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dreamrawalwz
12-08-2006, 09:42 PM
I posted this in my livejournal and I'd like to share for the support if you don't mind?

(in a venting tone and not directed at any person) Apparently I need to shut up, keep to myself, never offer or share nutritional information and data I have learned through my years of extensive resarch and library of books. I guess many don't want to hear waht they don't know? I don't know. I hear people getting defensive because it's something different from their ways of life or waht they currently know. Makes me want to give up. Makes me want to not major in my passion and live a life and job I don't want to do. Is that **** pices of paper saying I graduated so important? Why won't people pay attention to anyone that may know just as much information, maybe even more in some instances, than someone with the degree? I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just be open to more information that you've been brought up with and told through the media and government. I know each person has a differnet diet. I also know that everyone needs to read all the information available. ::sigh:: I don't know. I hate when I some how make people feel bad. Apparently I've done that a lot and have lost at least one friend. I don't mean to. I just learn things that make SO much sense, go against the norms, newest findings in nutrition, ect. and I want to shout it off the rooftop and share with the world. I want to help heal people through their food choices. Almost all diseases and illness are from improper food choices. I just wish people knew that and saw it. Open their eyes up to the big picture of waht's really going on. I don't know. Should I just stop with my passion and deny myself this? I get so upset and distraught over it. I feel I need to punish myself for making others feel bad. I'm sorry that's how you feel, but that's just it...it's your choice to feel that way, it wasn't my intent, it was just perceived as such. I don't know what else to say. I want to just scream and pull my hair out. I just wish people made the connection...::tears:: I don't think I can have all this knowledge without sharing it with those I love and care about. I try to spread the word out of love and concern so they can heal if need be or just have a happier and healthier life...

Was that too harsh do you think? Any advice or feedback would be appreciated.

luckitri
12-08-2006, 09:55 PM
Yeah, its alright. Every time you vent it seems that a wonderful thread grows with lots of good information. The people I really admire are the ones who followed their path regardless of what others thought. They somehow shrugged off the criticism. IMHO - a real friend cannot be lost.

KindnessToAllCreatures
12-08-2006, 09:59 PM
I think people are more receptive to new knowledge when they ask for information rather than have it imposed on them.

True love for others implies unconditional acceptance of them, regardless if they "see things our way" or not.

Be as happy and healthy as you can. Some will be genuinely open to how you got to that point. There will also be naysayers. If you get caught up in the latter, trying to change people not open to change, you are only hurting yourself. Try to keep loving them, without judging them, anyways. That is the most important thing.

Wishing you much health and happiness!

With Much Love.

Rawkinlocs
12-08-2006, 10:11 PM
Dream,

I know your pain and frustration all too well. It's hard to watch people suffer needlessly and then when you offer information, they can't or don't want to receive it. But that is why it's best to just be an example.

People have learned to trust what those with the degree say above and beyond anything else someone such as yourself...with TONS of knowledge and information. Everytime my mother calls me to tell me my grandmother is in the hospital (AGAIN) or my aunt had to have her foot removed due to diabetes (the same aunt who told me that the raw diet sounds too hard to do after I sent her the book Dying to Get Well) and that my little brother who is only 13 now weighs 185 lbs. - I feel helpless. ALL I can do is pray for them because I've talked, they all know what they need to do, but they (as most other people) are just not ready to make a committment to making lifestyle changes.

But you are still young, perhaps you can just focus and set a goal to GET those "papers" and that title...unfortunately sometimes that's what it takes to get through to some people. Otherwise, all you can do is keep living this lifestyle and even if the ones you TRULY want to reach won't accept the gift that you have to offer, believe and know that there ARE others out there who need it, who will accept it and who will appreciate you for it. Don't give up on learning and sharing knowledge with others...be there for those who someday will come to you with listening ears and a willing heart to put your advice to use.

James Smith
12-08-2006, 10:20 PM
What Kindness said.

Sometimes caring gets in the way of love, as paradoxical as that sounds. If you care about someone's health, you want them to be healthy, and you want them to make the right choices. If you love, you accept all as is.

Caring sounds nice. But in the end, all things come to an end. So what was all that caring for? Love can be scary. After all, what if things don't work out? But it is extremely fulfilling.

