Suggestions for non-fruit ways to get fiber

[eatyourbroccoli]

soo my digestion has slowed quite a bit the past few days...ive been doing no-sugar for 12 days now. at first i was like "oh no somethings wrong"...but then after reevaluating my diet ive realized ive been living on salads and celery (with lots of fat, of course..like avos..)

BUT salad only has about 0.5 grams of fiber per 1 cup..and even at my 20 or so cups a day, thats only 10 grams of fiber. and then celery is about the same in fiber, and i maybe have 3 or 4 stalks a day, if even. so all in all, im averaging probably no more than 15 grams of fiber a day..

the recommended amount per day for a woman is about 25 grams.

any ideas on how i can up this without incorporating fruit? when i was living on berries before, i was goin 3-4 times a day..so im pretty sure its a fiber issue.

i bought some raw flax meal..do you think incorporating this into my avo salad dressing would be helpful? :confused:

i do have an all-natural fiber supplement made from like..psyllium husk and apple pectin or something..but im ehhh about supplementing in that way.

[solarliving]

what about vegetables?
Broccoli, zucchini, non-sweet fruits like cucumbers, bell peppers.
Chia seed

[Linda1970]

soo my digestion has slowed quite a bit the past few days...ive been doing no-sugar for 12 days now. at first i was like "oh no somethings wrong"...but then after reevaluating my diet ive realized ive been living on salads and celery (with lots of fat, of course..like avos..)

BUT salad only has about 0.5 grams of fiber per 1 cup..and even at my 20 or so cups a day, thats only 10 grams of fiber. and then celery is about the same in fiber, and i maybe have 3 or 4 stalks a day, if even. so all in all, im averaging probably no more than 15 grams of fiber a day..

the recommended amount per day for a woman is about 25 grams.

any ideas on how i can up this without incorporating fruit? when i was living on berries before, i was goin 3-4 times a day..so im pretty sure its a fiber issue.

i bought some raw flax meal..do you think incorporating this into my avo salad dressing would be helpful? :confused:

i do have an all-natural fiber supplement made from like..psyllium husk and apple pectin or something..but im ehhh about supplementing in that way.

Hi EYB,

I think flax will be helpful. However, I highly recommend buying flax seeds and grind them yourself, rather than buying flax meal. The oil that is exposed after grinding is highly unstable and becomes rancid easily.

[eatyourbroccoli]

solar..i do cukes and peppers, too in my salads. doesnt seem to be giving me that oomph i need, i guess. and i dont..really..like broccoli anymore.. ::hangs head in shame given her user name:: :p

linda..ill try and do that.

thanks to both of you. its can be difficult trying to adapt the raw diet to the candida diet sometimes :o

dont have much of a choice though :rolleyes:

[Damzlfly]

granny smith apples are good - they are not sweet and allowed on a no sugar diet (I'm on one right now)

[being]

The only other thing I can think of is perhaps blending your salads? I used to have really sluggish bowels and when I began blending a head of lettuce with a cuc, a bell pepper, a few tomatoes, some lime juice etc... anything else in there too, and sprinkling the ground flax on top, BMs got superregular in a matter of 2 or 3 days. Maybe the blending was simply an improvement on my chewing skills....

As for the raw diet-candida diet, have you ever browsed Gabriel Cousens' book Conscious Eating, or the Rainbow-Live Green Food (or whatever it's called :rolleyes: ) I know his research is certainly geared towards low-sugar, no-sugar etc. and there are a ton of recipes in his books, as well as information.

I don't know if you are eating some fruit, but I've always had great results with apples. Those guys are high fiber and with all the pectin... sometimes things get a little loose but it'll certainly get things moving. Maybe Granny Smiths' or a similar sour/tart apple? !!! Oh same posting time as Damzlfly !!! - Great minds think alike, or fools never differ?!!

Good luck...

*Definitely give the ground flax a try. I used to drink a bit stirred into a tall glass of water with some lemon juice morning and night... just slowly increase from 1/4 tsp. or so or it'll just exacerbate the problem...

[Damzlfly]

!! Oh same posting time as Damzlfly !!! - Great minds think alike, or fools never differ?!!

;) great minds!

