Sparkling H20 with juice??

[Patticake]

hello there. i was just wondering if sparking mineral water like Perrier is okay for raw food living...particularly the lemon or lime ones. I LOVE putting them in my juices for some added fizz. I don't like soda, but a little fizz is exciting for the taste buds. I have never read anything against it, or for it, in any raw books soooo...whatcha think?

Patti

[spicyfull]

I think.....If you Love it, do it.

[JGex]

I drink it by the case.....

[luckitri]

Yes sometimes when it is super hot I like that extra in my juice to really quench my thirst. Never thought about it as raw or not raw before.

[LightLover]

Carbonated water is pretty acidic I thought..

LL

[JGex]

Carbonated water is pretty acidic I thought..

LL

People drink seltzer water for upset tummies..... if it were acidic, wouldn't it make it worse?

:confused:

[katrina]

Is it healthy to drink the carbon?

[Veganforlife]

I personally wouldn't.

Definitions of carbonated water on the Web:

soda water: effervescent beverage artificially charged with carbon dioxide
www.wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Carbonated water, also known as soda water, sparkling water, or seltzer water, is water containing carbon dioxide, which bubbles out when the drink is depressurised. When bottled or supplied for final consumption without flavoring, it may be called club soda.
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonated_water

[JGex]

OK, now I'm really curious... does anyone have anything definitive on this? I can't find anything that says it's unhealthy.

Carbonated water is sold at ALL of the higher end natural food stores I've been in. Lots of mineral water (S.Pelligrino is what I usually drink) is carbonated and water "with gas" is extremely populat in Europe.

If it was bad for you, would it be sold in HFS?


http://watercenter.unl.edu/FAQs.asp

Q: If traveling overseas, in which countries is the water safe to drink?
A: Besides the U.S. and Canada, the water is generally safe to drink in western Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Japan. In other countries, you should insist on carbonated bottled water for drinking and brushing your teeth.

From what I understand, fermented foods manufacture their own carbon dioxide.... like the kombucha tea we've been discussing.

They're now manufacturing "fizzy fruit" that is injected with CO2.

Sodium bicarbonate is used to neutralize stomach acid.

Carbonation is sometimes used for reasons other than consumption, to lower the pH (raise the hydrogen ion concentration) of a water solution.

Actually, the most disturbing thing I discovered is that San Pellegrino is owned by Nestlé.

[Veganforlife]

Here's an answer from Dr. Weil:

Q Confused About Carbonation?
The carbonation in canned soda has been cited as detrimental to bone health. Does the natural carbonation in waters such as Perrier also pose a risk for bones?
A Answer (Published 1/2/2003)

Updated on 4/4/2005

I can give you a number of reasons to avoid drinking colas and other sodas but the carbonation they contain is not one of them. The notion that the carbonation in sodas is bad for bones comes from studies performed in the early 1990s which suggested that drinking carbonated beverages, specifically colas, raises the risk of bone fractures among adolescent girls and older women (former college athletes). No such association was found for non-cola drinks. The researchers also found that a high intake of calcium was protective.

A study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (September 2001) looked at the question of whether carbonated beverages increase urinary excretion of calcium. If so, this effect might provide a plausible link between consumption of carbonated beverages and an increased risk of fractures.

Researchers from the Osteoporosis Research Center at Creighton University found that excess urinary excretion of calcium occurred only when the carbonated beverages consumed contained caffeine. At least one earlier study had suggested that caffeine consumption can have a deleterious effect on bone health if not counteracted by sufficient calcium. The Creighton researchers found that the caffeine effect they saw was balanced by less excretion of calcium later in the day so that the net result was only a negligible loss of calcium. This led them to conclude that any effect on bone associated with carbonated drinks would stem from lowered calcium intake due to displacement of milk as a beverage. Incidentally, this study was sponsored by the dairy industry, which would have had an interest in the opposite result.

I wouldn't worry about the carbonation in sodas. My concerns about consumption of soft drinks focus more on the unhealthy amounts of sugar, artificial sweeteners and caffeine they contain. The carbonation itself is not a problem, and Perrier and other carbonated mineral waters are perfectly safe.

Andrew Weil, M.D.

[Veganforlife]

If I choose to drink a carbonated beverage I guess I would want it to be natural carbonation, not artificially induced.

[JGex]

OK, thanks Lucy! That's a good enough answer for me. I can't even stand the taste of sodas any more. I quit drinking those years ago.

:D

[Elizabeth]

and drink them all the time... well, frequently. I love them in the evening in a lovely crystal goblet...:D with a selection of perfect fruits and a few nuts...

I just found another brand with higher calcium levels..which comes in lime and lime/raspberry. A bit pricey though..but, compared to coke..lol..it is a deal.

Thanks for the link from Dr. Weill... I have had people claim that all bubbly water was bad for you..lol..and am glad to have the quote for future use.

Some info on perrier..

http://www.bottledwaterweb.com/bottlersdetail.do?k=253

cheers!!! ;)

[katrina]

I just wonder how safe it is to ingest carbon dioxide into the blood stream when that is a substance that the body normally expels. I wonder if it interfers with the amount of oxygen in the blood?

[Princess Elaine]

Years ago I spent two weeks at Optimum Health Institute in San Diego and they said any carbon dioxide wasn't good and they said, as Katrina posted, it's what we expel from our bodies so why would we want to put more in...I know for me I quit drinking any carbonated water more then 10 years ago on that premise...but I'm open to learn and what was truth in one study can be changed with another.

(I used to drink a lot of Perrier yet no longer miss it)...

Oh, this may be TMI...after about 6 or 7 years without any carbonation I had a can of soda...and to put it mildly the bottom fell out if ya know what I mean...had to have been the carbonation cuz at that time I was still drinking coffee/caffeine....that horrible experience was enough to make carbonation a no no for me...I will NEVER forget that day.

Elaine

[JGex]

I just wonder how safe it is to ingest carbon dioxide into the blood stream when that is a substance that the body normally expels. I wonder if it interfers with the amount of oxygen in the blood?

Carbon dioxide is 2 parts oxygen and one part carbon.