There are ways to get it. Just don't force it on yourself. Observe yourself and others. As an experiment, try to relate differently and see what happens. If it's good, go with it and build on it; if not, try something else.

dreamrawalwz
12-08-2006, 10:37 PM
Thank you all. I'ts got me thinking. I need to take a step back. I need to focus on myself. I need to focus on MY healing mentally, emotionall, and physically. I can't expend all this energy on others, especially if they start to argue with me, become defensive, or tell me I'm wrong. I just can't do that anymore. The other thing I can't do though is..keep it all in. I feel like every new piece of information I have fills up the barral. Pretty soon that barral will explode. I don't know how to stop that feeling. I want to share it, but I don't know of any way to do that without others getting annoyed at me.

I do accept my parent's way of eating, mostly, BUT since they're older than most parents of other people my age I get scared. I'm afraid they'll die while I'm young. I just want them to live as best as they can. I see my mom with fibromyalgia and allergies...I want her to not be in pain. I see my dad with high blood pressure, slight apnea, bloating, ect. I know these aren't major ailments, but I'm afraid osmething bad will happen. Yes, I love them and I want to keep them around as long as possible. This may not have anything to do with wahht I posted, but in my mind it does in a way.

luckitri
12-08-2006, 10:44 PM
Yes it is related. I wish for my son to avoid my health problems and eat more raw. He suffers from having two old sick parents and no other family except for some far away relatives that communicate sporadically at best. I wish to provide support for him for this also.

Rawkinlocs
12-08-2006, 10:47 PM
...you can write your fanny off - a book about your journey to health and include the knowledge you hold inside, articles, research papers, etc. Also, maybe do some volunteer work in the area of counseling (maybe use a different wordage since some people equate being a counsellor with having "those" papers) people on health and nutrition. Offer speaking engagements at local area churches, community centers or youth homes. Just some ideas.

Sunshine9
12-08-2006, 10:47 PM
I feel your pain too my dear :) Every time I drive my father to the hospital for another avoidable surgery, watch my mother stay up all night, watch my sister have colds and flus and allergies... watch healthy people suffer because that is how they choose to live life.

I have come to a place though, where I share my knowledge, and am open and accepting. Love is more powerful than all the raw food in the world, and they are my family and I love them. I knew about raw for 3 years before I tried it, because it took me that long to be ready. I know they have to follow their path and what they are ready for.

and I think your point about healing yourself is right on. that's what i'm doing to. As they say, "If you want to heal the environment, you must first heal the environmentalist."

DavidZaneMason
12-09-2006, 07:52 AM
Yes. I hear you. Your issues are ones we all have felt / do feel (though we cannot know exactly how YOU feel of course).

-There are a million things you CAN do....a million ways YOU can be a good example. The above posts are wonderful. When people see you upset or frustrated....what kind of advertisement is that for eating healthy? For better or worse, people judge us by our attitudes FAR more than what we know.

-If I stuck you in a job as a Nuclear Physicist....after 6 months or a year...you WOULD learn how to do your job.....so knowledge is never the issue. MOTIVATION and ATTITUDE are. And the good news is that YOU have control over these things in your own life.

-Having deep-seated issues (fears) about the loss of loved ones.....and a history of loss / fear in our own lives can often make us want to project lifestyles onto others that they are not ready for. Each person has their own Karma / Path.

-What would happen to all upset in a person's life if they cultivated an attitude of radical and motivated ACCEPTANCE? If you were truly OK with others....and the world.....YOU would become the ONE thing that the world needs to be truly peaceful......a truly peaceful individual.

-Thank you for your venting and your sensitivity. What do you think?

-David Z. Mason

J Raw
12-09-2006, 11:43 AM
Ya, everyone pretty much covered what I was going to say. I think I have a tendency to do the same thing and have to work on keeping it in check.

Don't offer information unless asked. It may be hard at first to keep quiet when you have some great information for someone pertaining to a health issue they may have. But unfortunately, most aren't ready to hear it. They're still medical model minded and would rather take a pill than take responsibility for their health. Everyone is at different points on their own life journey and we need to practice acceptance.

All you need to do is lead by example.When people see you looking great and free of health problems, they will start to ask you things. And when they do, you will find offering information to these people so much more rewarding and uplifting rather than frustrating. Love and light.

rawpriestess
12-09-2006, 12:03 PM
have you thought of taking your own advice?

I mean about "I'm sorry that's how you feel, but that's just it...it's your choice to feel that way, it wasn't my intent, it was just perceived as such."

