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setsuyu
01-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Hi!! im new here :D I wan't to become raw for weight loss, acne, and asthma and because this diet has no animal products. My only problem is nuts , they have a very high fat content and with two cups of them a day [ I wan't to have 1,500 cals a day ] that is allot of fat . Can I lose with 1,500 cals a day even if a large part of it is from fat? Oh and I'm aiming for a weight loss of 10 lbs a moth, I am about 17 years old, a guy , 5 foot 7 inches tall , and about 190 lbs

luckitri
01-08-2007, 07:27 PM
I am no expert. There are some people here who do know alot about what you speak of. Try search with banana. Its all very individual with each of us. Our bodies are all so different. Depends on amount of physical activity - speed of metabolism. Hormones. Lots of variables.

P.S. I have lost weight with raw but it didn't come off until after I quit looking.

trinity082482
01-08-2007, 09:52 PM
It's true that nuts have fat. But they are good fat. I'm not saying you should go and mow down on a 4lb bag of cashews lol. That would even make me sick. To have nuts in some recipes isnt that bad. Like "pies" for example. Most pies split up into more than 6 pieces.. so your only eating a little at a time, really. Thats how I see it. You can also find recipes that dont have nuts. There are plenty. Or limit your nut recipes if you worry about it. Good luck. Bring Raw should be simple and not so stressful. I learned the hard way :p

setsuyu
01-08-2007, 10:16 PM
It's true that nuts have fat. But they are good fat. I'm not saying you should go and mow down on a 4lb bag of cashews lol. That would even make me sick. To have nuts in some recipes isnt that bad. Like "pies" for example. Most pies split up into more than 6 pieces.. so your only eating a little at a time, really. Thats how I see it. You can also find recipes that dont have nuts. There are plenty. Or limit your nut recipes if you worry about it. Good luck. Bring Raw should be simple and not so stressful. I learned the hard way :p

thank you, but i just wanted to know if i count calories [ 1,500 ] and i don't go over it, will i gain because it is mostly fat? i only eat the nuts for protein, i would like to lose 2 1/2 lbs a week . i will also be burning 500 calories off a day wiht cardio exersize.oh and does anyone know any stores [ like whole foods ] that sell hemp protein powder?-that would be a great alternative to JUST nuts, my mom won't let me order any online :rolleyes:

Pierre
01-08-2007, 11:09 PM
Weight loss on raw doesn't work by counting. You probably have some fat whose only purpose is to store out of the way some toxins that you couldn't get rid of. On raw, you can get rid of them. But you need fat to get rid of them. So you eat raw fat, which dissolves the toxins, and then you can burn up the fat that you were using to store them. So you lose weight by eating fat. These toxins can be trans fats and rancid fats, as well as more toxic things such as pesticides.

StudentforLife
01-08-2007, 11:33 PM
It takes a while for a person starting this to realize that there is no structure or strict rules to this. Eating raw is about freedom, about simplicity. Before you jump into this you should do as much research as you can. Ask your mom if you could buy Alissa's book. I'm sure she would enjoy it too.

Sharon in Colorado
01-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Some people may be able to lose with that much fat, but others won't.

I think what a lot of people new to raw foods forget is what raw is, and the type of food that actually helps a body to heal. It's food that is fresh. People think that a lot of dried, dehydrated and fractionated food like oils is healthy, or health-promoting. It may be healthier than everyday cooked and processed foods but it's not the same as fresh plant food.

Ask yourself why you are eating that amount of nuts. Is it because you are not getting enough fresh food in your diet? It isn't 'bad' to eat nuts, but if you are eating a lot of nuts every single day, as many as you mentioned, it may inhibit your body processes to heal and normalize weight.

If you can't phase it out on your own, you might want to try separating the nuts into smaller portions in snack sized zip bags and let that be your maximum portion. Some folks might think this is wrong - that as long as it's 'raw' you should be able to have it - and that is entirely up to you. But getting stuck in that kind of pattern may not be healthy in the long run.

You just have to do what you think is best for you.

Davylp25
01-09-2007, 12:17 AM
If ya gonna eat lot's of nuts...

EAT LOT'S OF GREENS...

If ya gonna eat lot's of fruits...

Eat Lots of greens...

Or NOT. lol you're body knows. But man counting calories...YIKES... * valley girl voice* ---- I'M SO OVER IT...