[Veganforlife]

How about hemp powder added to smoothies?

[tinystrawberry]

I don't know if flax seeds count, but I just googled "high fiber raw foods" and this came up

Almost All Fiber
Flax!! There is almost no usable carbohydrate in flax seeds. It is very high in both soluble and insoluble fiber (about one third of the fiber is soluble), and has a pile of nutrients to boot. Flax is just could be the ultimate low carb fiber source. 1 T ground flax has 2.0 grams of carbohydrate, 1.9 of which is fiber.


and blackberries are pretty high, and I think they're low sugar fruits, but they are fruits :p

[eatyourbroccoli]

okee thanks guys :)

im guna use the apple as a last last resort. for now im gunna try blending everything, adding flax meal, and making sure im gettin enough water.

i mean, its not a chronic case here. i went yesterday, just not as "fully" as normal. i just havent gone today yet and thats unusual for me :cool:

im not bloated really, though..and have actually lost a lb since yesterday. so whatevers up im sure is no big deal.

thanks for all of the suggestions!

[solarliving]

Flax seems to stop me up.

Apples have always helped me.

[cassidy]

Hey EYB -
I just made raw garden burgers - the recipe used 6tbsp flax! Serious poo food :eek: ! I'll send you the recipe if you want... It's delicous!
No sugar involved.

[eatyourbroccoli]

id love the recipe! :D

[So Delightedly Raw]

Hey EYB -
I just made raw garden burgers - the recipe used 6tbsp flax! . . . I'll send you the recipe if you want... It's delicous!
No sugar involved.

Hi cassidy, Would you, could you please post the recipe??
Sounds interesting. Delicious sounds worth knowing.:p

[cassidy]

Check your email(s) :)

[cassidy]

Ok... Is it OK to post from books? I'm thinking no, but eh, oh well.....
this is from The Complete Book of Raw Food

Sun Garden Burgers:

6tbsp flax seed (ground)

3/4 cup water

2 cups sunflower seeds, ground

2 cups carrot pulp (from 4 to 6 carrots... I didn't drink the juie. Too much sugar?)

1 cup finely chopped celery

3/4 cup chopped onion

4tbsp parsley

4 tbsp minced red pepper (LOL.. the first time I made these I used red pepper flakes ... WHOA! don't do that.. they were good but HOT!)

1tbsp ssea salt plus 1 tbsp water

Make the carrot pulp by juicing the carrots

Blend flax seed with water ( I didn't do this)

In a bowl, stir everything together. Add water if necessary.

Make patties and dehydrate (or leave in the sun: sun burgers) 4 - 6 hours.

I topped with creamy avo and tomato sauce

Tomato sauce:

6 sun dried tomatos, soaked

2 cupps chopped tomatoes

10 basil leaves (I used dried)

pinch paprika

1 red pepper (I used yellow... all I had)

Blend in food processor. It calls for dates... but I just ommited them and it was still really tasty!

This is a really yummy meal. One of the best raw meals I've made I think!

Hope you like it!

[eatyourbroccoli]

woo i know what im eating tomorrow night! thankyouu

[misslinda]

* thoughts *


higH FAT??????????:eek:

I'd start backing away from fats b/c --fats slow down the healing process~~your LIVER is the crucial in this process.....

I would slowly taper the greens and start testing which low glycemic fruits you can tolerate. Even if it is once a day for startersit may be a little discomfort BUT the natural cleansing detergents will carry out what has already been in the healing process. It will balance it self out.

As far as greens, I would let go of celery and the other harder to digest greens and do more soft ones like babay spinach, green leaf,red leaf.....

For your type of repsonse, have you consdiered taking threelac at night and then one in the morning?

[spicyfull]

Ask and you Shall Recieve..........