I mean this is what you posted, and yet, you are allowing something someone said or didn't say to you, cause you all this grief? all these tears, all this anger?

for what purpose, all this anger is because you have fear, fear about what? that someone won't listen to you? doesn't respect you? and why is that? why aren't they listening to you? are you coming across with love in your heart?

or are you coming across as a "you should" do this and such?

if you are, then you are lecturing them, and they won't like it or even listen.

would YOU have listened to someone talking to YOU like that? I certainly wouldn't!

so, if you truly wish to help people, than lead by example, eat raw foods, and when people see you being healthy and happy and joy filled, they will ask you what you are doing, and you can respond, I live a healthy life, by eating what nature has provided to us, then if they want more info, you can tell them you eat alot of fresh fruits and vegetables, and if they want more, you can say more,

all change comes about in the perfect time, no thing can be pushed into people's hearts, it can be pushed into their lives, but they will resist, it is human nature.

so, live by example, and live a healthy life and mostly live in joy and harmony with others, if you truly wish to help, and remove the fear of whatever, because you can only live YOUR life, and you can only live it TODAY

trinity082482
12-09-2006, 12:29 PM
I think people rather follow text book material than listen to someone with real experience because they think that if its in a medical book or any book then it must be fact. I am the type of person who usually does things based on personal experience. I dont always believe everything I read because I have experienced negative results from doctors and text books. I like to listen to people who know holistics (not necessarly major with a holistic degree) and someone who has helped people in the past and I like to talk to those people to see if something is right for me. Venting feels good. :D

luckitri
12-09-2006, 01:10 PM
Personal testimony is what motivates me. Just got to find out where that testimony is welcome and can make a difference.

Sharon in Colorado
12-09-2006, 01:37 PM
No offense here, but your age probably has something to do with it. The older I get the less I feel like I need to shout from the rooftops, and the more I would just rather lead by example.

I see this wisdom in postings like Revvell, Raw Priestess, Sport, Cinnamon, RowanC, etc. all these wonderfully wise Senioritas!

I think after you mature a bit, you do see that we are all so different, we all think our way is best, some people are always going to want to do meds and surgery over lifestyle and dietary change, and that is just how it is going to be. Also some people make the change by seeing an example more than being "taught". Just keep doing what you are doing, after all, you just got back to raw, and show the world how wonderful you are by your example.

JGex
12-09-2006, 02:26 PM
Thank you all. I'ts got me thinking. I need to take a step back. I need to focus on myself. I need to focus on MY healing mentally, emotionall, and physically. I can't expend all this energy on others, especially if they start to argue with me, become defensive, or tell me I'm wrong. I just can't do that anymore. The other thing I can't do though is..keep it all in. I feel like every new piece of information I have fills up the barral. Pretty soon that barral will explode. I don't know how to stop that feeling. I want to share it, but I don't know of any way to do that without others getting annoyed at me.


You already know your answers. Write and keep a journal.... pour your feelings out there.

You can't make anyone change their lifestyle; they have to want it for themselves. You can lead by example, and possibly even interest them with dishes you make, but they have to want it. They have to be willing to open up their mind to something other than the ways they have known all their lives.

I'm dealing with a similar situation... MIL told us this morning she may have to have a section of her intestines removed. They's already removed part of her esophagus and stomach. Every time she has a little ache, it's off to the country doctor for a new pill to mask her symptoms.

One of the things about parents is that they almost never will stop being parents - meaning that they think they are supposed to know more than their children.

*sigh*

dreamrawalwz
12-09-2006, 06:39 PM
You guys rawk. I really appreciate your insight. I'm going to write it out instead of talk to others that aren't raw. I don't think I'm pushing it on them at all, but they may take it as such. I'll just keep the information to myself and wait for them to come to ME.

J Raw
12-10-2006, 09:48 PM
:) Nice! Good for you! I'm proud of you and I don't even know you!

lissomllama
12-11-2006, 01:27 AM
*hugs* this too shall pass, believe me.

It's good that you vented, now imagine gathering all that negative energy together and sending it down into the earth to be neutralized and then allow it to be set free as neutral energy to become whatever it may. Doing this excercise always makes me feel better and is a very responsible way of venting and creating beauty and positive energy instead.

I hope you feel better soon. Bless you. :)