View Full Version : Long time raw fooder Quest.: Reactions to meds/ or anesthesia?
Mishka
03-28-2007, 06:32 PM
Hi all...
There has been something in the back of my mind that is bugging me. So I'm just going to get it out here. I've been wondering...after you've been a raw foodist for a long time, and you are more "pure" or cleansed....how does your body respond to meds. or anesthesia ? I mean ....what if your in an accident. I'm talking trauma..so you need EMS, you are out of it, can't communicate that you are a raw foodist (and it's not like we wear bracelets that we are raw ,like an allergy prone person would)....how would your body respond to normal hospital meds? Would our body freak out and reject them?
I'd be very interested to hear anyones reaction to this. Thanks for sharing!!!
Warmly,
Mishka
Conscious Midwife
03-28-2007, 06:38 PM
For sure there would be faster healing and better pain management.
With a cleaner lymphatic and circulatory system one might have little need for antibiotics and anesthesia would probably be effective in low doses.
Think of the old wild west movies where men could get bullets removed with just a shot of whiskey down the hatch and on the wound.
Or even women today in "underdeveloped nations" delivering babies while chewing on roots , nursing and then going back to work withinn 6 hours.
My 3rd pregnancy was vegan, my labor was precipitous ( 45min) and i delivered my son within 4min of his head crowning with no assistance other than the nurse saying don't push while she tried to hold his head in with one gloved hand, 'cause the doctor was down the hall eating doughnut.
dreamrawalwz
03-28-2007, 07:52 PM
That's actually one of my fears. I'm sure there will be faster healing over all, but if you're administered something while your unconscience I'm sure your body will react MUCH quicker and violently isn't the word, but...more than the "normal" person.
Stina
03-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Made me think of having read that people who are serious meditators often come up out of anesthesia whole on the operating table and start speaking! Also, I've observed that after people I know have been under they have serious nightmares for some time afterwards, and I suspect they're detoxing anesthesia.
Sunshine9
03-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I do think it's an issue. If you're really concerned, put a note or card in your wallet. Also notify your in case of emergency people how you would want to proceed.. maybe even write a letter.
Mishka
03-29-2007, 12:16 AM
But honestly... I don't know that most people in a working hospital are aware enough of what a raw foodist is, much less know how we'll respond to meds.. I haven't seen or heard of any research on this. If anyone knows that would be great. I would really like to know more.
I work at a hospital...and it just seems like it could turn into one mistake after another...due to us being an "unknown" populace. If people are having such strong reactions to going back to cooked food alone...much less... potent meds. or anesthetic? Isn't it a concern?
And yes , I do believe we'd heal faster etc. etc. I'm just concerned about what they'd put into us, and how our systems would not react like the average Joe. Thus the treatment protocols not being affective but actually damaging to us.
Even before raw...(this is a family/genetic thing with me) I metabolized meds extremely quickly. As in : waking up in the middle of my knee surgery....needing 5 shots of novacaine to get a cavity filled...they gave me versed before surgery to make me doppie, and the normal dose didn't even touch me. I could go on. Good thing I never got into drugs I'd never get my moneys worth. So I'm wondering how others that are raw respond to meds. Any stories out there????
Lifeisagift~ that sounds like an incredible delivery!!! Natures way is the Best! What a blessing for you and your child!
Sunshine9~ I like the card idea! And actually if it comes to RFID tagging..which a bunch of hospitals are already starting to implement, it could be put on our medical record that way. (not that I'm an advocate of that system) But it may be a part of our immediate future.
Thanks for sharing :)
Mishka
Rawmommie
03-29-2007, 05:10 AM
I was recently put under for surgery (cut the tendon in my thumb and had to have it repaired) and given painkillers, IV, antibiotics and did just fine. (relatively). I have never reacted very well to painkillers of any kind. They made me cry and feel awful so I stopped taking them. I also didn't finish the antibiotics b/c I don't want them in my system. Being put out went normal for the surgery and my biggest problem was the same as I had long ago when I wasn't raw...constipation...BAD...for a week afterwards. I luckily had my mom here for my recovery, making my salads and smoothies every day for me! :)
Mishka
03-29-2007, 03:37 PM
Karen~
I'm so glad to hear everything went ok. How is your hand doing now? Are you recovering quickly? Thanks for sharing your experience!
Warmly,
Mishka
punkspirit
03-29-2007, 04:29 PM
With a cleaner lymphatic and circulatory system anesthesia would probably be effective in low doses.
I think its not in every case like that...
I had a lot of surgeries either with general anestetic or only local anestetic... to that time I had been on a high raw level for several month.
I needed unbelievable amounts of aenestetika beacause(as i guess) my body(with quite clean systhem) was decomposing the toxines faster than ususal...
On one surgery (local anestetic) the doctor had to increase the dose 5 (!!!) times... you should have seen his face...
when i was muttering that it hurt like hell... he allways said.. you shouldnt feel anything at all!!! but the whole procedure was painfull..:o
Afterwards I felt bad coz of the pain in the wounds and took painkillers... but I didnt notice so much detoxification at all... well my head was eased away anyway ;)
Pierre
03-29-2007, 07:37 PM
I just got back from the dentist where I had some teeth filled. My reaction to the anesthesia was as usual; I thought I could have taken less, and I once had a tooth filled with no anesthesia at all. When I got back, I felt hungry for an avocado, possibly because I need the fat for detox.
pearlgirl
03-29-2007, 07:54 PM
I read where one raw food book author wears an ID bracelet just like others with special medical care needs. If memory serves right, his theory was that having traditional western medicine really could hurt him worse than those that don't eat raw. I guess it was his way of addressing this issue. Hope it helps and don't worry I wonder about this same issue too.:)
Mishka
03-30-2007, 12:00 AM
Thanks for responding...
Punkspirit...sounds like we have similar metabolisms when it comes to our liver breaking down meds quickly. I do almost better with nothing at all when it comes to pain killers after surgery too...barely touches it (the pain) so why bother?! I'm learning deep breathing and prayer seems to help me get my focus away better anyways.
Pierre...I'm glad you had a normal reaction to the meds at the dentist. Do you react when you go back to cooked food at all? Yeah...avocado is totally a comfort food for me too. Instead of passing the bread nowadays...I'm like..give me that avocado!!! LOL...you deserve after going to the dentist.!
Pearlgirl...Thanks, I appreciate that. Glad not to feel so alone in my concern. Ultimately, I wonder (at this point anyways) if having I.D. about being a raw foodist would even make an impact? I can just imagine the paramedic looking at the tag saying..."And this means what? They like their fruits and veggies naked?". lol... KWIM??
I should bring this up at a hospital board meeting...or something like that....but I guess I'm jaded a bit. I've had so many medical dr.'s tell me what a joke "raw" is and all the reasons it is unhealthy. I think until there is actually some research done on "us" to show how our blood, body temp, blood pressure, metabolism etc. is "different" western medical doctors will just do the same ol' thing as they do with every other pt.. Something to increase the "raw foodist class" awareness.
So I guess the question is...any millionares out there willing to donate some money to get the research done? ;)
We are paving the way for a whole new type of human being, and I for one am fascinated in the differences!
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