FirstGarden
01-14-2007, 12:14 PM
Hi Everyone
I searched the site on this and didn't find much.
A brief story:
I can't say I really have depression running in my family, and I'm of the persuasion that most such conditions are a product of a modern, abherrated society.
Early in the 1990s, I started getting really ill with three main symptoms - always these three -- muscle aches, fever & weakness. As the '90s progressed, it would happen once every 2 weeks or so, then weekly, then twice a week, then daily! There were days when the weakness was so severe I couldn't go to work, so it was really scary. And doctors really didn't have a clue.
I'll never forget one doctor I saw. I had been researching a lot on candida (yeast overgrowth), autointoxication, fibromyalgia, Bar Epstein virus and the whole gamut of vaguely identified diseases that all masquerade as one another, when in reality it may be none of them at all. I shared my findings with the doctor. Ha! I may as well have shared them with Ronald MacDonold. He said they were all myths. My heart sunk, and I knew right there that I'd not be dealing with this professional, irresponsible joker. (Not all doctors are bad. They just have a very different and inadequate orientation that treats symptoms rather than dealing with causes. This suits the Pharmaceutical Mafia just fine. This is the big money fox that guards the health hen house. They write the medical journals the doctors read and provide every perc imaginable for them).
Long story short, I went to a natural therapist - a little, old, German lady who was a biochemist and did contact reflex analysis. She was wonderful, and genuinely sympathetic to my suffering, unlike the cadre of cold professionals I was used to seeing. And she was not at all greedy in her rates and even seemed to undercharge her patients. She said I had a "triad" of issues with my immune system -- liver, thyroid and pancreas. She gave me 3-4 vials of extracts such as black cohosh and animal (yikes!) extracts. Before long, the symptoms went away. This lasted for about 2 months. Then the symptoms came back. She did more tests and determined I had an infected gall bladder. She may have well been right, as I had some mild, dull pain there since the 80s, on & off, mostly off. But, at this point, there was little she could do for me. But she sure made heroic progress toward solving my illness.
Finally, I went to see an acquaintance of mine who was a Jewish cardiologist named Harry. I loved Harry and he was also a general practitioner. He took a good look at me from his desk and said I looked depressed. I didn't believe it. And I am very slow and cautious about applying labels. I was incredulous! But he insisted. I said, "I find life to be too stimulating and full of purpose to be depressed. How could that be?" But he said it was possible. Also, I had heard of psychosomatic illness and believed in it, but I *never* thought that depression could cause *physical* illness!
AFTER 2 WEEKS ON PROZAC ALL THE SYMPTOMS VANISHED!
As an aspiring Raw Foodist, I hardly want chemicals in my body. I don't want to be the Prozac Prince. It runs against my principles of resisting artificial living, and lining the Pharmaceutical Mafia's pockets with gold. (But, I do recognize that sometimes conditions are so genuinely severe that medications have become necessary. I just believe that in the vast majority of cases it is not, and that society is so brainwashed and media-mesmerized into believing they need all these drugs. All along there are the natural cures that they don't want us to know about.)
If I go off Prozac for a week or so, the difference is so subtle I usually don't notice it. If I start feeling too unstable, the Prozac seems to help.
I have often suspected that years of caffeine and alcohol abuse helped bring the depression on.
Maybe even from the Magical Mystery Tours & Magic Carpet Rides of the '60s, lol, who knows?
The depression persists, even though I still take the prozac and have relinquished the wine.
Effexor makes me hypertensive and I am scheduled to go to a specialist next month to be a guinea pig for yet another drug? You can tell I'm not thrilled at the whole prospect.
These people really don't know what they're doing. Doctors are just guessing. It's like Light. No one knows what it is.. Whether it be waves, particles, packets...? We just have ideas how to manipulate it. Like electricity, we observe the laws that seem to govern it, externally, but we really don't understand it well. The human body is the same way - very complex. The liver alone has over 500 functions. We are "fearfully and wonderfully made." When doctors do a diagnosis, they're really just guessing. Occasionally they even admit it, in spite of their 8 plus years education in biochemistry, surgery & applying expensive Band-Aids. If I sound like I have an attitude here, it's because I do. I am ever against the irresponsible, wildly profiteering, willful ignorance on the part of our professionals and gov't agencies that is CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.
But, I am also thankful for a few dedicated professionals and the expertise of the medical establishment to put together broken bones and deal with crisis situations in general. And I am also thankful that we live in a land of plenty, enjoy great freedom, resource and abundance, wide food selection and so forth.
I still am a caffeine addict. Because I always was such a low energy person, after a cup or three of coffee, people like me begin to feel halfway normal. lol. Getting off isn't all too hard. It's *staying* off. I quit countless times, complete with fasting and every trick I knew. It is such a profound addicton, it's as though it's become a part of my very being. Anyone alse ever feel that way?
But, as a purist in my highest convictions, this is simply not acceptable. And I have always felt that one day I will finally overcome and enjoy great freedom. When I go completely raw and give it time, my hope is that the superior nutritive value of the raw diet will replace missing elements in my body that synthetics can never do, and will lift energy levels beyond the thresholds of depressive experience. Who knows?
Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.