[eatyourbroccoli]

oh boo. i knew my avocados were too good to be true.

well, i have a hard time with olive oil ive come to find out, so i guess i could just eat all my different lettuces (romaine, baby spinach, mixed greens in general blahblah) dry...

i feel so trapped :( . i cant add fruits back in yet..any small amount of sugar sends a crazy response through my body and ultimately results in my skin breaking out. a few days back i had LEMON in my water, and this happened..and its lemon. which is like, no sugar. and alkalinizing. and tonifying. and sure it may have been detox..but ive been journaling my food intake and symptoms for the past 4 months..and the same pattern occured exactly as it always has before. 2 days later of strict no-sugar again, and my skins healing up nicely.

ive become very very intolerant to onions, cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, almonds...and im sorta left with eating cukes, celery, greens, avocado.

blah. im sure youre right though about the fat though. maybe i should do a veggie juice fast. i was worried about being backed up on a veggie juice fast bc of no fiber, but here i am backed up anyhow. at least veg. juice would allow more energy to be focused elsewhere.

maybe i should just be knocked out and fed coconut water intravenously for 3 months so i can wake up cured :p

ok, just kidding.

[misslinda]

this is only my opinion as you are the sole authority of your health but here's what I'm thinking

You have been 12 days and high fat. Down the fat considerbly and slowly start doing a fruit w/soft greens. There's going to be a point where the fruit/fiber needs to be introduced.....dicomfort is fine as it will level out as you are healing...the major healing crisis of my "auto-immune," got 3 times worse one day I woke up and it was gone.......kid you not.

Remember fruits are cleansing but low glycemic until you balance.

Are you eating b/c you are hungry? true appetite?

Lemon water is very cleansing.......try grapefruit juice as well. YOu dont' have to drink it all at once, do it sparingly so that way your body with it's changes can adapt.

Dont be afraid ;)

[eatyourbroccoli]

i havent had much of an appetite at all the past two days. ive been eating in hopes of it pushing things out the other end :rolleyes:

and dont worry, i always appreciate your opinions!

[misslinda]

i havent had much of an appetite at all the past two days. ive been eating in hopes of it pushing things out the other end :rolleyes:

and dont worry, i always appreciate your opinions!


EYB, if you don't have an appetite, best not to eat. Your body seems like it has reached apoint where it wants to divert it's energy into what going on now with the three lac,the greens that are alkalizing and more than likely tyring to balance out the fat.

Can I email you?

[eatyourbroccoli]

yes of course :)

[RawNnyc]

EYB, I'm so sad reading this. I've been doing the high fat low sugar thing like you said last week and I've been doing A LOT better. Now I'm reading that the fruit is really what is needed, and fat just masks problems? I don't know.......I'm sick of being in pain every day and the fat has taken that pain away. Is high fat really not working for you anymore?

[Damzlfly]

RawNnyc - everyone is different. Please don't take what you are reading in every post as what to do for you. Listen to your body. If you feel good on a high fat low sugar diet, then continue it as this is what you're body needs!! You're body will tell you what it needs. Make sure you incorporate a variety of foods into your diet (greens, fruits, fats) and you will be fine. Right now I could eat a pound of dates but I wont because thats the candida craving...not me. Just go with it. You can still eat fruits on a low sugar diet, just make sure they are the tart ones - ie grapefruit, lemon, lime, cranberry etc.

[eatyourbroccoli]

no it is working..im just a bit stopped up. ive battled on and off slow digestion for a couple years now as a result of candida though

[cassidy]

Are you sure you want to start adding sugars already? Isn't that what the yeast feeds off of? Maybe you should just do as Miss Linda recommends and not eat when you arn't hungry. Stay away from sugar for 2 weeks to a mos?
Maybe you could do a saltwater flush? Get some Senna leaf tea (lax.)? I would stick to what you are doing until you've killed off those buggers!
Can you afford a colonic? Even, I know, yuk... a store bought enema?

[eatyourbroccoli]

yea im not gunna add sugar back yet. i dunno what im gunna do exactly. yesterday was my first day with 100% no sugar (one of my supplements had sugar in it, but i eliminated it as of yesterday) and now im lying in bed this morning dizzy and wanting to throw up like how you feel right before you pass out. i dunno whats up. this has happened to me once before the morning after a day of water fasting, but i ate a good amount yesterday, including a good amount of fat..so i dont know. i had some apple juice the day after water fasting and it made me feel better literally within 1 minute..so im assuming it has something to do with low blood sugar.

so sick of random obstacles..but i guess its making me stronger :cool:

[cassidy]

I've been feeling dizzy too. Especially if I stand up to quickly and right when I get out of bed...
Also, this morning, I feel like I just drank espresso - I feel like I have massive amounts of energy. Nice after the last few days of being dead tired.