No disrepect tho... lol

setsuyu
01-09-2007, 02:39 AM
ok, i don't wan't to eat that amount of nuts , but i need the protein from them.

mysticalend
01-09-2007, 04:00 AM
The key to this is understanding enzymes.

Lipase is the enzyme that breaks down fats (lipids) and yes, nuts have a high fat content. However, when nuts are consumed raw, the lipase within the food breaks down the fats (lipids) in the nuts and in your body.

If you roast these nuts (say, almonds, for example) the enzyme lipase is destroyed, and therefore you are left to consume all of the fattening part of the almond without the enzymes to break it down.

Avocados also have a high lipase content, and many people who need to lose weight find that their bodies crave these types of food in their raw state.

Don't be afraid ... trust your instincts.

Ian

PeachyMama
01-09-2007, 07:17 AM
I know we're not supposed to worry, or count, but 2 cups is a LOT of nuts!

I suggest doing a banana search on protein and reading up on it. You don't need as much protein as you think, and the best sources for protein are leafy greens, not nuts.

Stick to BIG salads and add a sprinling of nuts for crunch and fat. I think you'll do fine with your goals for weight loss AND your protein needs. Look on the forum for ideas for making green smoothies ... another great protein source ... not to mention a fantastic way to take in a LOT of greens.

girlsmiley
01-09-2007, 07:31 AM
2 cups per day is a lot of nuts :eek:

It's not necessarily our perception of *protein* that we need, it is the amino acids and they are in fruits, vegetables, and greens. Where do cows get theirs from ... grass! :D

In a class I took last fall, Wellness 101, it was pointed out that we eat too much protein. Their suggestion was 70-80% of our diet should be complex carbohydrates, 10-15% protein, and 10-15% fat. This class did not necessarily promote a vegetarian diet although they promote getting only 10% of the protein from organic animal souces, the rest from a plant-based diet. The founder of this is a vegan although she knew that "mainstream america" may not be able to handle that which is why her *plan* alllows for some animal protein.

By following Alissa's plan there is no reason why you would need to be concerned about the amount of calories you take in or the amount of protein ... imo :rolleyes:

When I was doing a green cleanse in November I was tracking my intake on fitday and I was getting 7-12% protein depending on the contents of my green smoothies (some greens are higher than others) ... and lots of fiber :p

JinxieKat
01-09-2007, 10:23 AM
Yes you definately want to learn more about protein! If you can get your hands on one or both of these books.. 'The China Study' or 'A Diet for a New America'.. While other books address the protein thing these two do it in the most detail that I've come across. Even if you are body building you don't need that much, and that is out of the mouth of Arnold Swartznager (? spelling) in 'A Diet for a New America'. Do some research and you'll be able to rethink that two cups of nuts!

Jinx

Sharon in Colorado
01-09-2007, 10:34 AM
ok, i don't wan't to eat that amount of nuts , but i need the protein from them.

Nuts are way more of a fat source than a protein source.

16 oz almonds 15% protein, 80% fat:

grams cals %total
Total: 2622
Fat: 230 2067 80%
Sat: 18 158 6%
Poly: 55 499 19%
Mono: 146 1313 51%
Carbs: 90 144 6%
Fiber: 54 0 0%
Protein: 96 386 15%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

1 bunch of spinach 64% protein, 18% fat:

grams cals %total
Total: 75
Fat: 1 11 18%
Sat: 0 2 3%
Poly: 0 4 7%
Mono: 0 0 1%
Carbs: 12 11 18%
Fiber: 9 0 0%
Protein: 10 39 64%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

1 small cantaloupe 10% protein, 7% fat:

grams cals %total
Total: 154
Fat: 1 11 7%
Sat: 0 3 2%
Poly: 0 4 3%
Mono: 0 0 0%
Carbs: 37 133 83%
Fiber: 4 0 0%
Protein: 4 16 10%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

The percentage of protein and fat will always be the same no matter the amount you eat as it is based on calorie percentage.

trinity082482
01-09-2007, 10:35 AM
Follow Alissa's plan


Where is it?

madmel
01-09-2007, 11:07 AM
Where is it?

