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autruche
02-02-2007, 03:54 PM
I'm in England, where there don't seem to be many raw vegans, except perhaps in London. Having said that, I just found a couple who host workshops in raw vegan cookery not far from me, which was really exciting - I hope they're wishing me luck from not-so-afar...

I've been vegan and vegetarian (alternating) since I was 6, and I finally 'saw the light' in about September 2005 (I'm 18, so I took my time about it). Unfortunately, I didn't go about things in the best way...

I decided to 'fast', having generally one portion of fruit or veg a day. I realise that this might not have been a healthy option, since I experienced what some anorexics describe as a 'hunger high', and therefore pursued the diet for some months. It was almost as if I was addicted to feeling the tranquility that it induced: I was more directed in my thoughts; I could sleep deeply, and I woke up refreshed and, again, focused on what I had to do that day - rather than being focused on my stomach.

Being without guidance throughout, I may have gone too far. I soon contracted glandular fever (mononucleosis), though I accept that this is a very contagious virus and I might have caught it anyway. My doctor decided that I was anorexic, and my family and friends accepted the diagnosis. I do not. Though I felt terrible when I was ill, the illness came suddenly - it was not preceded by months of fatigue or any other signs of low immunity. I recovered quickly, but I now feel under pressure to eat more than I feel healthy and happy eating. Sometimes it disgusts me, as if I'm a pig to be fattened up before he slaughter.

Following that, I had IBS-like symptoms, because I suddenly shocked my body with a 'normal' (western) diet again. I didn't eat meat, though I occasionally had fish. I knew dairy would upset my stomach more than most things, so I steered clear of that most of the time, too. However, all the IBS advise books I read told me that cooked food would be easier for my body to digest, because it was broken down slightly already. I'm happy to say that I'm really stubborn, and I don't listen to advice unless it sounds good to me (not always so wise...) Cooked food made me feel terrible. I stuck to salads and fruit most of the time, but I still ate processed cereals, bread and processed, pasteurised soya milk.

I had to have very intrusive tests, all of which showed simply that there wasn't anything wrong with my digestive tract (yet), though my immunity was really low and my liver function tests were suggesting I drank too much<!> Finally, I decided that something had to change, and I resorted to the fountain of all knowledge: the Internet (or, at least, the clever people therein :o)

I've been going rawer and rawer (Rhaaa). Now, I'm happy to say that I'm going to the gym around every other day and I feel far stronger. The past 5 days have only boosted my vitality - gym work-outs have been easier than ever, so I've been pushing myself harder and I'm finally feeling happy about myself.

Yet, it's still tough. Of course, my diet is my choice, but eating is nevertheless a very social activity, and one which I do not wish to be excluded from simply because I choose to eat differently from those around me (or indeed, not at all), nor do I want those who care about me to worry unduly. Could you suggest a way by which I allay their fears, and avoid succumbing to the pressure that I wish I could withstand? I am beginning to resent them for encouraging me to follow the same unhealthy eating habits that so many people in western societies do, and from which I wish I could dissuade them.

Even alone, I'm not always strong enough to resist something so apparently innocent as a cashew nut, unroasted and without salt, yet almost certainly processed at very high temperatures, for example. I know I should, but I feel alone.

From tomorrow, I'm going to have a fast for a few days to make up for my errors. Then, no honey, no nuts, no dried fruit, no olives etc. etc., unless I'm positive that they're raw. Bring on the deiciously healthful fruit and veg. (Thank heavens my juicer should arrive tomorrow!)

Please E-mail me if you have any advice to give me. I have so much to learn.

Love, Helen x

TanjaJo
02-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Helen,

Your juicer should be a big help. Some days if I've felt myself getting too "full" from eating a smoothie and a salad, I can juice some stuff and get some extra nutrition. I'm fortunate that my mom happens to believe in the raw food diet. And my husband is catching on. But a lot of other people think it's such an extreme thing to do. I live in a small rural area in Wisconsin. There are a lot of people really into eating organic around here. But I haven't met a raw person yet, in my almost 12 years of living in this area. I cannot imagine finding a raw seminar within a reasonable driving distance. This web site has been a Godsend. It's the best for encouragement. Really a lot of people that really want you to succeed. I hope you don't feel too isolated after being here.

Nimmanu
02-03-2007, 10:20 AM
Hi Helen!

I'm going to answer here instead of emailing you, because I feel certain others might benefit from talking this out all together with us. :)

I am going through something very similar. I'll explain a tad, because even though on the surface, it seems irrelevant, you'll see shortly how it ties in:

I know a lot of folks start this in hopes of losing weight. Well, I started it because I know that my chances of getting diabetes II is very high- almost astronomical. But before I started this dietary lifestyle, I was a body builder (recently begun, only 2 years prior). I also had lived most of my life eating "healthy." I quote because while I was far healthier than most in my eating habits, I was not raw.

I got sick anyway, I got gestational diabetes when I was pregnant. I resented it. In fact, I was furious. I had taken such good care of my body, why the HECK did I get so ill??

Well, I found raw and figured out why (to make a long story short, I won't go into all of that). So now I've started my new healthy dietary lifestyle. Here's the thing, though... I've spent most of my life with people thinking I was nuts for the way that I ate. But I never really had a problem persevering, because I genuinely believed I was doing the best thing for myself. I looked good, I felt better than almost anyone I knew who was in my peer group... I was obviously doing something right, right?

Well, for me, raw has been a rough experience- and it's only been a few days! :eek: Why? Because I've already gone from a strapping, well-muscled 145 pounds down to a scrawney 129 pounds. I look like I have an eating disorder!

So I've lost the ability to say to them, "You know, I must be doing something right, I look good, and I still feel young at 35." Now, I have to try to justify my eating, despite the fact that, within only a few short days, it has left me looking borderline annorexic!

