work .

[michigan roman]

ok heres the champion link =


http://www.championjuicer.com/

and heres the samson =

http://www.samsonjuicer.com/

the omega =

http://www.omegajuicers.com/

[FirstGarden]

Ladies & Gentlemen!

In this corner is the heavyweight Champion of the world - The CHAMPION JUICER, weighing in at a whopping 26 pounds! It's record virtually unrivaled.. it can, by sheer brawn & stamina, outlast any juicer in the world! The Champion has only suffered one loss in its long career - and that, by TKO (technical knockout). Were there more rounds in that most controversial fight, many believe the Champion would have prevailed in the end!

In the other corner is the undefeated middleweight champ - The Samson Juicer - weighing in at 14.6 pounds! But don't be fooled by the weight, folks! Weight isn't everything in the juicer championship! Like they say, "good things come in small packages," and that's certainly true of the Samson! Strong & agile, it can potentially outjuice any opponent in the ring! Up against the Champion, an old "slugger" who prefers an "outside fight," the Samson, a younger, more versatile contender, might easily outpoint it with some serious uppercuts and overhand rights!

So, the jury is totally out on this one, folks!
And the stakes are high!

All bets are on!

"DING! DING! DING!"

[michigan roman]

firstgarden if those are the actual weights it sure makes me think champion because i bet that extra weight means the motors like near twice as powerful and thusly shall really outlast the smaller motors .
and since i see you have a champ im wondering how fast does it turn compared to a centrifugal juicers . like half as fast or quarter as fast etc ?

[FirstGarden]

M.R. & friends,

Here's some specs on both from the manufacturers:

The Champion Juicer Is Durable

Powered by a full 1/3-horsepower, heavy duty General Electric motor, the Champion Juicer is powerful, durable and built to last. All juicer parts are made from 100 percent FDA accepted nylon and stainless steel. The Champion Juicer's body is lined with a special stainless steel which is almost wear-free and will not pick up food odor. A special heavy-duty Commercial Champion* Juicer, ideal for juice bars and restaurants is also available.* If you are overseas, a 220 volt Champion Juicer and 240 volt Champion Juicer are also available.

A Champion Offers...

Large Feeding Chamber - 1 3/4 inches in diameter, able to take large vegetables without cutting them into smaller pieces.

Motor Shaft
Stainless Steel

Horsepower
1/3 HP

Watts
540 watts

RPM
1725

Operating Voltage
110 volts
110 or 220
volts

What's the difference between the household and commercial champion juicers?

Basically the commercial model is just a bit more heavy duty, for commercial use or for people that want to get a more powerful version.* They look identical except for the above motor specifications.


SAMSON

5-year warranty on parts and labor
10-year warranty on motor

Quick and easy cleaning
The simplest assembly
Extracts healthy, pure juice without hazardous chemicals
Higher yield, with drier pulp
Low 80 RPM speed insures the highest nutritional value
Excellent for wheatgrass and all leafy greens

Specifications:

Weight: 14.6 lbs.

Size: Length: 15" Width: 12" Height: 7"

Voltage: 120 volts/ 60hz

160 Watts

Motor: Single Phase Induction Motor 1,750 rpm

Auger Speed: 80 RPM

Extraction Method: Patented. Mill Type Single Gear.

Squeezine Power: about 1.5 Horsepower

Motor Capacity 1/3 HP

Gear Length: 6 14/25" total

Construction: Thick Plastic Housing with Melamine Gear, Metal Juice Screens in PC Frame

Parts to clean after use: 1 gear, 1 housing piece, screen & pusher

Warranty: 10 years for motor, 5 years for other parts

The photos below are not to scale with each other. Thus the Samson looks bigger. In reality, they're around the same size.

[michigan roman]

thanx for the report firstgarden . i see champion is at 1725 rpm's , and samson is 80 rpm's .
so the samsons turning much slower which should mean much less foam imo and as said by cancer healers that juice a much healthier juice .
now i need to see a samson in order to determine its sturdiness level .

[FirstGarden]

I can see more compelling reasons to consider the Samson than heat generation. The only time the Champion got at all hot on me was with real stringy vegetables. Even then I doubt if it ever approached cooking temperatures. Everything, regardless, seemed as raw as could be. :cool:

Nice to know, though, that the Samson seems to have just as good a warranty.

What I'd like to know is why the Champion weighs nearly twice as much?

Having worked in home electronics & appliances 25 years, I have a pretty good idea why.

If you want one that never quits, and your needs are simple, get the Champion.

If you need versatility and still want a decent machine, get the Samson.

If you care about the difference between metal & plastic, (all that weight difference isn't for nothing) and you want quality over quantity...?

[Dj 247]

I bought Jack's Elite juicer and I like it okay. It even makes almond milk. I don't think my juice is very foamy. It is larger than I thought it would be. It is easy to use. For just juice and almond milk it works good, but it doesn't do all the things the other juicers do such as the Champion. It cost about the same price though. It also says you can do wheatgrass, but I haven't tried that yet.

[RawVee]

I bought a Breville Fountain juicer and I love it. The pulp is super dry, not a lot of froth, and powerful. Also, I got it at Bed Bath and Beyond and used my 20% off coupon. :)

[michigan roman]

dreamrawalwz ,

ive also been thinking about not getting a new juicer but rather a better blender (im liking the ktec but am gonna plug along with my cheapie one cuz the ktecs $4oo :eek: ) and adding a couple cups of water then fruit or vegi and blending to a liquid then straining (this just for fasting purposes , when not fasting ide just make smoothies) . i bet youd get more out of your produce with this method and the blender and strainer would be easier to clean than a juicer . plus the blender does other things . so im looking at going without a juicer . im gonna blend a pineapple tonite or tomorrow to test the method and i'll report back on it .

[michigan roman]

well i put a couple cups of water and half a pineapple in my cheap blender and it blended up pretty quick . then it strained easily for a good juice .
plus it taste better just as a smoothie with out straining . so im not buying a juicer , just a better blender when my current one gets turned into drift wood . and the only time i'll strain the pulp is on a juice fast . the juicer just became obsolete in my house .