In her book :D

But you will find lots of information on this site too.

cheers
madmel

Frecs
01-09-2007, 08:15 PM
thank you, but i just wanted to know if i count calories [ 1,500 ] and i don't go over it, will i gain because it is mostly fat? i only eat the nuts for protein, i would like to lose 2 1/2 lbs a week . i will also be burning 500 calories off a day wiht cardio exersize.oh and does anyone know any stores [ like whole foods ] that sell hemp protein powder?-that would be a great alternative to JUST nuts, my mom won't let me order any online :rolleyes:

It depends. I mean, really. Some will not lose if their fat intake is more than 20% of calories, others will. You will need to see how your body reacts. As a male exercising enough to burn 500 calories a day, you should be able to lose 2.5 pounds a week eating 1500 calories a day...or even 2000 calories a day. BUT, YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. If you want to speed up the weightloss, then reduce the fat to 10%. You don't need as much protein as you think you need and nuts are mostly fat. You are better off eating bananas, romaine lettuce, spinach, and broccoli if you are concerned about protein.

setsuyu
01-09-2007, 09:52 PM
It depends. I mean, really. Some will not lose if their fat intake is more than 20% of calories, others will. You will need to see how your body reacts. As a male exercising enough to burn 500 calories a day, you should be able to lose 2.5 pounds a week eating 1500 calories a day...or even 2000 calories a day. BUT, YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY. If you want to speed up the weightloss, then reduce the fat to 10%. You don't need as much protein as you think you need and nuts are mostly fat. You are better off eating bananas, romaine lettuce, spinach, and broccoli if you are concerned about protein.

Thank you!I got the information i needed. I think i will just have 1/4 cup of almonds a day, my calorie intake will be lowe but oh well faster weight loss i guess .

Moonstone
01-10-2007, 08:25 AM
Here is an article I found about almonds when I was looking up the nutritional value of nuts which you might find interesting.

http://www.jtcwd.com/vegie/nutrition/almond.html

**jessireebob**
01-10-2007, 11:55 AM
Here is an article I found about almonds when I was looking up the nutritional value of nuts which you might find interesting.

http://www.jtcwd.com/vegie/nutrition/almond.html

Whoops, thats not an article. It's a link to the nutritional info for almonds.

Missrawdiva
01-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I dont know about counting calories on raw.. but when I started on the raw diet I was eating ALOT of raw nuts in my deserts and meals. A guy on here who is an avid runner emailed me and asked me if I was happy with my body shape. He told me if I wanted to change my shape to stop eating so many nuts and eat more of the live green foods and fruit. Well, I did that and I was AMAZED at how my body looks much more different. Now I have nut meals once or twice a week.. not every day as I did in the beginning. Hope this helps!

mershwista
01-10-2007, 06:42 PM
Best advice I can offer is to listen to your body. it's a lot easier to do that when raw. Some people are designed to eat more fats than others.

Rawkinlocs
01-10-2007, 07:04 PM
Best advice I can offer is to listen to your body. it's a lot easier to do that when raw. Some people are designed to eat more fats than others.
AAAAAAAMEN!

In most instances, when you first go raw you want a lot of nuts to help feel more satiated and that's fine. You won't die from eating one too many nuts after coming off of a cooked food diet, esp. - but then later on, most people just sorta naturally begin to desire to eat less nuts. That's been my experience anyway...I used to practically live on cashews and almonds, trailmixes and nut-heavy desserts. Now, I rarely want them. Sometimes I do and when I do, I figure I need them and then when my body is done, I don't want anymore. Quite simple it is! But I guess when people are trying to lose weight then things may be different...then again, many have still lost without monitoring their nut intake...guess everyone is different and you have to just do what you feel you need to do to get your desired results and tweak when and where necessary.

Ariannah
01-11-2007, 05:34 AM
Best advice I can offer is to listen to your body. it's a lot easier to do that when raw. Some people are designed to eat more fats than others.

That cannot be repeated often enough! The body sends signals you can TRUST on 100% raw.

I could NEVER trust the assault of muddled signals on a cooked (even what i thought was 'healthy') diet!

Sometimes I feel more like eating nuts, avocadoes etc, and then many other days fruit and greens will satisfy me. And by "satisfy" me, I mean "it will feel so good the desire will be met".

On cooked, I lived an entire lifestyle of craving craving craving and unmet need. No wonder I was sluggish, unhealthy and lethargic.

Raw works!

Moonstone
01-11-2007, 11:12 AM
jessireebob, yes, a link, not an article :) I think now I truely must organize the million things I seem to have in my favorites listings.