Well, I've decided that I don't care what anyone else says. I look at my baby, and I remind myself that I have something to live for, and something to be healthy for. So I carry around some good raw desserts, and I share them! I make a bag full of fudge, and then I offer it around to people. :) And they try it and they like it!

I put my eating habits out there in a different way. They tell me I need to have a hamburger and put some meat on my bones, and I just chuckle and say, "I want to have nice melons, not beefy flanks, thanks," and wink at them.

Or I say, "Oh, no, I can't ever go back to a diet that makes me restrict how much fudge I can have. Speaking of fudge, would you like some of this? It's mighty tasty!"

I just use some humor, or some positives about my dietary lifestyle to change the subject onto the good reasons why I'm making this change. I start carrying on about how I can now get up in the morning and not want a nap. I carry on about how good I feel, and how much I can lift now.

It's really miraculous... suddenly everyone loses interest in my eating habits and the health of my colon... :confused:

autruche
02-03-2007, 11:28 AM
:cool: That's a really inspiring story and it's made me feel a lot stronger when I try to 'explain' myself. Thank you.

I'm only 18, and I started university in October 2006 only to have to come home again because I was... well, a mess. Apparently I 'needed some good home cooking!'... I don't think so. I feel better than ever, having built myself up the right way, with lots of raw (and as of 6 days ago, hopefully, 100% forever).

In some ways, I'm lucky to be back at home. My parents are nurses, and though they're real believers in 'modern science', they also buy about 80% organic. Apart from persuading them to let me prepare food as I like it (practically unprepared!), and to taste some, too, I've got a good start. (I was worried I'd struggle on my student budget, but I only need to worry about that 8 months from now.) It also means they aren't squeamish. For example, I resorted to desperate measures, and described exactly how I felt after I ate 'dead' foods, and how my body violently resolved to be rid of the toxic rubbish that comes with it (need I say more?). They listened. (Now I only need to persuade them that the coeliac tests were accurate , since they're struggling to accept that 'real' food can make you feel bad. Isn't it fair to say that all humans are 'allergic' to 'dead' foods, since their bodies react in a negative way when they consume them?) Having said that, if I'd told them I was going raw when I went down to 5 and a half stone in December 2006, I they would have got tubes into my stomach within the minute, lol. It's quite ironic that I had to eat (partially) badly to gain weight just to be able to eat well again.

It's so great to hear that someone else has gone through a healing process the raw way, that they feel wonderful, and that they're so resillient in sticking at their chosen way of life. I wish I was braver, but I find it so difficult to risk the weird looks and sometimes even snide remarks that follow when you tell certain people you don't eat cooked food [I]and that you're vegan... I know those people are the ones missing out, and that there are ways - like humour - to persuade them it's not so strange at all, even that they should try it, too ...But I'm still a newbie.

Reading success stories and about other people's coping mechanisms can only help me along the way to reaching where you're at :)

Love, Helen x

P.S. Sorry about all the brackets! I hope I made some sense...
P.P.S. Say hello to your baby from me. I hope [s]he is doing well, too. Is [s]he raw, too, by the way?

Nimmanu
02-03-2007, 12:27 PM
My baby's 14 weeks old, and she's doing pretty well. :) She's been detoxing a little bit, too, by proxy. :( (as in, I think some of my discomfort passed through the breast milk, sadly)...

But yes, she'll be raw when she's old enough to eat solids (she's 3.5 mo now, you don't start solids prior to 6 mo).

She was, in fact, quite the little miracle. And if you look on the second page of this section of the forum, you should find my story about why and how I ended up raw.

Also, as far as the courage to do it... you have the courage. Having courage isn't "not being scared," courage is, "being scared witless, but sucking it up and doing it anyway."

Have you read Alissa's book yet? There's a section where she talks about the importance of the way you present your lifestyle to others. If you present it as if you're deprived of something... they'll be turned off. If you present it as, "woo woo, I get to eat whatever I want, whenever I want... I don't happen to want cooked food because I feel SO SICK when I eat it!" then it's altogether different.

Let's use an analogy (I love those, sorry):

"Hello, my name is Nimmanu. I'm a skinny 35 year old woman with a wierd eating style, a baby that screams half the day, a boyfriend that never shaves, a fat cat, and a messy house. Will you be my friend?"

Or...

"Hello, my name is Nimmanu. I have the most beautiful little baby, you should see her! And you've GOT to meet my boyfriend, he's such a good man. He's kind, funny, considerate- wait, stop me, I could go on all day. We have a kitty, too... she's so cute! She's just as loving as could be, don't come to my house, you might get purred to death. I know my house isn't as neat as it could be, but it's clean and comfortable, and you're most welcome here. Would you like to come over sometime for dinner? Maybe we can get to know each other."




Which person do you want to get to know? Both perspectives are true, for the most part. My little one can be fussy. My boyfriend often neglects to shave. My house is, while clean, not spotless. My cat is fat, but she's a dear lovey thing.

Presentation is half the battle. And how you speak of things is how people will speak of things. If you present your lifestyle as wierd, rather than the norm that people SHOULD be doing (I eat normal for our biology, I think the rest of you folks are a little odd), people will see it that way. If you are "properly" self-depricating, then people will look down on you.

If you present yourself as a wonderful, likeable, intelligent person... what's not to like?

RawTeacherLinda
02-03-2007, 01:38 PM
Well said, the more confident we are about our choices, the more confidence others have about us. We must be proud of ourselves first to inspire others. Best of Health to you,

spicyfull
02-03-2007, 08:00 PM
I wish you everything you need to Stay RAW....Welcome to MY World......

rawpriestess
02-07-2007, 04:02 PM
Welcome welcome welcome


Shazzie