I don't know what to tell you! Maybe try a green apple? I've read that they and other low Glycemic Index foods are allowed on the cleanse (one serving a day). Or try as miss Linda suggested and drink some grapefruit juice throughout the day. If I get to the point YOU are at I deffinantly wouldn't be opposed to trying it.

I hope you feel better!

[eatyourbroccoli]

aw well thanks cassidy..im ok, i know im just cleansing.

if anyone experiences any sluggish digestion while doing the raw candida cleanse, i suggest the elm water that misslinda posts the recipe to. i took it this morning upon waking, and my normal "2 hours after waking" BM has returned today. yay..step in the right direction!

i also feel a bit better after, too. im just gunna take it easy today..im sure its just a stage of detox and ill be feelin better by tomorrow :cool:

[eatyourbroccoli]

ooo..also, im gunna probably just do light foods and liquid today, BUT my moms making those sun burgers tonight for dinner :D she said they sounded great so im gunna help make em. ill probably have a taste so ill let ya know how we liked em..though from the ingredients i dont know how we wouldnt :)

[eatyourbroccoli]

ok 3 posts in a row. oops.

just wanted to post that i just came across a few articles that talk about the 'herxheimer reaction' when doing any sort of candida cleanse..which is basically like a huge die off and a subsequent 'healing crisis' more or less, that includes dizziness, nausea, weakness..

ill bet my crappy feeling has more to do with dying yeasties from no sugar (no sugar yesterday and no sugar the day i water fasted) than it does with low blood sugar. especially since my fast blooding sugar was a bit high last time i had it tested.

woo healing :D

::crawls back to bed:: :o

[vwinters]

We’ve had excellent results with flax. It helped me with chronic diarrhea, it helped my partner with intermittent bouts of constipation, and we even give it to our elderly dog to help with his bowel issues.

If you want to research the fiber content of a particular food, I have an excellent website for you.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html (http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html)

In the key word box, type in a word like carrot and submit. Then it will ask you to pick a quantity, 1 medium (61 grams) has 1.7 grams of fiber.

VW
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[tvillemom]

Hi all! I am here with ya...hoping things get better! I HAVE "The Complete Book of Raw Food" and never tried the sunburgers...I'll have to give those a try! I personally am sticking to the low-glycemic fruits like:
everyday: tomatoes, avos (maybe 1/2 of one), cucumber, red bell pepper
lemons, limesevery couple of days I can have: grapefruit, rasberries, blueberries, strawberries, cherries, cranberries, goji berries
maybe once a week: orange, apple, pear, peach, blackberries
This kinda comes from "rainbow green" and I hope to just have 1 fruit a day....to keep things moving. I would also like to think of myself as more HIGH VEGETABLE, NOT HIGH FAT! Maybe this would help???
I'm sure, also adding flax will help.
What is the elm tea???

Wendi

[eatyourbroccoli]

hey VW thanks for that website! ive got some flax and have been thinking of incorporating it more. great to hear positive feedback.

tv..high veg is a great way to think of it :) glad things are going well for you. ive been eating cukes everyday and avos for the past couple of days..doesnt seem to be bothing me. need to cut back on how MUCH avo im eatin, though..just for cleansing purposes personally.

the elm water is slippery elm powder you can get in bulk at most HFS and you take a pinch and put it into 10 oz or so of warm water and let it sit for 15 mins and then drink. on an empty stomach in the morning..an hour before eating anything. i got this from misslinda.

ive tried this twice..the first time didnt help much bc i put too much elm powder..today it worked great. just a full pinch rather than a huuuge pinch i did before

[startootsie]

Hello eatyourbroccoli,

What works for me is, physlluim husk in the morning in water. And make sure to drink a lot of water! How much do you drink anyway? I also heard of the cuke and celery juice, I don't juice it, I blend it with water and it works great too!

Love to all!

Christianna

[eatyourbroccoli]

aboutttt...64 oz a day? which is a little more than half my body weight. and then a 16 oz glass of cuke/celery juice. things seem to be back to normal though. we'll see whatsup tomorrow :)