:-{) - a smile with a mustache
I searched the site on this and didn't find much.
A brief story:
I can't say I really have depression running in my family, and I'm of the persuasion that most such conditions are a product of a modern, abherrated society.
Early in the 1990s, I started getting really ill with three main symptoms - always these three -- muscle aches, fever & weakness. As the '90s progressed, it would happen once every 2 weeks or so, then weekly, then twice a week, then daily! There were days when the weakness was so severe I couldn't go to work, so it was really scary. And doctors really didn't have a clue.
I'll never forget one doctor I saw. I had been researching a lot on candida (yeast overgrowth), autointoxication, fibromyalgia, Bar Epstein virus and the whole gamut of vaguely identified diseases that all masquerade as one another, when in reality it may be none of them at all. I shared my findings with the doctor. Ha! I may as well have shared them with Ronald MacDonold. He said they were all myths. My heart sunk, and I knew right there that I'd not be dealing with this professional, irresponsible joker. (Not all doctors are bad. They just have a very different and inadequate orientation that treats symptoms rather than dealing with causes. This suits the Pharmaceutical Mafia just fine. This is the big money fox that guards the health hen house. They write the medical journals the doctors read and provide every perc imaginable for them).
Long story short, I went to a natural therapist - a little, old, German lady who was a biochemist and did contact reflex analysis. She was wonderful, and genuinely sympathetic to my suffering, unlike the cadre of cold professionals I was used to seeing. And she was not at all greedy in her rates and even seemed to undercharge her patients. She said I had a "triad" of issues with my immune system -- liver, thyroid and pancreas. She gave me 3-4 vials of extracts such as black cohosh and animal (yikes!) extracts. Before long, the symptoms went away. This lasted for about 2 months. Then the symptoms came back. She did more tests and determined I had an infected gall bladder. She may have well been right, as I had some mild, dull pain there since the 80s, on & off, mostly off. But, at this point, there was little she could do for me. But she sure made heroic progress toward solving my illness.
Finally, I went to see an acquaintance of mine who was a Jewish cardiologist named Harry. I loved Harry and he was also a general practitioner. He took a good look at me from his desk and said I looked depressed. I didn't believe it. And I am very slow and cautious about applying labels. I was incredulous! But he insisted. I said, "I find life to be too stimulating and full of purpose to be depressed. How could that be?" But he said it was possible. Also, I had heard of psychosomatic illness and believed in it, but I *never* thought that depression could cause *physical* illness!
AFTER 2 WEEKS ON PROZAC ALL THE SYMPTOMS VANISHED!
As an aspiring Raw Foodist, I hardly want chemicals in my body. I don't want to be the Prozac Prince. It runs against my principles of resisting artificial living, and lining the Pharmaceutical Mafia's pockets with gold. (But, I do recognize that sometimes conditions are so genuinely severe that medications have become necessary. I just believe that in the vast majority of cases it is not, and that society is so brainwashed and media-mesmerized into believing they need all these drugs. All along there are the natural cures that they don't want us to know about.)
If I go off Prozac for a week or so, the difference is so subtle I usually don't notice it. If I start feeling too unstable, the Prozac seems to help.
I have often suspected that years of caffeine and alcohol abuse helped bring the depression on.
Maybe even from the Magical Mystery Tours & Magic Carpet Rides of the '60s, lol, who knows?
The depression persists, even though I still take the prozac and have relinquished the wine.
Effexor makes me hypertensive and I am scheduled to go to a specialist next month to be a guinea pig for yet another drug? You can tell I'm not thrilled at the whole prospect.
These people really don't know what they're doing. Doctors are just guessing. It's like Light. No one knows what it is.. Whether it be waves, particles, packets...? We just have ideas how to manipulate it. Like electricity, we observe the laws that seem to govern it, externally, but we really don't understand it well. The human body is the same way - very complex. The liver alone has over 500 functions. We are "fearfully and wonderfully made." When doctors do a diagnosis, they're really just guessing. Occasionally they even admit it, in spite of their 8 plus years education in biochemistry, surgery & applying expensive Band-Aids. If I sound like I have an attitude here, it's because I do. I am ever against the irresponsible, wildly profiteering, willful ignorance on the part of our professionals and gov't agencies that is CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC GOOD.
But, I am also thankful for a few dedicated professionals and the expertise of the medical establishment to put together broken bones and deal with crisis situations in general. And I am also thankful that we live in a land of plenty, enjoy great freedom, resource and abundance, wide food selection and so forth.
I still am a caffeine addict. Because I always was such a low energy person, after a cup or three of coffee, people like me begin to feel halfway normal. lol. Getting off isn't all too hard. It's *staying* off. I quit countless times, complete with fasting and every trick I knew. It is such a profound addicton, it's as though it's become a part of my very being. Anyone alse ever feel that way?
But, as a purist in my highest convictions, this is simply not acceptable. And I have always felt that one day I will finally overcome and enjoy great freedom. When I go completely raw and give it time, my hope is that the superior nutritive value of the raw diet will replace missing elements in my body that synthetics can never do, and will lift energy levels beyond the thresholds of depressive experience. Who knows?
Any thoughts? Thank you in advance.
:-{) - a smile with a mustache